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My fellow Klingons.
On Thursday, the paradigm between the balance of power with the Federation -- which was always tenuous at best -- will change.
Over the course of the last couple of months, we have seen massive advances in ship technology on the Federation side. We have held our own up til now, but tomorrow, that will change.
I know that Federation players routinely monitor this forum, and I know that the first thing that will happen is that one or more will post in here and state a case as to why there is nothing to worry about...
But, my friends, take a look at the latest Federation ship -- the Excelsior -- due to roll out tomorrow.
Yes, it is a T5 cruiser -- termed an Advanced Cruiser Retrofit -- which will make it a very tough opponent in the right hands, but that is not what makes it dangerous.
The BOFF configuration -- a LTC Tac, LTC Sci, LT Eng, Comm Eng. The consoles are also sweet. Two Sci, Three Tac, Four Eng.
Here is the Dev post (dstahl) regarding the Excelsior, which was posted at 12:30 AM today:
This beast will be extremely powerful -- and as of right now, we have nothing to match it.
In another thread, dstahl stated that this is really how BOFF configurations were envisioned to work...and that we can expect to see ship BOFF configurations changed in the near future to be closer to this standard.
I am not saying that this is the end of the Empire...but it is another nail in the coffin. As improvements continue to roll out for the other side, Klingon representation gets weaker and weaker. The promised ships we were going to get have been pushed back...maybe to Season 3 (possibly November).
I would really, really like to be proved wrong. Hopefully, I am, and maybe there is an Easter Egg or two waiting for us on Thursday as well....but I sort of doubt it.
We will see.
Update: I forgot to mention...the Nebula was slated to be released at the same time as the Excelsior...but I have not seen anything definitive on it yet for a Thursday release -- the Feds are all gushing over the upcoming Excelsior refit. It will be interesting to see if this vessel also ships as well Thursday, and what its BOFF/console configuration will be.
On Thursday, the paradigm between the balance of power with the Federation -- which was always tenuous at best -- will change.
Over the course of the last couple of months, we have seen massive advances in ship technology on the Federation side. We have held our own up til now, but tomorrow, that will change.
I know that Federation players routinely monitor this forum, and I know that the first thing that will happen is that one or more will post in here and state a case as to why there is nothing to worry about...
But, my friends, take a look at the latest Federation ship -- the Excelsior -- due to roll out tomorrow.
Yes, it is a T5 cruiser -- termed an Advanced Cruiser Retrofit -- which will make it a very tough opponent in the right hands, but that is not what makes it dangerous.
The BOFF configuration -- a LTC Tac, LTC Sci, LT Eng, Comm Eng. The consoles are also sweet. Two Sci, Three Tac, Four Eng.
Here is the Dev post (dstahl) regarding the Excelsior, which was posted at 12:30 AM today:
The T5 has always been scheduled for Thursday, the T3 was going to come out on Tuesday, but there were some discussions about changing configs on the Excelsior and so it was moved to a Thursday push along with the T5
Btw..
Here's the latest write up I could find for the Excelsior (CAVEAT - THIS ISN'T FINAL UNTIL IT SHIPS)
A retrofit of the iconic Excelsior class as seen in Star Trek: Generations, this ship has the weapons and power needed to tackle anything from a training cruise in the Sol system to a race to the Galactic Barrier. The Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit has eight weapons slots (4 fore, 4 aft), seats for four Bridge Officers (Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Engineering, Lt. Engineering, and Lieutenant Commander Science) and space for nine console modifications (4 Engineering, 3 Tactical, 2 Science). It carries a crew of 750 and features a Transwarp Drive that can be activated in system space for rapid travel to the Alpha Centauri, Sirius, Regulus, Pi Canis, Psi Velorum, Iota Pavonis, Eta Eridani, Beta Ursae and Alpha Trianguli Sector Blocks. Note: This ship may only be purchased by Federation captains that have attained Rear Admiral or higher rank. Purchasing this ship from the C-Store unlocks this ship with the "Enterprise-B" ship costume as well as the classic "Excelsior" ship costume for all Federation Rear Admirals on an account.
