Wait a second...I thought that the Dev team could knock out a "refit" ship in a matter of days?
That was certainly suggested.
Isn't that what they said about the Fed refits?
It's been awhile since I read the comment, but I believe you have the gist of it yes.
They were only included because they finished them in such record time? So, how hard would it have been for the team - the ones that allegedly threw together 3 refits in just a few days - to give the Klingon faction a B'rel, a Vor'cha, and a D7 refit?
The suggestion was, it wouldn't have been very hard to do this klingon side.
Or how about at least fixing the Kar'Fi to make it viable in PvP?
This I think is a lost cause. The ship is functionally at odds with itself. So it's an uphill battle to get it viable and popular and useful all at once. But as noted above, shouldn't it have been easy street to make those refits for the other ships?
The KDF faction continues to shrink, and it's not for lack of players wanting to roll Klingon. It's because the writing is on the wall - the Devs don't give a toss about the KDF or those who play them. They exist only to serve the Fed player-base.
It's a frustrating grind coupled with gameplay bugs coupled with disorganized implementation of content coupled with gaping holes in the content that does exist.
Frustrating Grind: I get an exploration mission on my fed. It's kill 6 enemy squadrons. 6. It's kill 6 from Lt. level in Delta Volanis alllllll the way to B'Tran Elite.
I get the same type of mission as a klingon, it's kill 8.
The XP gain still seems off, and the mission parameters are harder for KDF. Even just that 2 extra kills per completion adds up over time.
Gameplay Bugs: PVP queues were borked and killed interest in PVP. This stuck around for weeks. Exploration Clusters are borked. And are kililng interest in PVE. That's pretty much the entirety of KDF gameplay, btw. So for the first couple of weeks of 2.0 being live, there was no real motivation to play a klingon since you couldn't PVP or PVE reliably.
Disorganized Implementation: Vendors selling phasers to the KDF, disruptors to Starfleet ... 2.0 story arc missions launch with no rewards, then get rewards added later, after people had done the missions ... Klingon Fleet Actions (I shouldn't have to into detail here, lol)
Gaping holes in Content: This goes beyond story arcs. This game hinges on customization but even basic customization is missing from so many parts of the KDF. Be it there's practically zero ship customization ... uniform gaps and problems ... or just plain lack of loot ... the KDF side suffers from being incomplete on so many things. The biggest example for me is ... 6 new levels get added, and on the fed side you open up a new uniform slot AND get a new uniform jacket. The KDF side? No new uniform option. And this happens in the patch that is supposedly FOCUSED on KDF improvements, and the patch where they finally had some people working on the KDF uniform customization for the first time ever. The people making Orion bikinis couldn't also make sure KDF VA's got a long coat? Really? That's either a gaping hole in content or poor organization! Either way, that sucks.
tier 6 is not going to be until 2011 for anyone at fleet admiral .
everyone will have retrofits. The entire new batch of ships are going to be
for the Klingon faction. The Klingon faction will actually have more ships than the feds when it is all said and done. ALl the ships will be getting the reworked BO seating.
The entire batch of ships - you are aware that the Federation are once again recieving more ships then the Klingons.
Yes, if you look at the quote in the original post from dstahl, it does state that the BOFF layout for the Excelsior is going to be a model for future and past ships....but to be honest, I have to place my vote along with others in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category.
Secondly, there is a key difference between the Klingon Carrier BOFF configuration and the Excelsior...like the fact that the Klingon Carrier has no Commander slot, for one thing. That means no level four abilities. The Excelsior does have a Commander slot...
