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The Villain of the Abrams Star Trek Sequel Leaked

leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Ten Forward
From another forum I post on:
In a press junket for Judge Dredd, Karl Urban was asked how it was working with Benedict Cumberbatch.

His response: He?s awesome, he?s a great addition, and I think his Gary Mitchell is going to be exemplary.

Looks like Gary Mitchell and Doctor Dehner are the big characters in the Star Trek sequel!
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  • januhulljanuhull Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The Win is strong with this one!
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    well it could be a massive misdirection by Urban. It would not totally surprise me if JJ told him to throw that out there to trick people, although i suspect it probably is true.

    either Dehner was not mentioned so we cant be sure on her.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    well it could be a massive misdirection by Urban. It would not totally surprise me if JJ told him to throw that out there to trick people, although i suspect it probably is true.

    either Dehner was not mentioned so we cant be sure on her.

    Alice Eve is playing an unnamed female lead. I'd be shocked if it's not her.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Alice Eve is playing an unnamed female lead. I'd be shocked if it's not her.

    well she looks like her anyway.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    well it could be a massive misdirection by Urban. It would not totally surprise me if JJ told him to throw that out there to trick people, although i suspect it probably is true.

    either Dehner was not mentioned so we cant be sure on her.

    Also: I suspect it's a coyly planned leak, sure.

    But it's probably pretty smart to drop a bomb between Spider-man and Dark Knight Rises to remind the geeks about next year's Star Trek movie.

    Plus, if I were in marketing, I'd recognize that a formal announcement about Gary Mitchell carries no clout OUTSIDE the geek community so it would make sense to leak this (geeks like leaks) and then try to snag the general audience with the awesome trailer of the angry guy with god powers swearing revenge on Kirk.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    pointless this film will BOMB
    sequels of remakes usually do
    Live long and Prosper
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    pointless this film will BOMB
    sequels of remakes usually do

    Sequels of remakes usually bomb? Like an example would be....?

    Remakes seem to be doing just fine in the geek market. The new version of Spiderman, just five years after the last version, made $140 million bucks in six days.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Charlies angels

    Lost in space (gods what a turkey)

    Psycho


    those are good examples

    actually the best way to make this film a success would be to KILL the whole cast and have a REAL enterprise crew from the 25th century turn up and Revert the reboot
    Live long and Prosper
  • sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The villain is going to be a Lobi Crystal.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMm_VoKkuco - Needs more female relief ops ensign.
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Lost in Space sucked, yes, but it was a remake - not a sequel of a remake. Same with the shot-for-shot remake of Psycho. It wasn't a sequel to a remake, it was a remake. Not a good analogy to JJ Trek movie #2 since the JJ reboot original film didn't bomb.

    I don't much like JJ Trek, but I think you are underestimating the Trek-nerd propensity to spend money on bad movies just because its Trek. As bad as TOS movie #5 was, it still made enough to justify TOS movie #6.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Actually it DID bomb compared with real Trek films (it went straight to DVD in some places)

    it was rubbish
    in defiance of normal physical laws it both sucked and blew at the same time

    It made me want to SHOOT scotty as a kindness
    It made me hate Sulu
    It made me think Spock had turned Human AND effeminate
    further it was racist (against orions) Sexist (against women) and offensive to EVERYONE who respected canon

    If I met JJ in person I would very likely swear at him (I NEVER swear normally)
    Live long and Prosper
  • peregrine0falconperegrine0falcon Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Mary Czerwinski's going to be very unhappy to find out that she won't get to play Doctor Dehner.

    http://www.makemedehner.com/

    - Peregrine Falcon
    "Any change to non-good alignment immediately strips the ranger of all benefits, and the character becomes a fighter, with eight-sided hit dice, ever after, and can never regain ranger status."
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Actually it DID bomb compared with real Trek films (it went straight to DVD in some places)

    it was rubbish
    in defiance of normal physical laws it both sucked and blew at the same time

    It made me want to SHOOT scotty as a kindness
    It made me hate Sulu
    It made me think Spock had turned Human AND effeminate
    further it was racist (against orions) Sexist (against women) and offensive to EVERYONE who respected canon

    If I met JJ in person I would very likely swear at him (I NEVER swear normally)

    Yeah, ok. All of that seems like the reaction a really normal and well-adjusted person would have over not liking a movie.

    Oh, wait.....
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Actually it DID bomb compared with real Trek films (it went straight to DVD in some places)

    Was that before or after it made 385million worldwide?
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Was that before or after it made 385million worldwide?

    Yeah, was about to ask him that, too.