This beast will be extremely powerful -- and as of right now, we have nothing to match it.
In another thread, dstahl stated that this is really how BOFF configurations were envisioned to work...and that we can expect to see ship BOFF configurations changed in the near future to be closer to this standard.
I am not saying that this is the end of the Empire...but it is another nail in the coffin. As improvements continue to roll out for the other side, Klingon representation gets weaker and weaker. The promised ships we were going to get have been pushed back...maybe to Season 3 (possibly November).
I would really, really like to be proved wrong. Hopefully, I am, and maybe there is an Easter Egg or two waiting for us on Thursday as well....but I sort of doubt it.
We will see.
Update: I forgot to mention...the Nebula was slated to be released at the same time as the Excelsior...but I have not seen anything definitive on it yet for a Thursday release -- the Feds are all gushing over the upcoming Excelsior refit. It will be interesting to see if this vessel also ships as well Thursday, and what its BOFF/console configuration will be.
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I am on both sides and I think its a fair ship for them to have.
The bird of prey has similar if not a better setup.
You also forgot to mention the T3 version of the ship.
This one will be what most are flying at first.
The Klingon side will get more ships very soon.
The excelsior is a way for cryptic to make lots of cash.
feds are whats driving the game cash wise.
I won't worry about the ship.
Not a game changer but its a real VA1 ship not like the tier 4 retrofits
most of those are a joke.
If you had read more threads you would have also read where the big boss man had a discussion with the devs on eventually reworking the config on all ships with the excelsior being the mold to go off of. this will include all exsisting ships fed and kling. Although it will be a few months down the road before the rework is in solid print.
I don't have the thread to refer to ATM however if i run accross it, I'll edit this with the link to it. Or you can dig through the many excelsior thread titles and will likely find it. Actually it might be in the tribble release thread....hmmmm
Will have to dig er out, still good news for both sides if this comes to fruition.
Now you've done it... Now you have to send it to me as well.
Ya right
This ship is nothing more than an assault cruiser with a new transwarp add on
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=177149&page=2
Really?Is this offiial?So we will get the t5 klingon refits when the feds get t6 ships?:eek:
edit:if this is true you can as well not bother with the t5 refits,start working on the t6 klingon ships instead imo
pooooooned
tier 6 is not going to be until 2011 for anyone at fleet admiral .
everyone will have retrofits. The entire new batch of ships are going to be
for the Klingon faction. The Klingon faction will actually have more ships than the feds when it is all said and done. ALl the ships will be getting the reworked BO seating.
ok so you say where is the proof .. or my suspecting that your a cryptic flunkie peddeling there lies
will remain till i either see all these new kling ships & BO layouts.
Secondly there are a few interviews where this was stated as well as the revamping of Bo slots.
One thing needs to be remembered here. Star trek is about the Federation and everything else is a supporting partner to tell the story of Star Trek. While this game needs major flushing in many ways to make it balanced and fair for everyone who is playing. Things are much better than they were at launch.
The game has a new directions and changes are being made to fix this.
If you don't agree than there is nothing anyone can do but the proof is in the pudding.
If the weekly episodes weren't pushed back and pvp worked. things would be a little better.
they are listening to their wallets. Feds out number Klingon's in many ways. Feds will spend the crazy money.
Cryptic prices Feds say when can I buy it. Thats the fan base the cash cow. No contest their.
Money makes the game get all these things players want. Ships also have to go through a process that isn't always quick but to delay the retrofits and seriously delay a season isn't fair to the majority.
The Game has a serious Fed majority and that just what it is. So I can't blame them for doing what works for the majority. Strength in numbers. I look around and I don't see that with the Klingon faction. I'm on Both sides and I see a few but mostly empty space. Sad I like my Klingon.
yep as i guessed just another cryptic flunkie peddeling there lies run away home feddybear run away home .
this section are for those that play klingon not klingon wanna be feddybears.