Look -- the key here is really not the new ships. I know that this thread initially started about that...but this thread is about something else -- and that is the fact that there is a HUGE disparity of gameplay, options, and generally, fun things to do between the two factions that make up the game. There is a certain amount of grim pride in playing Klingon, because anyone who gets to LTG as a Klingon really did work to get there. Constant grinding...constant PvP. That rank is truly earned and is much harder to reach than the Federation counterpart. Shoot - my Fed VA has more "undone" missions than the entire Klingon PvE content within the game, and he did not start PvPing until he reached VA!. Also, and I know that I am preaching to the choir here, but there are entire aspects of the game that are missing from the Klingon side. Crafting, the Dabo and element/scan mini-games, the Diplomatic Corps career path, etc. The Klingon faction, should, in a perfect world, have equivalency in each of these areas.
And to be honest...I see more and more the argument that STO is about the Federation, and any other faction should always come in second place. That type of argument is one that I find irritating in that I view it as a sub-segment of the player base that wishes to limit my playstyle and gameplay options because their particular faction is somehow superior to everyone else. That smacks of arrogance and bigotry, which I do not think should belong in this game. The other argument is that Cryptic has to pay attention to the money factor...and in terms of subscriptions, the money is with the Federation. That does make sense to me...but on the other hand, I would also rationally think that by having stronger opposing factions, you are expanding the play experience for your players in general -- and not pandering to a specific player base. In this sense, it is all about options...and right now I can't think of very many reasons for the average Federation player to even try out Klingon because the gameplay is nowhere near as "rich" as the Federation experience.
Oh well. I guess we will see what the future will hold, I guess. I do realize that the "new" BOFF model is supposed to be exported to all of the Tier 5 ships eventually....we will have to see what form that takes with the Klingon ships I guess, if it ever does indeed happen...but in the meantime, my opinion is that the Excelsior is probably going to be the most advanced ship in the game, bar none. No other ship in the game -- on either side -- will have the skill sets and abilities that will be available to the Excelsior, and yes, that includes the Klingon Carriers, which in terms of combat capability, are questionable in comparison to Federation cruisers in any case. No offense, carrier drivers, but I think that you would be the first to admit that you might as well have huge bulls-eyes painted on your hull.
And to be honest...I see more and more the argument that STO is about the Federation, and any other faction should always come in second place.
Since I used to champion this point quite a bit, I'll try to explain it. And then explain why I no longer feel it applies anymore.
The federation started out with more stuff. That's the simplest way to put it. There was a gap. And I don't think any faction will ever be able to overcome that gap.
Partly because as time goes on, the feds will get more stuff. And partly because the source material has more fed stuff to draw on.
So, just using arbitrary numbers, the game launched and the feds were at 5. And the KDF were at 1.
A disparity of 4.
I felt that as long as the game moved forward equally from there, this disparity was fine. Because it represented the focus the shows had on fed stuff.
So I thought when the federation was at 10, the KDF would be at 6. Still a disparity of 4. Still a gap that might never be overcome.
BUT ... that's not how things went. By the time the KDF gets to 6, the federation is going to be at 15 ... 20 ... 25. The gap is getting wider. And that's where ...
I was wrong.
Yup. Wrong.
It hit home with me in 2.0.
They added an entire new level band. But it was disorganized. Incomplete. There's loot issues, exploration issues, so many issues.
And the one that still bugs me a lot is ... Feds get an Admiral's coat. For free. For levelling.
KDF gets ...
Nothing.
They SHOULD get the long coat of a General. It's part of the shows. It's part of the canon. It's part of the flavor of the Klingons.
Instead, they got nothing. Incomplete.
Which shows me that as we move forward, the gap's not only still there ... it's getting bigger. Because things aren't moving forward in an equitable or organized way. The federation having the bigger focus I could understand. But it's gone too far.
Look -- the key here is really not the new ships. I know that this thread initially started about that...but this thread is about something else -- and that is the fact that there is a HUGE disparity of gameplay, options, and generally, fun things to do between the two factions that make up the game. .
My point that yes, the Federation is the focal point of STO, but we klingons would like some addition to our side as well- more than what appears to be scraps- when they give you guys new stuff and missions. I would like them to express the fact that we are being kept in mind more from an update expression there of, than promises.
