I see a Klink, something I couldn't identify but it was Fed an Escort and an oddy.
I type, '10% rule?'
The Escort says, 'F That' :eek:
I think 'Oh Goody'
We fly off and start shooting things.
The escort and oddy have technicolor rainbow beams, the klink has skittles.
I think 'Oh Goody'
The klink dies.
We all fly to the left, three ships are working on one node, I go to the other side of the gen and start working on one node and the klink goes to the gate and starts shooting away.
I think 'Oh Goody'
Pretty quick we are overwelmed by spheres.
I say, 'If you guys can keep the spheres away from the Gen I'll kill it.'
The Escort says 'F That'
I think 'Oh Goody'
I finally catch a break with the help of the ship I didn't identify and get the gen killed and we start working harder on the spheres.
20 minutes later, side two the same thing.
The Klink is still shooting the gate and by now he's died so many times he may as well not be in the game.
About two forevers go by and we finally kill the side 2 Gen.
Now the Cube has come into play.
It's getting agro from the Klink and he pulls it around into the gate.
I focused on the Cube, everyone else was shooting Gate and dying left and right.
I died a couple times too. (Darn It)
The Cube dies and when it went it took a good chunk out of the Gate so the rest was failrly easy.
The Klink then pipes up, 'if you noobes would have helped me kill the gate at the start this wouldn't have happened.'
I'm like, 'Hu?'
I said, 'Have you ever played ISE before or won an ISE optional?'
He said, 'He's been playing ISE for weeks and never won the optional because of noobes like you.'
I said, 'Ok, You're not going to win the next one either.'
I see a Klink, something I couldn't identify but it was Fed an Escort and an oddy.
I type, '10% rule?'
The Escort says, 'F That'
I think 'Oh Goody'
We fly off and start shooting things.
The escort and oddy have technicolor rainbow beams, the klink has skittles.
I think 'Oh Goody'
The klink dies.
We all fly to the left, three ships are working on one node, I go to the other side of the gen and start working on one node and the klink goes to the gate and starts shooting away.
I think 'Oh Goody'
Pretty quick we are overwelmed by spheres.
I say, 'If you guys can keep the spheres away from the Gen I'll kill it.'
The Escort says 'F That'
I think 'Oh Goody'
I finally catch a break with the help of the ship I didn't identify and get the gen killed and we start working harder on the spheres.
20 minutes later, side two the same thing.
The Klink is still shooting the gate and by now he's died so many times he may as well not be in the game.
About two forevers go by and we finally kill the side 2 Gen.
Now the Cube has come into play.
It's getting agro from the Klink and he pulls it around into the gate.
I focused on the Cube, everyone else was shooting Gate and dying left and right.
I died a couple times too. (Darn It)
The Cube dies and when it went it took a good chunk out of the Gate so the rest was failrly easy.
The Klink then pipes up, 'if you noobes would have helped me kill the gate at the start this wouldn't have happened.'
I'm like, 'Hu?'
I said, 'Have you ever played ISE before or won an ISE optional?'
He said, 'He's been playing ISE for weeks and never won the optional because of noobes like you.'
I said, 'Ok, You're not going to win the next one either.'
I gathered my goodies and left.
Hilarious dude :rolleyes:
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It wasn't the worst nor the weird neither. But I think it needs telling you.
KAGE. 3 people said Hi. 2 said nothing. After the secong mob, I realized one of them don't communicate in chat room. And he dies always. I mean when we are fighting ridiculous borg, he's the only one to die. We go to the first room. He stayed in the back and we 4 we fought we the mob. The second room. He came in and died. We deal with the mob without he. Step by step it was the same. He dies and we do the job. Finally we went to the last big room wth those 6 shield. We make clean the place. For B3, he died. For A3, B2,A2. At A2, I helped him to revive. While I helped he, Some borgs shoot me and I died when he revive and he let me there. He escaped to B1 and die to B1. I respawn and I said. Don't you know teamwork? Teammate helped you so you should help teammate. He answered me that he needs accolade. I said It's not a reason. He went into the tunnel and die. And he respawn... At the begining of the map. He asked us to help him to come to the last room. Someone said "No! Lets go!". Nobody said something. We kill the boss and his friends. We got our goodies and we let the guy trying to go to the room. I think he didn't get accolade nor goodies neither.
It wasn't the worst nor the weird neither. But I think it needs telling you.
KAGE. 3 people said Hi. 2 said nothing. After the secong mob, I realized one of them don't communicate in chat room. And he dies always. I mean when we are fighting ridiculous borg, he's the only one to die. We go to the first room. He stayed in the back and we 4 we fought we the mob. The second room. He came in and died. We deal with the mob without he. Step by step it was the same. He dies and we do the job. Finally we went to the last big room wth those 6 shield. We make clean the place. For B3, he died. For A3, B2,A2. At A2, I helped him to revive. While I helped he, Some borgs shoot me and I died when he revive and he let me there. He escaped to B1 and die to B1. I respawn and I said. Don't you know teamwork? Teammate helped you so you should help teammate. He answered me that he needs accolade. I said It's not a reason. He went into the tunnel and die. And he respawn... At the begining of the map. He asked us to help him to come to the last room. Someone said "No! Lets go!". Nobody said something. We kill the boss and his friends. We got our goodies and we let the guy trying to go to the room. I think he didn't get accolade nor goodies neither.
Truly, a case of "Accolade Fixtation". Idk but going to KAGE for an accolade is a bit silly for a newer player. A normal is easily manageable for someone new to ground STFs and still gives the same accolade.
Bonus points for trying to coach him though
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now this is not the worst, but I found it rather strange (might be troll?).
ISE as usual, double loot wednesday, so usually there are more people. join in, say the usual hi, got 3 responses, which I take as a good sign (not all answer, while know the tactics, so I dont mind them). we finish the cube and spheres really quickly, move on to the left. one guy (who said hi, so I had high hopes about him ) goes right for a generator, and blows it by the time we finish the cube. I say, why would he do that (btw he was the classic case of defiant rainbow beamboat), he did not understand what I was talking about. now some spheres coming in, we kill the gens, I hold the spheres back with grav pulse and grav well. however I saw something strange, one sphere was going the other way. since there were a lot of them, I took that as I was mistaken, and destroyed the rest.
we go right and find one generator already popped. who was it? I have no idea. not our rainbow defiant hero, for sure. however he did continue, and go for the generator ignoring the cube. now the optional still was in the air, however with a group, that does not even know the basic 10% tactic (I do not even think there is a better one, not for pugs anyway), I could not ask to save the optional, because it would have required to not kill one generator, which was obviously an issue in their heads.
when we finally cleared the nanites, one guy was off in the distance fighting his sphere, while we tried to destroy the transformer. oviously we lacked dps, since the one ody in the distance did not help, neither did the beam defiant, and I had to concentrate on the nanites, and had to wait for the time when I can pop my gravity well in a place, where the cube wont be aggro'ed.
my precautions were stupid, since the first thing the ody did, when he gloriously defeated his sphere was to attack the tac cube, and our beam defiant hero went to help him, and when they were failing they obviously pulled the damned thing towards us. so I popped evasive and went in a way where I can still shoot at the gate, while the cube was shooting my shields down, so the gate could pick my 5% shield, and kill me with a 40k shot (and this happened to everyone). going back, our heroes go for the cube, fortunately it is behind the gate, so we can pick the gate apart, and then move to the cube, which was easy ofc.
now we did finish this in reasonable time, but what I still dont understand is the rainbow defiant. he was a 400 day veteran, and was still flying a beam escort, knows nothing about elites, and comes obviously for the double loot... was he trolling, or there are people, who still do not understand the game after a year?