Sorry but enough is enough cryptic lie to a segment of the game playing population to the point that more or less the mail klingon players have quit in disgust.
cryptic id be willing to take a refund of say 60% of what i paid if you give me that you can delete my account & then we would all be happy.
I personally think they shoulda gone 4/3 on the weapons, if its good enough for the Gal-X its good enough for the Lakota.
Though if they are going to change the layout model for Boffs then the T5 BoP will benefit from a Com/LTC/LTC/LT arrangement in my opinion and thats fine with me.
Hint: FvK matches will not pop more often then they do now.
The Excelsior and Nebula are announced longer than the Klingon faction ships, IIRC. So it's no surprise ot me they come sooner, too. No matter how hard we're wishing for something, it doesn't change the way things went into the pipeline.
More fleshed out means that the whole faction will be left far behind?From what I see the gap grows with every update.If they want to bring it up to par with the feds they are doing it wrong.Not having PvE content is 1 thing(I knew this before I made a klingon toon but I dont care about PvE anyway) but not getting our new ships is something what really starts to bother me(now a month after season 2 and still nothing,we dont even know when we get them anymore,last time they said we get them in late august,looks like not).My galaxy refit is godly compared to my old assault cruiser,you can easily say that it is a tier 6 ship the difference is THAT big.
Yeah a few months later(to make sure that lots of players will buy the excelsior).
The klingon ships were supposed to come with s2.It should be top priority.To be honest they shouldnt even release a major update until both factions ships are there(if it comes with new ships).Waiting 1 month is ok,more is unacceptable(especially when I see that they keep adding new fed ships when they already got a refit version of every ship class and we are stuck with the useless burning fish which has no special abilities like all the other refits).
Probalby hit the C-store in time for Christmas- to boost the c-store sales.
Still forgot to put the :P emote in my statement.
Also doesn't mean that I too don't feel the sting of being the redheaded step-faction, but at some point one has to wonder why we got one ship in all the time since launch and the Feds got how many so far?
Its depressing and doesn't build confidence for promises from the Dev's for the future.
At this point as a Klingon my philosophy is , "I'll believe it when I eventually see it."
Doesn't mean I'll stop playing- just means I know where Klingon seem to stand in the Dev's eyes and one can get to used to disapointment if one encounters it enough.
I don't know how often I posted that hey should rename this game Starfleet Online, as this is what it is about. There is not much for being Klingon as all the goodies go to the Federation side.
here to the klingon gameplay forums and try to tell us "Hey dont worry its no biggie" although if it
were reversed the fed whine that would rise up would sound like a 747 ready for take off.
We the klingon faction were suppose to be getting all these new nifty refits around the end of august,
Well here we are at the end of august and quess what we have nothing, But wait the feds get yet
another ship wow big surprise.
But we klingons wont worry we know this is how it works and we will soldier on as always and still
come out on top even with our limited selection of ships because we are klingon and we adapt and we
will again against this new slap in the face, Im just tired of these feds posting on our fourms so please
go away and figure out what kind of whine you will come up with next to try and keep the Klingons
down....
The Galaxy ... I lost count. At least four times I think? The Sov? Like twice.
But your point is still extremely valid. They should have had something ... anything ... even a screenshot or whatever ... just an update ... by the end of August. And new KDF Retrofits or whatever, should be ready to go in with the Nebula. That'd have been a workable deadline. But ...
/sigh
Perhaps it time to show our outrage again on the main forum to be heard.
Or how about at least fixing the Kar'Fi to make it viable in PvP?
We don't even get table scraps any more? We've sunk that low? The KDF faction continues to shrink, and it's not for lack of players wanting to roll Klingon. It's because the writing is on the wall - the Devs don't give a toss about the KDF or those who play them. They exist only to serve the Fed player-base.
I look forward to flying a refit B'rel someday...hopefully it won't be too long after the Feds get their Enterprise-J, Risa swimwear and playable Mugato species...