All i can say is get use to this treatment or switch side. I hate to say it that way but its true. Klingon content keeps getting put on the back burner to make room for things Fed side, I mean hell our loot tables still drop tons of aid the planet junk when we have NO use for it, we have no crafting system (Not that we really want that one anyway), Nothing like the Diplomacy function, and our ship count is way out numbered. If this was an actual 'War' we would have lost a long time ago, much less put up a fight.
Again all i can say is get use to it. I dont see things ever being close to what the Feds have currently, hey we may be surprised but I wouldent bank on it.
Sad part is the only reason I came to play STO in the first place was to play Klingons (I liked them better than Starfleet anyway) now I'm playing Feds because thats where all the updates/content are going.
This is why when your BOP with a mere 4 station Boff comes out of cloak and unloads with 15 buffs and all weapons blazing doesn't even dent the rear shields on that Feddie cruiser- when it should evaporate it.
Feddies are underpowered PVP'rs who think they are uber because they are in ships that a TRIBBLE German shepard could win in.
I played in my Feddie admiral lower half alt (engineer cruiser) in a PVP match the other night, and it took all 5 of the Klingons to take me down- at once- without any healing from my idiot Feddie teammates who were dropping like flies.
The reason we Klingons don't get decent ships or gear is because the devs know what would happen...half the population would never set foot in a PVP match again out of fear of the KDF.
This is why when your BOP with a mere 4 station Boff comes out of cloak and unloads with 15 buffs and all weapons blazing doesn't even dent the rear shields on that Feddie cruiser- when it should evaporate it.
Feddies are underpowered PVP'rs who think they are uber because they are in ships that a TRIBBLE German shepard could win in.
I played in my Feddie admiral lower half alt (engineer cruiser) in a PVP match the other night, and it took all 5 of the Klingons to take me down- at once- without any healing from my idiot Feddie teammates who were dropping like flies.
The reason we Klingons don't get decent ships or gear is because the devs know what would happen...half the population would never set foot in a PVP match again out of fear of the KDF.
Q'pla!
Well said,
We always hear the same old arguements that feds are the majority so they get more stuff etc etc.
Ok yes Feds are the majority and most of them are noobs.
Having said that though STO subscriptions are not based on pay per invidual side, If you have a sub you are entitled to play both fed and klinks, had Cryptic balanced the content for both sides you'd be seeing a more even population split probablly like 60% fed 40% klink
Which would be much better than we are seeing now when its like 80% fed 20 % klink.
Crytpic didn't balanced the content they stacked it all on the fed side and tried to justify it by saying that Feds are the majority. They are only the majority because you stacked the content on that side.
1) Feds have most of the PVE content
2) Feds have more ships more costums more races more skins more customization just more everything ok
3) Feds are getting unbalanced refits and klinks are still waiting for one decent one.
So given the choice the casual non hardcore sto player logs in to play which side is he/she going to devote their time to.
Of course its going to be feds its like having to choose between a big mac and a cheseburger.
Thanks to Cryptic for not giving the klinks any love now theres even less reasons for casual and regulars to play klingon and consquently we have a catch 22 situation. You will never have equal content for Klingons without an even amount of subs playing them and you will never have a even amount of subs playing them without equal content.
Cryptic are geniuses lol they implemented the perfect ruse for undeveloping Star Trek Online and turning it into Federation Online. Making it one giant multiplayer PVE game with a few hardcore people left to entertain the masses of Fed noobs in PVP with superior skills and always having the odds stacked against them.
I can guarantee you and you saw it in this post first that you will never see any Romulan playable faction in this game at the rate things are going, I mean why bother because no one is going to play Roms anyway right :rolleyes:
Secondly, there is a key difference between the Klingon Carrier BOFF configuration and the Excelsior...like the fact that the Klingon Carrier has no Commander slot, for one thing. That means no level four abilities. The Excelsior does have a Commander slot...
The VoQuv has a Commander Sci. The Shipyard info box is incorrect.