Right, so looking this over I feel I need to put in my own two pence.
Now I'm an engineer, but NOT a tanking engineer. My Excelsior is designed to be a combat/support ship. I normally play with a tank in an Odyssey. Anywho, I like to torture myself and do PuG Elite STFs on occasion (greedy for chips and such.)
Now I need to explain this ship a bit more thoroughly before I get into this silly little tris. My ship is capable of dumping an incredible amount of firepower for an engineer, combined with manuverability I carved out a little niche in my fleet as the mid field player who can dart in and fill gaps with lotsa pretty crimson bolts of death. Mind you, I have absolutely no threat control, so any and all aggro I pull is because of the damage I'm dealing.
Now for the story.
So I jump into an Elite Khitomer and looking at the team, I'm the only engineer; everyone else is a tactical officer. Not a problem, I believe, they can/should be able to kill anything that looks at them sideways. Cool.
So after the first cube gets waxed I pull off, going my normal route to kill probes on one of the sides while the others kill the generators, transformers and such, and I will aide on my side when I can. Typical, normal everyday manuvers I've been doing since I joined my fleet.
Now, I'm already sitting in the probe lane, killing leisurely, when one of the players shows up, also in an Excelsior, his borg junk hanging all over, and starts attacking my probes. Me, I get a little annoyed, seeing as I figured being in one spot for over 3 minutes is long enough for people to establish that I'm doing something. This guy didn't believe so. So, I stop firing, turn, and attack the generators next to me, assuming since he jumped my spot he can handle it. Nope.
As I'm shooting up the generators, cube, then transformer I'm watching him as well, and seeing he's broadsiding the probes, and getting forced back further and further towards the gate the probes want to go through. When the transformer blows, I dart across infront of the destroyable gate, and kill a probe, thinking it might give him some breathing room to collect himself. Wrong again.
I start on the otherside of the gate, blow up the generators and such, and see his backs against the wall, and two probes make it past him. So I paddle over to him, destroy the four probes bearing down on him, then turn around and sit infront of the gate again.
This guy starts darting all over for a while, then settles down, seeing I haven't moved and am killing without an issue. So he sits above and behind me, shooting at my targets...again.
The gates are destroyed without any more issues and now it's time for Donatara...
Now I must reiterate that I'm an engineer, and not a tanking one. No threat control, just firepower, so I can only aggro through shooting something.
Now, Donatara shows up and immediately blows up one of the tac officers. I'm shooting at her by now and it was almost like she noticed me and went: YOU.
She proceeds to chase me around the map as I shoot back, vainly trying to get out of her sights. The other four are shooting on her, but for the life of them cannot pull aggro. So she blows me up and turns on the others.
This goes on for about 20 minutes. She pops one of them while I'm dead, then instantly turns on me, over and over. I stopped firing at her and just watched the dps they were doing out of curiosity. They were averaging 3-600 dps. My shots were doing 6-1200dps.
We finally managed to kill her after I figured out how to work my engines and get behind her. (BTW she has an incredible turn rate!)
I was extremely impressed with my ship, but also found it laughable that ONE engineer could do more damage than FOUR tac officers combined.
The only thing between you and the vacuum of space is six feet of solid style...
This is not so my worst experience but terriblely bad one,
Now from what I have read here time and time again pugging can get bad at times, sometimes u can pug a fantastic group (only had this once). So I now only to run elite stfs with my fleet unless I am bored then I'll pug it.... Btw I'm a tac in a retro defiant
Anywho I group up with a fleet mate and we que for infected elite space,
As we enter I shout out 'do we all know the 10% rule'
Only get one reply, ' yer no noobs here' . So I think ok we shall see, we take the cube and 2 spheres out in the blink of an eye and then proceed to the left side to work on the cube and genes, as we get them down the 10% my fleet mate states that he is ready and waiting and then we blow them.
While working on the first transformer this one guy 'Klingon I may add' starts using his mouth as a weapon, she shouts the following ' RAGE' followed by 'I want Spock dead..... Nowww'
By this time we had the transformer down and just clearing the spheres and he and someone else darts off the the right side and blows one of the genes, both me and my fleet mate in teamspeak are calling this guy a noob, but while he flys in a circle the cube on the left notices he shiny hull and goes : you , die now... And so this guy insta dies.
The 3 of us clearing the spheres manage to stop the nanites heading to the right, my fleet mate goes ahead with more dps then me to blow the rest of the genes then take the cube, I can handle the nanites, so I proceed to blow one at a time while using my slowly abilities that I have, so I'm dumping tractor beam when I need to and using my graviton pulse gene to slow the group the transformer goes bang, Im thinking thank god that's over.
So my surprise loud mouth comes back with 'anger' 'rage' 'smashes fist into keyboard' and he continues this until the fight is over, we just get optional with 3 seconds spare and the loud mouth goes on a rant again calling us all noobs we sould have done it his way I politely tell him to shut up collect my gear and pick the optional up, mr loud mouth comes in with I done all the work I want all the gear.. We all place in capital letters ROFPMSL, he then replays 'I hate you all' and we leave him be,
After looking back on who got what I realised this guy didn't get anything from the optional and me and my fleet mate laugh about it..
Right, so looking this over I feel I need to put in my own two pence.
Now I'm an engineer, but NOT a tanking engineer. My Excelsior is designed to be a combat/support ship. I normally play with a tank in an Odyssey. Anywho, I like to torture myself and do PuG Elite STFs on occasion (greedy for chips and such.)
Now I need to explain this ship a bit more thoroughly before I get into this silly little tris. My ship is capable of dumping an incredible amount of firepower for an engineer, combined with manuverability I carved out a little niche in my fleet as the mid field player who can dart in and fill gaps with lotsa pretty crimson bolts of death. Mind you, I have absolutely no threat control, so any and all aggro I pull is because of the damage I'm dealing.
Now for the story.
So I jump into an Elite Khitomer and looking at the team, I'm the only engineer; everyone else is a tactical officer. Not a problem, I believe, they can/should be able to kill anything that looks at them sideways. Cool.
So after the first cube gets waxed I pull off, going my normal route to kill probes on one of the sides while the others kill the generators, transformers and such, and I will aide on my side when I can. Typical, normal everyday manuvers I've been doing since I joined my fleet.
Now, I'm already sitting in the probe lane, killing leisurely, when one of the players shows up, also in an Excelsior, his borg junk hanging all over, and starts attacking my probes. Me, I get a little annoyed, seeing as I figured being in one spot for over 3 minutes is long enough for people to establish that I'm doing something. This guy didn't believe so. So, I stop firing, turn, and attack the generators next to me, assuming since he jumped my spot he can handle it. Nope.
As I'm shooting up the generators, cube, then transformer I'm watching him as well, and seeing he's broadsiding the probes, and getting forced back further and further towards the gate the probes want to go through. When the transformer blows, I dart across infront of the destroyable gate, and kill a probe, thinking it might give him some breathing room to collect himself. Wrong again.
I start on the otherside of the gate, blow up the generators and such, and see his backs against the wall, and two probes make it past him. So I paddle over to him, destroy the four probes bearing down on him, then turn around and sit infront of the gate again.
This guy starts darting all over for a while, then settles down, seeing I haven't moved and am killing without an issue. So he sits above and behind me, shooting at my targets...again.
