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  • cratlochcratloch Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Picard The Best Star Fleet Captian Ever

    I AM THE BEST CAPTIAN EVER! And I don't even know what a Captian is. I can't bother to go back all 4 pages to see if this has already been torn apart.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2012
    Picard, because Patric Stewart is from the same town as me:D
    But in terms of real captain, Sisko all the way.
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  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to end this thread right now with the real true answer.


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    :D
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to end this thread right now with the real true answer.


    PETER Q. TAGGART

    "Never give up! Never surrender!"

    :D

    Time to watch Galaxy Quest again! woohoo
  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    nynik wrote: »
    Time to watch Galaxy Quest again! woohoo

    I just watched it the other day. I was bored so turned on the TV. One of the premium channels was showing Rise of the Planet of the Apes but I came in the middle. So went to the OnDemand channel to queue it up from the beginning. As I was scrolling to the R's, the channel had Galaxy Quest as well. I thought I have seen Rise a few times since the last time I watched Galaxy Quest so queued that up instead. Good times. I still LOL'ed at parts. :D
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  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    As far as Kirk is concerned there are reasons why most aliens in star trek are humanoid.
  • bwhortonbwhorton Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    James T Kirk hands down....Will admit though im playing as Janeway in this game..being from Louisiana my ship is the USS Baton Rouge though im considering using Voyager as my ships name after i make admiral im at level 39 captain now...
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Another thing to consider is...

    When, Sarek, mind, melded, with, Kirk, Kirk. hijacked, the, Enterprise, wasted, an, entire, crew, of, Klingons, stole, their ship, and, brought, Spock, back, from, the, DEAD!. When Sarek mind melded with Picard, Picard cried a lot!.
  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Ugh, Captain Incompetent T. Playboy - I mean Kirk, you can tell everyone in the sixties was high when you watch TOS.

    Sisko's the best Captain imo, Kirk shouldn't have even got into the Academy. :P
  • darthstormstrikedarthstormstrike Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    robdmc wrote: »
    Another thing to consider is...

    When, Sarek, mind, melded, with, Kirk, Kirk. hijacked, the, Enterprise, wasted, an, entire, crew, of, Klingons, stole, their ship, and, brought, Spock, back, from, the, DEAD!. When Sarek mind melded with Picard, Picard cried a lot!.

    LOL.

    However Sarek was full of win. He knows who to go to when he wants stuff blown up and who to go to when he needs to not cry.
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  • retunred4goodretunred4good Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The age old argument "Is Kirk the better captain, or is it Picard?" can be summed up in 6 words.... and one letter....

    Sisko Punched Q In The Face.

    Wouldn't that be 5 words and one letter?
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Wouldn't that be 5 words and one letter?

    Guess technically the Q is both a word and a Letter in this context.
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Guess technically the Q is both a word and a Letter in this context.

    Thats what I was thinking since it doesn't count as a proper name.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I go Kirk. partially from my youth (grew up on ToS reruns & TMP era...)

    Now, onto some specifics. Kirk was briefed by his crew, and would typically run defiant to their wishes as he saved the day "Don't quote me the odds" "You're a bricklayer", etc. Picard held meetings to come up with a community solution that everyone would like and feel a part of...

    Kirk was destined to do all the stuff he did on his own. Sisko's destiny was written and aided by the prophets.

    Side note: on the subject of ships "blown up" on a captain's watch, so far Picard (definite) and Sisko (maybe) are the only ones who had a ship blown up "underneath" them...

    Kirk sacrificed the beat-up and due for decommissioning 1701-refit, Scotty could have gotten it working if he had time. That, and his sacrifice led to the capture of the BoP. BoP crash landed but could have been salvaged/restored to duty (it was in one piece IIRC) if UFP and KDF were on friendlier terms. Even then, some sources had Kirk's BoP as the reason the UFP learned much about Klingon shipbuilding... Picard was not on 1701-D when it went up, Riker and Troi lost that one. Picard is only on the hook for Stargazer. Didn't follow latter parts of DS9, so not sure how/if Sisko was involved in destruction of Defiant...