I just have one thing to say about this thread as a klingon myself and ill quote former chancellor gowron for this
'A good warrior find a way to beat the odds'
Now this Excelsior is packing some heat but are we as klingons going to moan about it or face them in battle and do as we normally do destroy them.
remember the galaxcy x the out cry and we won that battle and now another battle and the victory will be sweet as a jum ja stick.
plus dont forget what the devs have said we are getting lots of new ships and the BO slots are being switched around so tonight lets drink and drown in the blood of fed captains and there new ships
they are listening to their wallets. Feds out number Klingon's in many ways. Feds will spend the crazy money.
Cryptic prices Feds say when can I buy it. Thats the fan base the cash cow. No contest their.
Money makes the game get all these things players want. Ships also have to go through a process that isn't always quick but to delay the retrofits and seriously delay a season isn't fair to the majority.
The Game has a serious Fed majority and that just what it is. So I can't blame them for doing what works for the majority. Strength in numbers. I look around and I don't see that with the Klingon faction. I'm on Both sides and I see a few but mostly empty space. Sad I like my Klingon.
Maybe if there was more klingon content (i.e. other alliance race ships, episodes, etc...) there would not be such an overwhelming majority of Fed players and things would be more balanced, then Cryptic could listen to their wallets from both sides. But as things stand, there is a constant flow of more and more Fed content, resulting in fewer and fewer people who desire to spend their time playing the neglected faction.
On a more important note, I think Cryptic should put a bit more effort into debugging things instead of seeing how they can nickle and dime people next via the c-store. There are some bugs still hanging around that I've been reporting since beta, but instead we now have "formal wear" for Feds.
I just have one thing to say about this thread as a klingon myself and ill quote former chancellor gowron for this
'A good warrior find a way to beat the odds'
Now this Excelsior is packing some heat but are we as klingons going to moan about it or face them in battle and do as we normally do destroy them.
remember the galaxcy x the out cry and we won that battle and now another battle and the victory will be sweet as a jum ja stick.
plus dont forget what the devs have said we are getting lots of new ships and the BO slots are being switched around so tonight lets drink and drown in the blood of fed captains and there new ships
MMMM spoken like a true klingon......klingons don't care what ship it is, as it will still blow up with a well placed torpedo. If it bleeds we can kill it. After all,
Current Score - 8 Federation Ships to the Klingon's 4 Ships.
Maybe we should make a full comparison of every ship/skin the Federation has with the Klingons? On second thought, that would just be redundant.
Update: There is also info on them receiving the Nebula class slated for some time in September.
We also know about a Gorn ship and a B'rel Retrofit (which will apparently fire while cloaked). I don't know why these aren't on the Engineering Report, we even know that the B'rel has been in testing, and is beyond just a concept.
The systems designers are looking into this. I've heard rumblings of it can fire torpedos while cloaked. Not sure when the are going to start testing this - but I've heard it is something they are looking into.
100 % agree, no evidence aka screenshots, so it didn't happen. End fo the line fore me. Before I see no hard clues that there will be upgrads, the Federation regurlarly get them, I will no lonber believe in either the Engineering report oder Dev posts.
Dstahl claims to be a former SFC player, if he was then he should remember that the during the SFC1/2 days it was not the feds who usally won the ladder tournements. It was the Klingons and pirates even witht the fed uber ship (BCF) and there were more non-fed players then there was feds.
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That was certainly suggested.
It's been awhile since I read the comment, but I believe you have the gist of it yes.
The suggestion was, it wouldn't have been very hard to do this klingon side.
This I think is a lost cause. The ship is functionally at odds with itself. So it's an uphill battle to get it viable and popular and useful all at once. But as noted above, shouldn't it have been easy street to make those refits for the other ships?
It's a frustrating grind coupled with gameplay bugs coupled with disorganized implementation of content coupled with gaping holes in the content that does exist.