The gates are destroyed without any more issues and now it's time for Donatara...
Now I must reiterate that I'm an engineer, and not a tanking one. No threat control, just firepower, so I can only aggro through shooting something.
Now, Donatara shows up and immediately blows up one of the tac officers. I'm shooting at her by now and it was almost like she noticed me and went: YOU.
She proceeds to chase me around the map as I shoot back, vainly trying to get out of her sights. The other four are shooting on her, but for the life of them cannot pull aggro. So she blows me up and turns on the others.
This goes on for about 20 minutes. She pops one of them while I'm dead, then instantly turns on me, over and over. I stopped firing at her and just watched the dps they were doing out of curiosity. They were averaging 3-600 dps. My shots were doing 6-1200dps.
We finally managed to kill her after I figured out how to work my engines and get behind her. (BTW she has an incredible turn rate!)
I was extremely impressed with my ship, but also found it laughable that ONE engineer could do more damage than FOUR tac officers combined.
An incredible tale. Who said the Excelsior is "aging" lol!
I get similar attention in my Tactical Odyssey Prototype. It's just the "low DPS useless 2 console" Prototype but each phaser DBB BO3 does over 12k damage. Couple that with Sensor scan, Attack Pattern Beta and a following salvo of quantum torpedoes makes for impressive burst damage which means this poor prototype always gets the lion's share of aggro even with zero threat control.
Donatra would just chase me round and round while the "Elite" pugs wouldn't even dent her rear shield!
The only thing that kind of works in that scenario is get someone to eject warp plasma and gravwell all over her and just wear her shields down gradually by attrition while the Scimitar is stationary. Careful she can still spin around like a fleet escort while locked down.
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what is the fascination with popping the first generator in infected as quickly as possible?
I see that, and then the Starfleet tactical cruiser guy and his friend (sometimes, but not always another tactical cruiser) go off on their own to try to kill nanites after popping the closest generator, ignoring the 3 other generators, sometimes not even contributing to the transformer... or, more recently, I see tactical cruiser guy hotel alpha to 10km stand off range of the generators on the opposite side of the transformer from the gateway so that the Borg adds don't aggro on them. instead, the escorts and bops in the group get to tank the new Borg because some cruiser captains don't want to get their hull dirty.
killing an unshielded generator doesn't prove how great your build is! killing nanites & not helping to take down structures doesn't prove anything about your abilities either. if you pop the generator early, you should help clean the mess, not park far away to pick off lone nanite probes.
I HATE double EDC days. It brings out the worst players into the Elite rounds. Just TRIED to run IGE (only tech I still need), group was going fine, had like 2 minutes left on the optional and started the last room. They bum rush it and get killed.
Then becky's room. I should have known it was going to be bad when they started spawning pets to agro the room. First run my system locked but I managed to get back, and luckily STO was running and I could start up where I was. Well I look and they are to the 4th corner, I'm thinking well done. Look to my side and the first corner has reset and the borg are respawning. So not sure what happened.
I do the jumping with 2 others for the second round. Things are going well, little timing issue on corner 3, but got past it. Get to corner 4, one of the 2 not jumping falls in the plasma for some reason. 3 of us clear the 4th corner of the borg, and then one guy leaves the corner with out hitting the console and starts trying to resurrect the one in the plasma instead of hitting the console so we could keep moving. Then basically ignores what the mission is and starts shooting borg. Well needless to say corner 1 has reset. Then he just randomly starts shooting borg. Does not respawn with the rest of us to start over, then bails out of the mission.
So that left 4 of us, oops now 3 because he bailed someone else did. Then another leaving 2 of us.
I'm sorry but the elite channel is broken. It's just a PUG group anymore that is now formed in the channel instead of the que. There was no reason for 1/2 that team to have been in elite, except they wanted 4edc and hoped the group would pull them through somehow.
Its not just IGE today, but ISE. When the chat in the waiting to start area is "who is doing what?" I got worried since it's one mission that doesn't need assigned positions. luckily that one worked out.
killing an unshielded generator doesn't prove how great your build is! killing nanites & not helping to take down structures doesn't prove anything about your abilities either. if you pop the generator early, you should help clean the mess, not park far away to pick off lone nanite probes.
Totally agree, only the culprit last night was a well built MVAE that had great DPS potential (fleet or forum based build?) but the pilot was a different matter.
He would attack the nearest generator in ISE, stay far from the cube, run far away when the nanite swarm ensued.
There was little time to warn anyone so I just told off said MVAE pilot to "If you are so kind as to deploy a dozen spheres, why don't you mop it up ALL BY YOURSELF like a responsible man?"
That shook him awake and instead of hanging off 20km away he did make an effort to join the team. Tactical Odyssey PUG managed to do a smart move luring spheres to follow him round and round the transformer and not shoot anyone so it was a simple matter of swooping in and popping the spheres with warp plasma and massed cannon fire.
Mr. MVAE despite his huge front DPS potential decided he was scared of all the spheres, barely fired fore weapons and instead fired unbuffed turrets at the spheres doing virtually no effective DPS. I had a pair of Galaxy Rs doing much much more damage than that MVAE (Tactical captain Galaxies were doing close to 3k damage per DBB hit with APA, TT and EPTW).
Same story on the other side but this time we were prepared and adopted the unofficial BARCAP strategy to knock out all the spheres as they arrived at the gate.
End of the day I quipped that USS BADASS is a really poor name for a low performing ship.
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Yesterday on KASE I had the misfortune of being the only one who knew what to do, and having a team that did not communicate. oh sure one guy called kang and the rest split for the right cube so I thought "maybe they know what they are doing". Take out the 2 BoP's and head for the nanites, all 3 of them start attacking the cube. I tell them what needs to be dne but they just keep going, and they all explode at about the same time. I think "ok well maybe when they respawn they will listen. then I see the optional fail and I look behind me and see that mr "I'll defend the kang!" is busy trying in vain to kill a BoP while the other 3 hammer on the kang. I speed back and mop up, then ask why he didnt tell anyone he needed help. No response. So I figure ill sit near by and help, luckily the others had started wotking on the nanites but are still exploding every few minutes so im thinking "well this will be a while." and move to the center cube to pick off BoP's and nanites. im workinf on the bop,s and keeping an eye on the kang when i see that they are trying to blow the cube. I say "Don't kill it yet or we will fail.", I get only silence in response.
I fly over and spam it right infront of them in zone, silence. So long story short they blew the cube and totaly failed to even dent the 3 raptors they were arracking while I was busy slowing the other 3 down and we failed.
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Not everything you see on the internet is true - Abraham Lincoln
Good players can fail STF because of misunderstanding.
Yesterday I ran KASE with guys from elitestf channel. Usually everyone is ok.
Before we run the stf. We define who do what. In my case I should help on the right side and start the job for other players when the finish withe the left side.
When I was on the right side. The guy with me told me. Hey. You're not the right side. You should be with all of them. I thought my english is poor. Maybe misunderstood. So I went to the left. The guy on the right side let 3 probe passed out. And the leader said . WTF why did you say to lars (my name ingame) go to the left?
We failed optionnal.
almost happened again last night with IGE. Had one guy popping off shield generators left and right. Any time I'd get a clear shot there would be a shield in the door way. At one point he put up a shield and trapped a team member in it and they had to wait out the game until it went away.
dude threw up a shield on captain ogden that trapped him 1/2 in the shield and made him unable to be targeted. So we had to wait for the shield to disappear before we could kill him. When I told him to be careful with the shields he came back that we has helped us with Ogden.