    "Star Trek ended its United States theatrical run on October 1, 2009, with a box office total of $257,730,019, which currently places it as the seventh highest-grossing film for 2009 behind The Hangover. The film grossed $127,764,536 in international markets, for a total worldwide gross of $385,494,555"

    From Wikipedia, but the numbers look right compared to other sites.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Note words "in some places"


    and a new REAL trek film could make 20 times that and you know it

    oh and as for "well rounded humans" many of them want to feed him his own clip board for making kirk TRIBBLE
    (and no I did not see him in that context but a LOT of people claim he came out that way)
    Live long and Prosper
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    pointless this film will BOMB
    sequels of remakes usually do

    The 2009 Star Trek movie didn't "BOMB". It was actually the most financially successful of the entire Star Trek franchise. Leaps and bonds above the travesty that was 2002's "Star Trek Nemesis".

    The fact that YOU think the sequel will bomb, speaks volumes about your opinion on the 2009 movie.
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  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Note words "in some places"


    and a new REAL trek film could make 20 times that and you know it

    oh and as for "well rounded humans" many of them want to feed him his own clip board for making kirk TRIBBLE
    (and no I did not see him in that context but a LOT of people claim he came out that way)

    No, I don't know that a "REAL" trek film could make 20 times that...since that would be $7.7 billion, a sum no movie in the history of movies has ever made.

    and I don't know who your LOT of people are, but I think maybe you and I don't see a LOT as the same number.

    Look, you don't like JJ Trek. I don't either. Hyperbole doesn't help your argument thou.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Note words "in some places"


    and a new REAL trek film could make 20 times that and you know it

    oh and as for "well rounded humans" many of them want to feed him his own clip board for making kirk TRIBBLE
    (and no I did not see him in that context but a LOT of people claim he came out that way)

    Note the word - worldwide. what does it matter what the distribution of people who watch it is? it made 385million. that all the matters, not where and when that money was made. who cares if someone in america watched it over someone in france?

    who are you to say what a real star trek film is anyway? getting a little above yourself there if you can dictate what a real trek movie is or is not.

    and a real star trek film would make 20 times more? really? not only would that make it the highest grossing film ever by some considerable distance, the previous 10, even when adjusted for inflation, made less. were those not real trek films either?
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    and a new REAL trek film could make 20 times that and you know it

    The last "REAL" trek film was in 2002, with Star Trek Nemesis, and it BOMBED at the box-office. According to every list in terms of income, Nemesis ranks DEAD LAST among all 11 movies so far. Guess which one made the most?

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm

    Pretty much EVERYONE agrees that Star Trek 5's "The Final Frontier" was the worst of the 10 movies that came before JJ Abrams reboot. And YET it still made more money than Star Trek Nemesis.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Scaled for its time ??

    Wrath of Khan I think

    remember you have to make 30 times as much this year as you did in 2002 to score the same due to inflation of films
    Live long and Prosper
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Scaled for its time ??

    Wrath of Khan I think

    remember you have to make 30 times as much this year as you did in 2002 to score the same due to inflation of films

    If you mean "adjusted for inflation", then check the link I provided above.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    Scaled for its time ??

    Wrath of Khan I think

    remember you have to make 30 times as much this year as you did in 2002 to score the same due to inflation of films

    XI is still the highest even after inflation. even adjusted for inflation khan only comes in at about the 4th highest.

    30 times more between 2002 and 2012!!!! how much do you think ticket prices have gone up by in 10 years?
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    remember you have to make 30 times as much this year as you did in 2002...

    Maybe you didn't see my post where I mention that hyperbole doesn't help your argument? Trust me....it really doesn't.
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  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Not adjusted for inflation:
    1. Star Trek (2009): $257,730,019
    5. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982): $78,912,963
    11. Star Trek: Nemesis (2002): $43,254,409

    Adjusted for inflation:
    1. Star Trek (2009): $273,620,300
    4. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982): $212,581,900
    11. Star Trek: Nemesis (2002): $58,293,500

    Sollvax, may we have some clarification, what exactly is in your cool aid? I'd love to have some of that. None of the evidence supports your claim that a "REAL" Star Trek film could bring in 20 times more than the 2009 movie.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    boglejam73 wrote: »
    Maybe you didn't see my post where I mention that hyperbole doesn't help your argument? Trust me....it really doesn't.

    maybe he means 30%.
  • boglejam73boglejam73 Member Posts: 890 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    maybe he means 30%.

    Maybe.

    Or maybe he just hates JJ Trek so much that he has come slightly unhinged.

    I don't like JJ Trek myself, but facts are facts.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    production costs are up many many times
    actors wages are now HUGE
    so a film Expects to make more with a global release etc etc etc

    but hey you think its a great film
    great for you

    bad for the rest of the world

    I still say the second one will BOMB
    Live long and Prosper
  • meurikmeurik Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I really love how this guy (Sollvax) constantly dodges the questions. Must be in politics.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Unless this movie involves undoing the events of the 2010 reboot and returning to the original Star Trek Timeline in late 24th century I won't be watching it. Didn't watch the first reboot either, I was too disappointed when I found out the Star Trek movie would be a reboot to care about it.
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