Frustrating Grind: I get an exploration mission on my fed. It's kill 6 enemy squadrons. 6. It's kill 6 from Lt. level in Delta Volanis alllllll the way to B'Tran Elite.
I get the same type of mission as a klingon, it's kill 8.
The XP gain still seems off, and the mission parameters are harder for KDF. Even just that 2 extra kills per completion adds up over time.
Gameplay Bugs: PVP queues were borked and killed interest in PVP. This stuck around for weeks. Exploration Clusters are borked. And are kililng interest in PVE. That's pretty much the entirety of KDF gameplay, btw. So for the first couple of weeks of 2.0 being live, there was no real motivation to play a klingon since you couldn't PVP or PVE reliably.
Disorganized Implementation: Vendors selling phasers to the KDF, disruptors to Starfleet ... 2.0 story arc missions launch with no rewards, then get rewards added later, after people had done the missions ... Klingon Fleet Actions (I shouldn't have to into detail here, lol)
Gaping holes in Content: This goes beyond story arcs. This game hinges on customization but even basic customization is missing from so many parts of the KDF. Be it there's practically zero ship customization ... uniform gaps and problems ... or just plain lack of loot ... the KDF side suffers from being incomplete on so many things. The biggest example for me is ... 6 new levels get added, and on the fed side you open up a new uniform slot AND get a new uniform jacket. The KDF side? No new uniform option. And this happens in the patch that is supposedly FOCUSED on KDF improvements, and the patch where they finally had some people working on the KDF uniform customization for the first time ever. The people making Orion bikinis couldn't also make sure KDF VA's got a long coat? Really? That's either a gaping hole in content or poor organization! Either way, that sucks.
The entire batch of ships - you are aware that the Federation are once again recieving more ships then the Klingons.
Federation
◦Vulcan Faction Ship
◦TOS Enterprise Refit
◦Andorian Faction Ship
◦Enterprise J
◦Enterprise NX
*Excelsior T3
*Excelsior T5 "Lakota"
*Nebula
Klingons
◦Vor'cha Refit
◦Orion Faction Ship
◦Nausicaan Faction Ship
◦New Crytpic Design - Klingon Ship
Current Score - 8 Federation Ships to the Klingon's 4 Ships.
Maybe we should make a full comparison of every ship/skin the Federation has with the Klingons? On second thought, that would just be redundant.
Update: There is also info on them receiving the Nebula class slated for some time in September.
Last I heard, mid-September.
Thanks, will update the list.
Isn't this similar to the Carrier (except Carriers are Science focused)?
-Auspice
Yes, if you look at the quote in the original post from dstahl, it does state that the BOFF layout for the Excelsior is going to be a model for future and past ships....but to be honest, I have to place my vote along with others in the "I'll believe it when I see it" category.
Secondly, there is a key difference between the Klingon Carrier BOFF configuration and the Excelsior...like the fact that the Klingon Carrier has no Commander slot, for one thing. That means no level four abilities. The Excelsior does have a Commander slot...
Look -- the key here is really not the new ships. I know that this thread initially started about that...but this thread is about something else -- and that is the fact that there is a HUGE disparity of gameplay, options, and generally, fun things to do between the two factions that make up the game. There is a certain amount of grim pride in playing Klingon, because anyone who gets to LTG as a Klingon really did work to get there. Constant grinding...constant PvP. That rank is truly earned and is much harder to reach than the Federation counterpart. Shoot - my Fed VA has more "undone" missions than the entire Klingon PvE content within the game, and he did not start PvPing until he reached VA!. Also, and I know that I am preaching to the choir here, but there are entire aspects of the game that are missing from the Klingon side. Crafting, the Dabo and element/scan mini-games, the Diplomatic Corps career path, etc. The Klingon faction, should, in a perfect world, have equivalency in each of these areas.