Get tot the final room and he immediately spawns pets and agro's the whole room. Then when we all had to respawn he told us jumpers we need to move faster on the consoles. When we did the second run I noticed when he died (we won't get into the list of damage his toon has listed) I noticed other team members were ignoring his calls for help. I think it helped the team. Had he gotten the PSG at the end I was going to kill someone.
I think the worst recent STF I had involved a Klingon player (piloting a Vor'cha, I think) accomplishing very little for the team beyond intentionally failing the optional (at least according to the combat log, since he was dead last in dps). How he intentionally failed it, you ask?
I play an engineer in a sci ody, and I get pretty good dps (according to my combat log parser, anyways). So good that I can (and often have to, due to how TRIBBLE most pug teams act in elites) switch between grinding down fixed assets and killing probes (KASE, for anyone wondering). So, I manage to catch a few probes with warp plasma before they're about ten seconds or so from reaching the gate, again due to getting no help from the idiot in the Vor'cha (rest of the team is on the other side), and from behind the probes, he pops tractor beam repulsors.
You can guess what happens next.
Oh, also, before I forget, my worst all-time STF, also a KASE run, this happened about two weeks ago (before I got the sci ody, so I was flying a Galor). Team had pretty horrible dps, even mine wasn't particularly great (this is around the time I had just discovered combat logs and parsing them, so I hadn't yet optimized my build). We fail the optional due to time (oh boy do we ever, the mission itself ended up taking a good 40 minutes), because as is usual for KAS runs, nobody wants to do probe duty (I end up volunteering if only because I'm the only person paying attention).
Well, shortly before the optional is failed, one of the players decides to go AFK. He parks himself about 60km away from both gateways (so more-or-less dead center in the middle of nowhere), leaving me to switch between killing probes and trying to speed things along with the fixed assets. We somehow manage to avoid failing the mission altogether, and get to Donatra. By this time, I'm exhausted, in a bad mood, and thinking about revenge. None of us has any points in threat control, and I'm the only one doing anything approaching decent dps. So I get aggro on Donatra, and proceed to kite her the whole 60km across the map into range of the AFKer, at which point I (and the rest of the team, after informing them of my intentions) break aggro. Donatra dutifully selects the AFKer as her new target (for some reason, the AFKer must've had himself selected, because he starts firing on Donatra the moment she enters 10km range), cloaks from him being *right there*, and then decloaks maybe two seconds later almost right on top of him.
I think there might be a couple kinks that are failing the optional on purpose. Like in ISE they will fly off to side two and start on the nodes before the gen is dead on side one. They almost always ignore the 10% or worse yet they will fly off into the distance and do nothing. :mad:
I can't really say though, the kinks just stand out in my mind. I'm sure there are pleanty of fed that will do the same thing. :eek:
Rainbow technicolor beams and skittles throw wenches into the works badly enough without having a saboteur on the team.
Worst stf experience ever was just now. CSE pug (I know I know), 4 vo'quvs specced out as skittle boats flown by tacs. Bad enough that 1 cube was popped early although the pets and the dps from my armitage managed to salvage things to the point where we popped the second cube.
Thing is, when the neghs started to spawn they come out wielding their latest weapons: Boarding parties, double tapped heavy plasma torps and isometric charges.
Now thanks to the decision making skills (aka lack thereof) of the carrier clowns decided to take the cube first, ignoring the newly increased negh swarms leaving me to try and deal with them alone. My please were ignored and one got close enough to hit the kang.
1 isometric charge later and *boom* goes the kang from full shields and 100% hull. Yes, the kang was one shotted. It wasn't the first time in the game that people were hit for more than 1 million non crit by an isometric charge while fully shielded!
Today we had some guy called Panda who charged straight into each room and threw grenades at his feet. He also didn't ever remodulate his weapon, used a minigun and didn't reply to chats.
Suffice to say that didn't go very well for the rest of us. The profanities in Teamspeak would have made an Irish Dockworker blush
I have not been playing forever but I notice since I have started that any glitch that favors a player is squashed fast while others, even in the same instance, are ignored. Cure Ground is a perfect example. Players found a way to kill the boss without him noticing they were there and now little force bubbles will pop up and push you out of the blind spot. But before you can get to the force bubbles that push you into orbital strikes, you have to get past the Borg at the nodes around the turrets, you know... the ones you only have 15 minutes to disarm... that you can knock back +22 with your MK XII pulsewave that you had to grind for the rare drop for them to only fold space and appear right back at the node before you can even fire a second shot. Not only that, they can stand up at the spot you knocked them to and not be disengaged from killing your node nor interrupted meaning that the whole time they were laying on the ground, getting back up, and failing to fold space via above mentioned bug to get back where they were, they were still killing your node. I have filed many many many bug notices via the bug interface in the game for a long time. 6 months later, every single one of them is still there. I made an alt and went back to the missions. The bugs that griped me the most were just as alive and well today as they were then.
Before I get called ungrateful or anything, I do realize there is a lot of code in that game and the devs work hard on keeping things going, in line with the IPO as much as possible, and do their best to make it a great game. But the accounting devs get more input than the coding devs it seems. Gotta fix any issues with lockboxes and other micro (lol if you can call some of the prices micro) transactions before anything else. And no, I don't play for free so they don't depend on me buying keys to get money from me. I pay a sub in hopes that money goes to devs so that the game gets better. Of course, keys probably have better income than subs so the accounting devs win again. Sell a toon costume t-shirt for off-duty or something with a smashed bug on it and make it so that all proceeds can go into a voluntary over-time fund for the devs to be able to 1) make some overtime and 2) fix bugs. That way the accounting devs are delighted because they can sell something else PLUS they don't have to pay for over-time because we pay for it through the toon shirt drive. Hey, it works for little leagues. Why not here? Or a candy bar sounds good too. Just no candles. I have to buy those from nieces in school things too often.
I log in with my oddy beta build. I had tested already, it had good numbers, I just needed some data on the different console setups. two of us go right, the rest go forward. I assume they wanna defend the Kang, and they will come help us, when they realize their numbers. no, they attacked the forward cube, that means I have to get back defend the Kang, between the left and right cubes.
now that is not a hard thing to do, but it was very uncomfortable, because I was in my frakking oddy, and not an agile ship.
after a while I noticed that the guy on the right still destroyed only three probes, and starts to go on a death streak (not helping the ones in the middle). I cannot help, because I have a hard time manouvering between the two cubes on the sides, so this goes on, the guys start to get the raptors on them, so they go one on one, making the fight as long as possible. I myself got some of those (after some time I had 3) raptors, which I dealt with faster than they did with their ones.
finally the middle cube is gone, so I have to manouver between the two cubes against raptors. still not a big problem, but then a guy started to balme us for failing. first it was everybody who sucked (he was lvl 47, so I highly doubt he had such awesome weaopnry, especially since he was in a DSSV, which I love, but his weapons were both rainbows, and single beams, so this was not maximized DPS anywhere), but then he found me. he started to tell, that I in my oddy (as all in oddies are noobs ofc) am to blame. at this point, I stopped shooting, just so he can demonstarte how to use a DSSV (I told him to defend the Kang, because noone else did, so I had no influence on anything). he went, and when he had 6 raptors around him, and died, I killed those, and then he stopped the flaming in the chat.
we finally got to the final fight, which was another story. they all sat around it, so I got a whole side of the ship alone. when the ship was at 50%, I realized that they are all on the other sides of the ship, and only on my side is the shield down, so in the end it was not me, who failed the valuable optional loot.