    So ships lost count: Kirk - 0. Picard - 1. Sisko - 1? Janeway - 0 (though >50% crew lost). Archer - 0.

    Kirk fathered children. Janeway adopted... :P That, and Kirk's "failed" prime directive encounters always turned out favorably for the Federation, Janeway's got half a quadrant mad at the UFP.

    Archer was the "closest" to Kirk, both in mission and somewhat spirit. As the "modern" era Kirk, he draws second place on the "best captain ever" list, only because he's "too inspired" by Kirk... :P
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    My choice: Archer. He had flaws, but he battled through them and helped create the Federation. Picard was just a simple "perfect person".

    bwhorton wrote: »
    im considering using Voyager as my ships name after i make admiral

    You can't use "Voyager" as a ship name. It's restricted. :(
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  • gamegirlblue23gamegirlblue23 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Im going with Janeway because the Voyager series was always my favorite and I dont think Kirk's and Picard's crew was left stranded on a planet and survived, or got teleported into the Delta Quadrent, or libearated a Borg into their ship. There's many more reasons, but I'm not going to list them all.
  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Im going with Janeway because the Voyager series was always my favorite and I dont think Kirk's and Picard's crew was left stranded on a planet and survived, or got teleported into the Delta Quadrent, or libearated a Borg into their ship. There's many more reasons, but I'm not going to list them all.

    Picard was assimilated. Kirk was a captain at a time when the nearest starfleet vessel was brobably months away, and argued with god. Altho admiral janeway was a badass.
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  • godemperorphooeygodemperorphooey Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Kirk by himself isn't that great of a Captain, it's only as part of the Holy Triumvirate of Kirk, Spock, and Bones that he's the best Captain. Picard is only an OK Captain, he's too much of a European Captain, the best Captains are cowboy Kirk and The Sisko; if Janeway's megalomaniacal plans of galactic domination had ever played out, then I guess she'd be the best Captain by default, so it's a good thing Harry Kim was there to sabotage her. Archer, we don't talk about Archer... I think Porthos would've been a better Captain.
  • rheatitanrheatitan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    he's too much of a European Captain, .

    what do you mean by that?
  • godemperorphooeygodemperorphooey Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Picard seemed to embody more European socio-cultural values, he seemed very much in the mold of a European diplomat/statesman with a somewhat aristocratic bent, a strict adherence to protocol and rules, and an emotional detachment from his crew, and had a very "above the fray" sort of attitude. Whereas Kirk was very much the cowboy diplomat/leader type, a John F. Kennedy in space, not afraid to use his fists or a karate chop to solve a problem if need be, he gets in there and gets his hands dirty, he's down in the trenches with his crew, and will throw out rules and regulations if they get in the way of doing what's right or necessary; that's very American.
  • gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Sisko

    he fought non-linear omnipotent aliens that where possessing his arch nemesis in a cave of fire then became one of these non-linear omnipotent aliens
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  • rheatitanrheatitan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Picard seemed to embody more European socio-cultural values, he seemed very much in the mold of a European diplomat/statesman with a somewhat aristocratic bent, a strict adherence to protocol and rules, and an emotional detachment from his crew, and had a very "above the fray" sort of attitude. Whereas Kirk was very much the cowboy diplomat/leader type, a John F. Kennedy in space, not afraid to use his fists or a karate chop to solve a problem if need be, he gets in there and gets his hands dirty, he's down in the trenches with his crew, and will throw out rules and regulations if they get in the way of doing what's right or necessary; that's very American.

    Ah I see what you mean. I disagree though he was very close to crusher & troi and a mentor to data plus he mellowed out enough to play poker with the crew by the end of the series. He wasn't the young, dashing, life loving character that kirk was, that was left to Riker. Picard is the most realistic captain in star trek.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Rachel Garrett! she embodied what Starfleet stands for in a way we don't always see in Star Trek.
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Rachel Garrett! she embodied what Starfleet stands for in a way we don't always see in Star Trek.


    Ahhh garett. We often forget about her but yes standing in the face of overwhelming odds to defend the defenceless without the hope of a hail mary, these are qualities rarely seen.
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