And to be honest...I see more and more the argument that STO is about the Federation, and any other faction should always come in second place. That type of argument is one that I find irritating in that I view it as a sub-segment of the player base that wishes to limit my playstyle and gameplay options because their particular faction is somehow superior to everyone else. That smacks of arrogance and bigotry, which I do not think should belong in this game. The other argument is that Cryptic has to pay attention to the money factor...and in terms of subscriptions, the money is with the Federation. That does make sense to me...but on the other hand, I would also rationally think that by having stronger opposing factions, you are expanding the play experience for your players in general -- and not pandering to a specific player base. In this sense, it is all about options...and right now I can't think of very many reasons for the average Federation player to even try out Klingon because the gameplay is nowhere near as "rich" as the Federation experience.
Oh well. I guess we will see what the future will hold, I guess. I do realize that the "new" BOFF model is supposed to be exported to all of the Tier 5 ships eventually....we will have to see what form that takes with the Klingon ships I guess, if it ever does indeed happen...but in the meantime, my opinion is that the Excelsior is probably going to be the most advanced ship in the game, bar none. No other ship in the game -- on either side -- will have the skill sets and abilities that will be available to the Excelsior, and yes, that includes the Klingon Carriers, which in terms of combat capability, are questionable in comparison to Federation cruisers in any case. No offense, carrier drivers, but I think that you would be the first to admit that you might as well have huge bulls-eyes painted on your hull.
Since I used to champion this point quite a bit, I'll try to explain it. And then explain why I no longer feel it applies anymore.
The federation started out with more stuff. That's the simplest way to put it. There was a gap. And I don't think any faction will ever be able to overcome that gap.
Partly because as time goes on, the feds will get more stuff. And partly because the source material has more fed stuff to draw on.
So, just using arbitrary numbers, the game launched and the feds were at 5. And the KDF were at 1.
A disparity of 4.
I felt that as long as the game moved forward equally from there, this disparity was fine. Because it represented the focus the shows had on fed stuff.
So I thought when the federation was at 10, the KDF would be at 6. Still a disparity of 4. Still a gap that might never be overcome.
BUT ... that's not how things went. By the time the KDF gets to 6, the federation is going to be at 15 ... 20 ... 25. The gap is getting wider. And that's where ...
I was wrong.
Yup. Wrong.
It hit home with me in 2.0.
They added an entire new level band. But it was disorganized. Incomplete. There's loot issues, exploration issues, so many issues.
And the one that still bugs me a lot is ... Feds get an Admiral's coat. For free. For levelling.
KDF gets ...
Nothing.
They SHOULD get the long coat of a General. It's part of the shows. It's part of the canon. It's part of the flavor of the Klingons.
Instead, they got nothing. Incomplete.
Which shows me that as we move forward, the gap's not only still there ... it's getting bigger. Because things aren't moving forward in an equitable or organized way. The federation having the bigger focus I could understand. But it's gone too far.
I was wrong. And I see that now.
My point that yes, the Federation is the focal point of STO, but we klingons would like some addition to our side as well- more than what appears to be scraps- when they give you guys new stuff and missions. I would like them to express the fact that we are being kept in mind more from an update expression there of, than promises.
Again all i can say is get use to it. I dont see things ever being close to what the Feds have currently, hey we may be surprised but I wouldent bank on it.
Sad part is the only reason I came to play STO in the first place was to play Klingons (I liked them better than Starfleet anyway) now I'm playing Feds because thats where all the updates/content are going.
Feddies are underpowered PVP'rs who think they are uber because they are in ships that a TRIBBLE German shepard could win in.
I played in my Feddie admiral lower half alt (engineer cruiser) in a PVP match the other night, and it took all 5 of the Klingons to take me down- at once- without any healing from my idiot Feddie teammates who were dropping like flies.
The reason we Klingons don't get decent ships or gear is because the devs know what would happen...half the population would never set foot in a PVP match again out of fear of the KDF.
Q'pla!
Well said,
We always hear the same old arguements that feds are the majority so they get more stuff etc etc.
Ok yes Feds are the majority and most of them are noobs.