Went into cure space elite. All the players spawned in and headed to the cubes, I got to the middle cube and fired 1 shot at the bops and then my ship decided it was time to leave and warped out of the mission. I found out through pm's with the person who organised the match, that 2 other players also experienced their ships auto leaving. Fortunately no leaver penalty was given. But i'm not sure about the two poor players who were lefted in the match to do it by themselves.
How can you be sure when klink is an instant admiral?
Because, if you check my stats. I'm instant admiral. I just have 4820 points of accolade. I agree that is really poor in spite of I already ran more than 300 STF.
How can you be sure when klink is an instant admiral?
Because, if you check my stats. I'm instant admiral. I just have 4820 points of accolade. I agree that is really poor in spite of I already ran more than 300 STF.
Under 4000 accolade points with technicolor rainbow beams and a DPS that couldn't kill a simple probe and flying an oddy is a dead giveaway. Instant admiral. And I'm not saying the oddy is a bad ship, it just needs to be set up right just like any other ship. Instant admirals are usually clueless on ship setup.
I'm currently conducting an experiment with a second character in a F2P setting which is not in any way connected to my main character other than as a friend for trading. That character has under 400 accolade points and is a lt commander 15. It's doing very few missions but is doing all the doff mission it can. The ship has tremendous firepower compared to ships of the same rank because I'm feeding it from my paid character. I'm also feeding it all the doff officers I can from the paid account.
I don't have time to play constantly so seeing how fast it can rank is out of the question. But overall this character has been going for about ten days. I'm pretty sure I can reach instant admiral within a few days just using the doff missions. :cool:
i had about gave up using the computer because i liked the iPad2 so much. this game is what got me back on the computer.
i feel lucky that i do not run into rainbows and skittles as much as some players do. beleive it or not i have seen a couple escorts firing DHC skittles that were not all that bad.
my theory is people repeat what they have heard to make themselves feel better. a guy is called a nood so he calls you a noob. my number one indicator of a fail mission is someone starting with the noob name calling.
instant admirals....i started playing and knew nothing about the game. i had rainbows, weird console set ups, poorly trained officers, etc., but i made admiral very fast. i didn't time it, but it did not take me long.
i have checked around and found a lot of players do not go after accolades, so i'm not sure of how good an idicator accolades are. personally i am very aggressive about getting them.
now for a worst STF experience:
the vault became more difficult after season 6 or so it seems. big ships can't get in which i think was more of a mental crutch than real help in the vault.
i need very few datalogs to upgrade to mk12 on my reman set. i was frustrated after season 6 kicked in because my success rate in the vault really decreased. i noticed players were not aggressive enough primarily and many apparently do not know the objecties.
i stayed up late, tired, to do a round of vault missions one night. no one was getting the objective 32 as i was getting attacked left and right on the otherside. i kept waiting for someone to get 32. i stated "no one knows the objectives?" no reply. i just set there and started explaining how the vault should be done.
one guy tells me to shut up and to start shooting. i explained we were going to lose because no one was taking care of 32 and time was running out.
sure enough we lose without getting 32 remodulated. the worst vault ever.
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I PuGed into a cure normal space.
I see four oddys but I say 'Hi' anyway.
No responce as usual.
(I could probably just copy and paste the first few lines of my tales of terror from my other tales of terror.)
Anyhow.........
I buzz on over to the right side and start killing nodes.
No help.
I look back and see all four oddys packed around the Kang blazing away with their technicolor rainbow beams set on stun.
I type, 'A little help please?'
Someone types, 'why? you're an escort, you should be able to do it all yourself.'
I'm like 'Hu?'
I shut down and parked. I was peeved. :mad:
I immediatly went off on their technicolor rainbow beams set on stun and weak blankidy blank oddys.
Then I turn around and killed everything but lost the optional by about 5 seconds.
Now for the fun part.
I parked again and watched them try to kill the carrier (or whatever it is).
They were begging me to help.
I say, 'Why? Your technicolor rainbow beams set on stun and super duper oddys should be able to handle it.'
Almost 30 minutes later I gor tired of watching and typed, 'lose the POS rainbow technicolor beams and build a REAL ship.'
Someone says 'FU'
I flew over, gave the carrier a 1 - 2 punch, took my goodies and left.
I had checked their status while I was watching, all instant admirals with around 3000 accolade points. :eek:
What else is new? Seriously, these care-bears with massive egos who think they're so awesome really get on my nerves.
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Infected Space Elite.
I PuGed in and said 'Hi' as usual.
No responce as usual.
I see a Klink, something I couldn't identify but it was Fed an Escort and an oddy.
I type, '10% rule?'
The Escort says, 'F That' :eek:
I think 'Oh Goody'
We fly off and start shooting things.
The escort and oddy have technicolor rainbow beams, the klink has skittles.
I think 'Oh Goody'
The klink dies.
We all fly to the left, three ships are working on one node, I go to the other side of the gen and start working on one node and the klink goes to the gate and starts shooting away.
I think 'Oh Goody'
Pretty quick we are overwelmed by spheres.
I say, 'If you guys can keep the spheres away from the Gen I'll kill it.'
The Escort says 'F That'
I think 'Oh Goody'
I finally catch a break with the help of the ship I didn't identify and get the gen killed and we start working harder on the spheres.
20 minutes later, side two the same thing.
The Klink is still shooting the gate and by now he's died so many times he may as well not be in the game.
About two forevers go by and we finally kill the side 2 Gen.
Now the Cube has come into play.
It's getting agro from the Klink and he pulls it around into the gate.
I focused on the Cube, everyone else was shooting Gate and dying left and right.
I died a couple times too. (Darn It)
The Cube dies and when it went it took a good chunk out of the Gate so the rest was failrly easy.
The Klink then pipes up, 'if you noobes would have helped me kill the gate at the start this wouldn't have happened.'
I'm like, 'Hu?'
I said, 'Have you ever played ISE before or won an ISE optional?'
He said, 'He's been playing ISE for weeks and never won the optional because of noobes like you.'
I said, 'Ok, You're not going to win the next one either.'
I gathered my goodies and left.
Hilarious dude
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KAGE. 3 people said Hi. 2 said nothing. After the secong mob, I realized one of them don't communicate in chat room. And he dies always. I mean when we are fighting ridiculous borg, he's the only one to die. We go to the first room. He stayed in the back and we 4 we fought we the mob. The second room. He came in and died. We deal with the mob without he. Step by step it was the same. He dies and we do the job. Finally we went to the last big room wth those 6 shield. We make clean the place. For B3, he died. For A3, B2,A2. At A2, I helped him to revive. While I helped he, Some borgs shoot me and I died when he revive and he let me there. He escaped to B1 and die to B1. I respawn and I said. Don't you know teamwork? Teammate helped you so you should help teammate. He answered me that he needs accolade. I said It's not a reason. He went into the tunnel and die. And he respawn... At the begining of the map. He asked us to help him to come to the last room. Someone said "No! Lets go!". Nobody said something. We kill the boss and his friends. We got our goodies and we let the guy trying to go to the room. I think he didn't get accolade nor goodies neither.
Truly, a case of "Accolade Fixtation". Idk but going to KAGE for an accolade is a bit silly for a newer player. A normal is easily manageable for someone new to ground STFs and still gives the same accolade.
