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PWE Can Terminate Paid LTS Accounts In Good Standing? (Update in OP)
powerpuffpony
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From here:
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
Your Account may be deactivated if you do not use your Account within twelve months after the date that it was created or for any continuous period of twelve months after creation. If you do not use your Account for twelve or more months, it may be removed and deleted by the Website administrator at their sole discretion. We will endeavor to use reasonable efforts to notify you by e-mail before we delete your Account, unless we are deleting your User ID for a violation of these terms or discontinuation of the Service. However, we will not be liable in any manner for any failure to give notice. If you advise us within five days of the notice that you want to keep your Account active, we will not delete it. If you do not so notify us, your Account may be permanently deleted, along with your User ID, records, ranks and service information. Please note that regardless of any notice, PWE reserves the right to discontinue the Service or to terminate or suspend your account at any time in its sole discretion for any reason, or for no reason.
So if someone does not login to their paid "lifetime" account (which is in good standing) within 12 months, Cryptic / PWE can just delete it?
Or just delete my paid "lifetime" subscription in good standing for any old reason, or even no reason at all?
===UPDATE FROM PWE_BRANFLAKES - 7/19/12===
Greetings Captains,
I've got an update for you
Please rest assured that because Gold accounts receive a monthly stipend, they will not be defined as "inactive" - receiving the stipend counts as activity. This applies to Lifetime Accounts as well as those with a recurring subscription plan.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
http://www.perfectworld.com/about/terms
Your Account may be deactivated if you do not use your Account within twelve months after the date that it was created or for any continuous period of twelve months after creation. If you do not use your Account for twelve or more months, it may be removed and deleted by the Website administrator at their sole discretion. We will endeavor to use reasonable efforts to notify you by e-mail before we delete your Account, unless we are deleting your User ID for a violation of these terms or discontinuation of the Service. However, we will not be liable in any manner for any failure to give notice. If you advise us within five days of the notice that you want to keep your Account active, we will not delete it. If you do not so notify us, your Account may be permanently deleted, along with your User ID, records, ranks and service information. Please note that regardless of any notice, PWE reserves the right to discontinue the Service or to terminate or suspend your account at any time in its sole discretion for any reason, or for no reason.
So if someone does not login to their paid "lifetime" account (which is in good standing) within 12 months, Cryptic / PWE can just delete it?
Or just delete my paid "lifetime" subscription in good standing for any old reason, or even no reason at all?
===UPDATE FROM PWE_BRANFLAKES - 7/19/12===
Greetings Captains,
I've got an update for you
Please rest assured that because Gold accounts receive a monthly stipend, they will not be defined as "inactive" - receiving the stipend counts as activity. This applies to Lifetime Accounts as well as those with a recurring subscription plan.Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
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A lifetime "account" is a type of an "account", no?
Since our cryptic accounts have been assimilated by PWE our lifetime sub is attached to the new account. If they do delete the account your LTS would go with it.
The first clause is in there just for butt covering. The devs have said previously that there is no plan on doing that.
The second clause is found in all online agreements that I've seen. Again butt covering. I'm sure if you came here to the forums and started cursing everybody out and comparing the devs to well insert your favorite animal's behind quarters here, you would find yourself reading an email covering that clause. It's happened before.
Hacking as well as gold selling (if they ever start dealing with that) would be covered in the second clause as well.
That could be hard to do for some people.. Like a US soldier sent to Iraq for a 12 month tour.
But hey.. Who cares about US soldiers sent overseas... :rolleyes:
I believe they've already stated this won't happen
Have a spouse or family member log in?
Otherwise, most companies have similar ToS... you break their rules... chance for account deletion.. which would include LTS
I highly doubt this will happen at least not without reason... considering they want money.... we shelled out between $200 - $300 for our LTS... they know we have money
Yeah really. What a bunch of unpatriotic terrorists. :rolleyes:
It won't happen just like STO won't be going F2P right? LOL.
They already got the LTS cash. If they kill the account and the user creates a new one then they get more cash.. And if the user just walks away pissed PWE still keeps the LTS cash. Seems like a strong motive to me.
The second clause (or something like it) is pretty standard in ToS for online games, to make sure their backside is absolutely covered in case some smart git calls BBB on them when he's banned. Does it say anywhere that the account isn't actually the property of the player, regardless of what they are paying/have paid? Cos that's one I've seen a lot before.
The sky is not falling, people.
Yeah I mean if you haven't played the game for 12 months they probably just assume you aren't coming back.
I number of us came back for f2p who had been gone for over 12 months.
granted first thing I did was delete my old character.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
not PWE...
Join Date: Sep 2008
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: CHANGE THE FORUMS BACK !!!
Forum accounts and game accounts are not the same thing, that's why you had to choose different names in the migration. You have *three* accounts in their various databases now. The red text you highlighted has "Website administrator" right in it. You honestly believe the people paid to be in charge of the website have any power over the game servers? Do you believe they are even in the same cities?
Also, it's a MMO. They keep your data expressly for the purpose of luring you back at any time in the future. Threatening to remove it makes utterly no business sense, Chicken Little. But yes, legally, they need to be capable of doing it. Just like when the game gets shut down for good, you can't ask for your profile on a diskette.
Be that as it may be perceived by Cryptic and yourself, if we fall under the terms mentioned above, PWE doesn't appear to agree. There needs to be an 'unless a lifetime member' clause.
You do realize they have a whole section on "Account" in the TOS I linked right?
Perhaps you can point out where in that TOS it defines your 'forum account" being different from your "game account" in regards to deactivation due to inactivity?
actually if the so called soldier chooses he can have his rig sent to the base he will have R&R at and be able to get on for a little while when that happens but at most this is only a few hours at a time but at least it some time he he so chooses to do this , I knew a soldier that had his rig sent over seas with him and he would get on with the clan I was in at the time and play a few hours of BF 2142 with us when he had free time all tho the interrnet connection sucked he still tried to get on and play.
By the way I care what happens to our soldiers that go overseas.
That's why I mentioned that the CS team is looking into it
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
I look forward to your followup reply in this thread with the information you found from CS..
Either:
A) LTS accounts are not affected by the inactivity / "delete for any or no reason at all" policy and the TOS will be updated by the legal team ASAP
Or
Why must someone not interested in the game be bothered to do token logins for you?
If you are a paid LTS, it shouldn't matter how long ago you last logged in. What part of "Lifetime" do you not understand?