Having said that though STO subscriptions are not based on pay per invidual side, If you have a sub you are entitled to play both fed and klinks, had Cryptic balanced the content for both sides you'd be seeing a more even population split probablly like 60% fed 40% klink
Which would be much better than we are seeing now when its like 80% fed 20 % klink.
Crytpic didn't balanced the content they stacked it all on the fed side and tried to justify it by saying that Feds are the majority. They are only the majority because you stacked the content on that side.
1) Feds have most of the PVE content
2) Feds have more ships more costums more races more skins more customization just more everything ok
3) Feds are getting unbalanced refits and klinks are still waiting for one decent one.
So given the choice the casual non hardcore sto player logs in to play which side is he/she going to devote their time to.
Of course its going to be feds its like having to choose between a big mac and a cheseburger.
Thanks to Cryptic for not giving the klinks any love now theres even less reasons for casual and regulars to play klingon and consquently we have a catch 22 situation. You will never have equal content for Klingons without an even amount of subs playing them and you will never have a even amount of subs playing them without equal content.
Cryptic are geniuses lol they implemented the perfect ruse for undeveloping Star Trek Online and turning it into Federation Online. Making it one giant multiplayer PVE game with a few hardcore people left to entertain the masses of Fed noobs in PVP with superior skills and always having the odds stacked against them.
I can guarantee you and you saw it in this post first that you will never see any Romulan playable faction in this game at the rate things are going, I mean why bother because no one is going to play Roms anyway right :rolleyes:
"Which Klingon Empire Ship do you want available at higher ranks?"
"Which "Official" Starship would you most like to see added?"
See the difference?
The one on Klingon ships asks which one should be added.
The one with Starfleet ships asks which one would people like to see most.
Sounds to me like there was no real intention to add more than one for the Klingons.
Should have really caught that earlier.
Stupid me...
VoQuv:
LtC Tac
LtC Eng
Com Sci
Lt Sci
'A good warrior find a way to beat the odds'
Now this Excelsior is packing some heat but are we as klingons going to moan about it or face them in battle and do as we normally do destroy them.
remember the galaxcy x the out cry and we won that battle and now another battle and the victory will be sweet as a jum ja stick.
plus dont forget what the devs have said we are getting lots of new ships and the BO slots are being switched around so tonight lets drink and drown in the blood of fed captains and there new ships
Maybe if there was more klingon content (i.e. other alliance race ships, episodes, etc...) there would not be such an overwhelming majority of Fed players and things would be more balanced, then Cryptic could listen to their wallets from both sides. But as things stand, there is a constant flow of more and more Fed content, resulting in fewer and fewer people who desire to spend their time playing the neglected faction.
On a more important note, I think Cryptic should put a bit more effort into debugging things instead of seeing how they can nickle and dime people next via the c-store. There are some bugs still hanging around that I've been reporting since beta, but instead we now have "formal wear" for Feds.
you are correct, sir. the box is a lie!
btw i think it's great the feds get a new- whatever kinda ship you sed it was.
something new to CC while we pick off escorts
MMMM spoken like a true klingon......klingons don't care what ship it is, as it will still blow up with a well placed torpedo. If it bleeds we can kill it. After all,
Even when battle is bad, it is good.
We also know about a Gorn ship and a B'rel Retrofit (which will apparently fire while cloaked). I don't know why these aren't on the Engineering Report, we even know that the B'rel has been in testing, and is beyond just a concept.
It's not a Cryptic design, it's Chang's Bird-of-Prey from The Undiscovered Country. It was a prototype B'rel that could cloak while fired.
Dstahl has talked about fire while cloaked several times but we have no idea whether or not its going to be a chang bop.
I'm not opposed to a chang BOP, i'm just saying - there's no indication its a B'Rel refit.
Dstahl's response to a thread asking for a B'rel Retrofit that cloaked:
Also, it seems unlikely that they'd include a cloaking Bird-of-Prey and not use the canonical ship that did that.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2986322#post2986322