Bonus points for trying to coach him though
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ISE as usual, double loot wednesday, so usually there are more people. join in, say the usual hi, got 3 responses, which I take as a good sign (not all answer, while know the tactics, so I dont mind them). we finish the cube and spheres really quickly, move on to the left. one guy (who said hi, so I had high hopes about him
we go right and find one generator already popped. who was it? I have no idea. not our rainbow defiant hero, for sure. however he did continue, and go for the generator ignoring the cube. now the optional still was in the air, however with a group, that does not even know the basic 10% tactic (I do not even think there is a better one, not for pugs anyway), I could not ask to save the optional, because it would have required to not kill one generator, which was obviously an issue in their heads.
when we finally cleared the nanites, one guy was off in the distance fighting his sphere, while we tried to destroy the transformer. oviously we lacked dps, since the one ody in the distance did not help, neither did the beam defiant, and I had to concentrate on the nanites, and had to wait for the time when I can pop my gravity well in a place, where the cube wont be aggro'ed.
my precautions were stupid, since the first thing the ody did, when he gloriously defeated his sphere was to attack the tac cube, and our beam defiant hero went to help him, and when they were failing they obviously pulled the damned thing towards us. so I popped evasive and went in a way where I can still shoot at the gate, while the cube was shooting my shields down, so the gate could pick my 5% shield, and kill me with a 40k shot (and this happened to everyone). going back, our heroes go for the cube, fortunately it is behind the gate, so we can pick the gate apart, and then move to the cube, which was easy ofc.
now we did finish this in reasonable time, but what I still dont understand is the rainbow defiant. he was a 400 day veteran, and was still flying a beam escort, knows nothing about elites, and comes obviously for the double loot... was he trolling, or there are people, who still do not understand the game after a year?
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Now I'm an engineer, but NOT a tanking engineer. My Excelsior is designed to be a combat/support ship. I normally play with a tank in an Odyssey. Anywho, I like to torture myself and do PuG Elite STFs on occasion (greedy for chips and such.)
Now I need to explain this ship a bit more thoroughly before I get into this silly little tris. My ship is capable of dumping an incredible amount of firepower for an engineer, combined with manuverability I carved out a little niche in my fleet as the mid field player who can dart in and fill gaps with lotsa pretty crimson bolts of death. Mind you, I have absolutely no threat control, so any and all aggro I pull is because of the damage I'm dealing.
Now for the story.
So I jump into an Elite Khitomer and looking at the team, I'm the only engineer; everyone else is a tactical officer. Not a problem, I believe, they can/should be able to kill anything that looks at them sideways. Cool.
So after the first cube gets waxed I pull off, going my normal route to kill probes on one of the sides while the others kill the generators, transformers and such, and I will aide on my side when I can. Typical, normal everyday manuvers I've been doing since I joined my fleet.
Now, I'm already sitting in the probe lane, killing leisurely, when one of the players shows up, also in an Excelsior, his borg junk hanging all over, and starts attacking my probes. Me, I get a little annoyed, seeing as I figured being in one spot for over 3 minutes is long enough for people to establish that I'm doing something. This guy didn't believe so. So, I stop firing, turn, and attack the generators next to me, assuming since he jumped my spot he can handle it. Nope.
As I'm shooting up the generators, cube, then transformer I'm watching him as well, and seeing he's broadsiding the probes, and getting forced back further and further towards the gate the probes want to go through. When the transformer blows, I dart across infront of the destroyable gate, and kill a probe, thinking it might give him some breathing room to collect himself. Wrong again.
I start on the otherside of the gate, blow up the generators and such, and see his backs against the wall, and two probes make it past him. So I paddle over to him, destroy the four probes bearing down on him, then turn around and sit infront of the gate again.
This guy starts darting all over for a while, then settles down, seeing I haven't moved and am killing without an issue. So he sits above and behind me, shooting at my targets...again.
The gates are destroyed without any more issues and now it's time for Donatara...
Now I must reiterate that I'm an engineer, and not a tanking one. No threat control, just firepower, so I can only aggro through shooting something.
Now, Donatara shows up and immediately blows up one of the tac officers. I'm shooting at her by now and it was almost like she noticed me and went: YOU.
She proceeds to chase me around the map as I shoot back, vainly trying to get out of her sights. The other four are shooting on her, but for the life of them cannot pull aggro. So she blows me up and turns on the others.
This goes on for about 20 minutes. She pops one of them while I'm dead, then instantly turns on me, over and over. I stopped firing at her and just watched the dps they were doing out of curiosity. They were averaging 3-600 dps. My shots were doing 6-1200dps.
We finally managed to kill her after I figured out how to work my engines and get behind her. (BTW she has an incredible turn rate!)
I was extremely impressed with my ship, but also found it laughable that ONE engineer could do more damage than FOUR tac officers combined.
Now from what I have read here time and time again pugging can get bad at times, sometimes u can pug a fantastic group (only had this once). So I now only to run elite stfs with my fleet unless I am bored then I'll pug it.... Btw I'm a tac in a retro defiant
Anywho I group up with a fleet mate and we que for infected elite space,
As we enter I shout out 'do we all know the 10% rule'
Only get one reply, ' yer no noobs here' . So I think ok we shall see, we take the cube and 2 spheres out in the blink of an eye and then proceed to the left side to work on the cube and genes, as we get them down the 10% my fleet mate states that he is ready and waiting and then we blow them.
While working on the first transformer this one guy 'Klingon I may add' starts using his mouth as a weapon, she shouts the following ' RAGE' followed by 'I want Spock dead..... Nowww'
By this time we had the transformer down and just clearing the spheres and he and someone else darts off the the right side and blows one of the genes, both me and my fleet mate in teamspeak are calling this guy a noob, but while he flys in a circle the cube on the left notices he shiny hull and goes : you , die now... And so this guy insta dies.
The 3 of us clearing the spheres manage to stop the nanites heading to the right, my fleet mate goes ahead with more dps then me to blow the rest of the genes then take the cube, I can handle the nanites, so I proceed to blow one at a time while using my slowly abilities that I have, so I'm dumping tractor beam when I need to and using my graviton pulse gene to slow the group the transformer goes bang, Im thinking thank god that's over.
So my surprise loud mouth comes back with 'anger' 'rage' 'smashes fist into keyboard' and he continues this until the fight is over, we just get optional with 3 seconds spare and the loud mouth goes on a rant again calling us all noobs we sould have done it his way I politely tell him to shut up collect my gear and pick the optional up, mr loud mouth comes in with I done all the work I want all the gear.. We all place in capital letters ROFPMSL, he then replays 'I hate you all' and we leave him be,
After looking back on who got what I realised this guy didn't get anything from the optional and me and my fleet mate laugh about it..
An incredible tale. Who said the Excelsior is "aging" lol!
I get similar attention in my Tactical Odyssey Prototype. It's just the "low DPS useless 2 console" Prototype but each phaser DBB BO3 does over 12k damage. Couple that with Sensor scan, Attack Pattern Beta and a following salvo of quantum torpedoes makes for impressive burst damage which means this poor prototype always gets the lion's share of aggro even with zero threat control.
Donatra would just chase me round and round while the "Elite" pugs wouldn't even dent her rear shield!
The only thing that kind of works in that scenario is get someone to eject warp plasma and gravwell all over her and just wear her shields down gradually by attrition while the Scimitar is stationary. Careful she can still spin around like a fleet escort while locked down.
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I see that, and then the Starfleet tactical cruiser guy and his friend (sometimes, but not always another tactical cruiser) go off on their own to try to kill nanites after popping the closest generator, ignoring the 3 other generators, sometimes not even contributing to the transformer... or, more recently, I see tactical cruiser guy hotel alpha to 10km stand off range of the generators on the opposite side of the transformer from the gateway so that the Borg adds don't aggro on them. instead, the escorts and bops in the group get to tank the new Borg because some cruiser captains don't want to get their hull dirty.
killing an unshielded generator doesn't prove how great your build is! killing nanites & not helping to take down structures doesn't prove anything about your abilities either. if you pop the generator early, you should help clean the mess, not park far away to pick off lone nanite probes.
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I HATE double EDC days. It brings out the worst players into the Elite rounds. Just TRIED to run IGE (only tech I still need), group was going fine, had like 2 minutes left on the optional and started the last room. They bum rush it and get killed.
Then becky's room. I should have known it was going to be bad when they started spawning pets to agro the room. First run my system locked but I managed to get back, and luckily STO was running and I could start up where I was. Well I look and they are to the 4th corner, I'm thinking well done. Look to my side and the first corner has reset and the borg are respawning. So not sure what happened.
I do the jumping with 2 others for the second round. Things are going well, little timing issue on corner 3, but got past it. Get to corner 4, one of the 2 not jumping falls in the plasma for some reason. 3 of us clear the 4th corner of the borg, and then one guy leaves the corner with out hitting the console and starts trying to resurrect the one in the plasma instead of hitting the console so we could keep moving. Then basically ignores what the mission is and starts shooting borg. Well needless to say corner 1 has reset. Then he just randomly starts shooting borg. Does not respawn with the rest of us to start over, then bails out of the mission.
So that left 4 of us, oops now 3 because he bailed someone else did. Then another leaving 2 of us.
I'm sorry but the elite channel is broken. It's just a PUG group anymore that is now formed in the channel instead of the que. There was no reason for 1/2 that team to have been in elite, except they wanted 4edc and hoped the group would pull them through somehow.
Its not just IGE today, but ISE. When the chat in the waiting to start area is "who is doing what?" I got worried since it's one mission that doesn't need assigned positions. luckily that one worked out.
Totally agree, only the culprit last night was a well built MVAE that had great DPS potential (fleet or forum based build?) but the pilot was a different matter.
He would attack the nearest generator in ISE, stay far from the cube, run far away when the nanite swarm ensued.
There was little time to warn anyone so I just told off said MVAE pilot to "If you are so kind as to deploy a dozen spheres, why don't you mop it up ALL BY YOURSELF like a responsible man?"
That shook him awake and instead of hanging off 20km away he did make an effort to join the team. Tactical Odyssey PUG managed to do a smart move luring spheres to follow him round and round the transformer and not shoot anyone so it was a simple matter of swooping in and popping the spheres with warp plasma and massed cannon fire.
Mr. MVAE despite his huge front DPS potential decided he was scared of all the spheres, barely fired fore weapons and instead fired unbuffed turrets at the spheres doing virtually no effective DPS. I had a pair of Galaxy Rs doing much much more damage than that MVAE (Tactical captain Galaxies were doing close to 3k damage per DBB hit with APA, TT and EPTW).
Same story on the other side but this time we were prepared and adopted the unofficial BARCAP strategy to knock out all the spheres as they arrived at the gate.
End of the day I quipped that USS BADASS is a really poor name for a low performing ship.
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I fly over and spam it right infront of them in zone, silence. So long story short they blew the cube and totaly failed to even dent the 3 raptors they were arracking while I was busy slowing the other 3 down and we failed.
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Yesterday I ran KASE with guys from elitestf channel. Usually everyone is ok.
Before we run the stf. We define who do what. In my case I should help on the right side and start the job for other players when the finish withe the left side.
When I was on the right side. The guy with me told me. Hey. You're not the right side. You should be with all of them. I thought my english is poor. Maybe misunderstood. So I went to the left. The guy on the right side let 3 probe passed out. And the leader said . WTF why did you say to lars (my name ingame) go to the left?
We failed optionnal.
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I PuG in and see 4 oddys.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
I say 'HI as usual.
No responce.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
I fly off to the cube and it goes down fairly quick despite the technicolor rainbow beams on all 4 oddys.
I say I'll take probe duty and fly to where i can kill probes from both sides.
I look back, all 4 oddys followed me to center.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
So I say, 'OK, I'm going left' and I fly left and start on the nodes.
I look back and all 4 oddys followed me to the left.
I say, 'Anyone going to handle the probes?'
No responce.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
So I fly back and kill a couple probes.
I look around, all 4 oddys had followed me.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
So I fly right in front of them where I know they could see me.
I type, 'Two of you stay here and kill the probes coming from the left and right, two of you follow me.'
No Responce.
I think, 'Oh Goody.'
I fly left again and look around. All 4 oddys had followed me.
I said, 'Yall have a wondeful life.'
And bugged out.
The 4 oddys had to be thinking, 'Now what do we do?' :eek:
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dude threw up a shield on captain ogden that trapped him 1/2 in the shield and made him unable to be targeted. So we had to wait for the shield to disappear before we could kill him. When I told him to be careful with the shields he came back that we has helped us with Ogden.
Get tot the final room and he immediately spawns pets and agro's the whole room. Then when we all had to respawn he told us jumpers we need to move faster on the consoles. When we did the second run I noticed when he died (we won't get into the list of damage his toon has listed) I noticed other team members were ignoring his calls for help. I think it helped the team. Had he gotten the PSG at the end I was going to kill someone.
I play an engineer in a sci ody, and I get pretty good dps (according to my combat log parser, anyways). So good that I can (and often have to, due to how TRIBBLE most pug teams act in elites) switch between grinding down fixed assets and killing probes (KASE, for anyone wondering). So, I manage to catch a few probes with warp plasma before they're about ten seconds or so from reaching the gate, again due to getting no help from the idiot in the Vor'cha (rest of the team is on the other side), and from behind the probes, he pops tractor beam repulsors.
You can guess what happens next.
Oh, also, before I forget, my worst all-time STF, also a KASE run, this happened about two weeks ago (before I got the sci ody, so I was flying a Galor). Team had pretty horrible dps, even mine wasn't particularly great (this is around the time I had just discovered combat logs and parsing them, so I hadn't yet optimized my build). We fail the optional due to time (oh boy do we ever, the mission itself ended up taking a good 40 minutes), because as is usual for KAS runs, nobody wants to do probe duty (I end up volunteering if only because I'm the only person paying attention).
Well, shortly before the optional is failed, one of the players decides to go AFK. He parks himself about 60km away from both gateways (so more-or-less dead center in the middle of nowhere), leaving me to switch between killing probes and trying to speed things along with the fixed assets. We somehow manage to avoid failing the mission altogether, and get to Donatra. By this time, I'm exhausted, in a bad mood, and thinking about revenge. None of us has any points in threat control, and I'm the only one doing anything approaching decent dps. So I get aggro on Donatra, and proceed to kite her the whole 60km across the map into range of the AFKer, at which point I (and the rest of the team, after informing them of my intentions) break aggro. Donatra dutifully selects the AFKer as her new target (for some reason, the AFKer must've had himself selected, because he starts firing on Donatra the moment she enters 10km range), cloaks from him being *right there*, and then decloaks maybe two seconds later almost right on top of him.
Again, you can guess what happens next.
I can't really say though, the kinks just stand out in my mind. I'm sure there are pleanty of fed that will do the same thing. :eek:
Rainbow technicolor beams and skittles throw wenches into the works badly enough without having a saboteur on the team.
Thing is, when the neghs started to spawn they come out wielding their latest weapons: Boarding parties, double tapped heavy plasma torps and isometric charges.
Now thanks to the decision making skills (aka lack thereof) of the carrier clowns decided to take the cube first, ignoring the newly increased negh swarms leaving me to try and deal with them alone. My please were ignored and one got close enough to hit the kang.
1 isometric charge later and *boom* goes the kang from full shields and 100% hull. Yes, the kang was one shotted. It wasn't the first time in the game that people were hit for more than 1 million non crit by an isometric charge while fully shielded!
Not kidding. Kang was one shotted.
Today we had some guy called Panda who charged straight into each room and threw grenades at his feet. He also didn't ever remodulate his weapon, used a minigun and didn't reply to chats.
Suffice to say that didn't go very well for the rest of us. The profanities in Teamspeak would have made an Irish Dockworker blush
Before I get called ungrateful or anything, I do realize there is a lot of code in that game and the devs work hard on keeping things going, in line with the IPO as much as possible, and do their best to make it a great game. But the accounting devs get more input than the coding devs it seems. Gotta fix any issues with lockboxes and other micro (lol if you can call some of the prices micro) transactions before anything else. And no, I don't play for free so they don't depend on me buying keys to get money from me. I pay a sub in hopes that money goes to devs so that the game gets better. Of course, keys probably have better income than subs so the accounting devs win again. Sell a toon costume t-shirt for off-duty or something with a smashed bug on it and make it so that all proceeds can go into a voluntary over-time fund for the devs to be able to 1) make some overtime and 2) fix bugs. That way the accounting devs are delighted because they can sell something else PLUS they don't have to pay for over-time because we pay for it through the toon shirt drive. Hey, it works for little leagues. Why not here? Or a candy bar sounds good too. Just no candles. I have to buy those from nieces in school things too often.
Cure Space Normal.
I pugged in...
Looked around...
Waited...
Waited...
Waited...
Where is everybody?
The Game looks ok, three Cubes, a bunch of Nodes, the Kang...
Where is eveybody...
I'm all alone! :eek:
So I bugged out...
That eerie, spooky feeling of being all alone was just too much....
I log in with my oddy beta build. I had tested already, it had good numbers, I just needed some data on the different console setups. two of us go right, the rest go forward. I assume they wanna defend the Kang, and they will come help us, when they realize their numbers. no, they attacked the forward cube, that means I have to get back defend the Kang, between the left and right cubes.
now that is not a hard thing to do, but it was very uncomfortable, because I was in my frakking oddy, and not an agile ship.
after a while I noticed that the guy on the right still destroyed only three probes, and starts to go on a death streak (not helping the ones in the middle). I cannot help, because I have a hard time manouvering between the two cubes on the sides, so this goes on, the guys start to get the raptors on them, so they go one on one, making the fight as long as possible. I myself got some of those (after some time I had 3) raptors, which I dealt with faster than they did with their ones.
finally the middle cube is gone, so I have to manouver between the two cubes against raptors. still not a big problem, but then a guy started to balme us for failing. first it was everybody who sucked (he was lvl 47, so I highly doubt he had such awesome weaopnry, especially since he was in a DSSV, which I love, but his weapons were both rainbows, and single beams, so this was not maximized DPS anywhere), but then he found me. he started to tell, that I in my oddy (as all in oddies are noobs ofc) am to blame. at this point, I stopped shooting, just so he can demonstarte how to use a DSSV (I told him to defend the Kang, because noone else did, so I had no influence on anything). he went, and when he had 6 raptors around him, and died, I killed those, and then he stopped the flaming in the chat.
we finally got to the final fight, which was another story. they all sat around it, so I got a whole side of the ship alone. when the ship was at 50%, I realized that they are all on the other sides of the ship, and only on my side is the shield down, so in the end it was not me, who failed the valuable optional loot.
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
I can only wish I could play sto on my iPad, but then I'd never get anything done at work.
There I was.......:)
PuGed into an ISN.
I said, 'hi' as usual.
No response as usual.
I flew over to the first group and start shooting.
I look around all the other ships were missing.
Two oddys had gone left, a kink and a cruser had gone right.
All of them had technicolor rainbow beams.
I think 'oh great'
I got the first group killed but by the time I was done there were probes and spheres everywhere.
None of the other ships were doing much damage and they were shooting the spheres rather than the probes or nodes.
I checked stats, all instant admirals.
I joined in the two on the left side.
I said kill the nodes and probes.
The response was 'Fu noobe.' :eek:
I killed the remaining nodes and started on the probes.
Then one of the right side people started yelling that we were all noobes and always supposed to start on the right side.
I typed, 'your supposed kill the entry group before you go left or right.'
He just started in with the usual noobe this and noobe that.
I watched the team screen as everyone was dying over and over again.
I PMed the mouthy guy and said, 'look who the noobe is now' about the 5th time he died.
No response.
About 45 minutes later everything was finally dead.
Two guys took off without their goodies.
I really think that if someone takes off without their goodies they should go to the other players in the puG. :cool:
How can you be sure when klink is an instant admiral?
Because, if you check my stats. I'm instant admiral. I just have 4820 points of accolade. I agree that is really poor in spite of I already ran more than 300 STF.
Under 4000 accolade points with technicolor rainbow beams and a DPS that couldn't kill a simple probe and flying an oddy is a dead giveaway. Instant admiral. And I'm not saying the oddy is a bad ship, it just needs to be set up right just like any other ship. Instant admirals are usually clueless on ship setup.
I'm currently conducting an experiment with a second character in a F2P setting which is not in any way connected to my main character other than as a friend for trading. That character has under 400 accolade points and is a lt commander 15. It's doing very few missions but is doing all the doff mission it can. The ship has tremendous firepower compared to ships of the same rank because I'm feeding it from my paid character. I'm also feeding it all the doff officers I can from the paid account.
I don't have time to play constantly so seeing how fast it can rank is out of the question. But overall this character has been going for about ten days. I'm pretty sure I can reach instant admiral within a few days just using the doff missions. :cool:
i had about gave up using the computer because i liked the iPad2 so much. this game is what got me back on the computer.
i feel lucky that i do not run into rainbows and skittles as much as some players do. beleive it or not i have seen a couple escorts firing DHC skittles that were not all that bad.
my theory is people repeat what they have heard to make themselves feel better. a guy is called a nood so he calls you a noob. my number one indicator of a fail mission is someone starting with the noob name calling.
instant admirals....i started playing and knew nothing about the game. i had rainbows, weird console set ups, poorly trained officers, etc., but i made admiral very fast. i didn't time it, but it did not take me long.
i have checked around and found a lot of players do not go after accolades, so i'm not sure of how good an idicator accolades are. personally i am very aggressive about getting them.
now for a worst STF experience:
the vault became more difficult after season 6 or so it seems. big ships can't get in which i think was more of a mental crutch than real help in the vault.
i need very few datalogs to upgrade to mk12 on my reman set. i was frustrated after season 6 kicked in because my success rate in the vault really decreased. i noticed players were not aggressive enough primarily and many apparently do not know the objecties.
i stayed up late, tired, to do a round of vault missions one night. no one was getting the objective 32 as i was getting attacked left and right on the otherside. i kept waiting for someone to get 32. i stated "no one knows the objectives?" no reply. i just set there and started explaining how the vault should be done.
one guy tells me to shut up and to start shooting. i explained we were going to lose because no one was taking care of 32 and time was running out.
sure enough we lose without getting 32 remodulated. the worst vault ever.