I did, however, fight for (and get!) tech that allows me to give different dialogue to the KDF and Starfleet. In the weekly episodes, you'll find that each side has a different reason for helping the Deferi, for example.
That's honestly great. I hope that's a part of all future facytion agnostic content so that (if and when you guys are able to add other factions) the story text can be a bit more tailored to suit each faction.
3 Dev posts in the Klingon forum in 2 days: the "end" truly must be near! Seriously though, I challenge any Devs reading to reply in more than one thread
OK, that's simple. Please do not fish/beg/plead for dev posts. And we do read many, many things without replying to everything. If I replied to every thread I'd read, that's all I'd do.
(Bonus tip: I stop reading a thread any time I see the word "petition." They're against the forum rules, and annoying besides.)
Will I wade into a ragefest? Not normally. I find that people are more intent on saying AAARRRRUUUGHHHH!!!! I'M ANGRY!!!!! ON THE INTERNET!!!! than actually providing feedback and/or having a reasonable discussion. (Although being called an "incompetent cupcake" has been a highlight of my year. )
Now onto the topic at hand ...
I will totally agree with you that the KDF needs more ships, customization, items, stories, etc. It's a process. We're working on it!
We have a small team. Not everything can be done *immediately.* (For example, I'm the only writer on the project, and I'm cross-training in content design so I can help add some things that wouldn't get done otherwise.)
The producers set the schedules, and Dstahl and his crew have to balance everything that everybody wants and figure out how to get the most out of the time and resources available.
Episodes take a lot of manhours from multiple people. (me, content designers, artists, combat designers, maybe software if new tech is involved) So it makes sense to consider content that either faction can play, like the new weekly and high-level Episodes.
I did, however, fight for (and get!) tech that allows me to give different dialogue to the KDF and Starfleet. In the weekly episodes, you'll find that each side has a different reason for helping the Deferi, for example.
I think Season 2 is turning out pretty great. The Klingon-only Episodes are some of my favorites, and I hope I get to do more, because I have more KDF stories that I want to tell. Season 3 is shaping up to be cool as well, and we should be adding more things that players have been asking for.
Ok so your read these thread HUM well I am not going to complain, but what I will say is how did you all miss the number one issue raised in these thread LIKE fix PvP. Most klingon wanted PVP fixed over content yet even in your post you said content takes a lot of man hours. So wouldnt it of made more sense to fix PvP over adding a few storyline content that will only be for different levels at different time exp. for them neutral content. I dont know but it make logical sense that pvp would of gave you the best bang for your buck.
*immediately.*
I am sure no one here believe you can do anything immediately you all prove that exp. Produce four fed ships in a mouth. We KDF know how you feel we as well are a small team and are annoyed.
AAARRRRUUUGHHHH!!!! I'M ANGRY!!!!! ON THE INTERNET!!! Yes this goes on a lot, but in defense of the klingon forum there have been more suggestion then this and to point out this was not the atmosphere around here until resent.
Now onto the topic at hand ...
I will totally agree with you that the KDF needs more ships this would be taken more seriously by the klingon community if we havent had the same sense launch as we watch the feds get more then the can handle.
Sorry for the rant but maybe next time you read a post that annoyes you will understand were it come from not to defend all post because you cant please all.
Ok so your read these thread HUM well I am not going to complain, but what I will say is how did you all miss the number one issue raised in these thread LIKE fix PvP. Most klingon wanted PVP fixed over content yet even in your post you said content takes a lot of man hours. So wouldnt it of made more sense to fix PvP over adding a few storyline content that will only be for different levels at different time exp. for them neutral content. I dont know but it make logical sense that pvp would of gave you the best bang for your buck.
Not everyone is after the PvP content, most of the posts that I have seen so far here is about the lack of PvE content for KDF and that's the reason they are working on the PvE part for the KDF at the moment.
I only play on the fed side because I don't like to PvP (many years of negative experience) and I will give KDF a try once more PvE content is added for them because I'm interested in their side of the story of what is going on in the universe.
And the Feds got a lot of stuff too, making things more imbalanced.
And to back that up, a dev said that one of the things that will distinguish Feds and Klingons is the unique costumes the Klingons get... oh WAIT! Through Diplomatic Core, Feds get the same costume options by being able to have KLINGON BO's.
KLINGONS have fewer BO options than Feds, Fed BO's have Space Traits, and now Feds have access to Klingon BO.s Klingons do not have access to Fed BO's.
And this is "balanced" by the fact that the Feds get a C-store ship that gives them a previously Klingon-only advantage (cloak). Klingons get zip. Furthermore, Feds get 3 L51 "refit" ships, all with neat powers, and one of them ALSO has a previously Klingon-only advantage (cloak). Klingons get 1 L51 "refit" ship, and... er... yeah.
So no, sorry, it seems that every time you try to give Klingons something, you get scared and rush to offer the Feds something too... the poor darlings... which means you give stuff to both sides... which means Klingons are left behind. Again.
And about those Off-Duty uniforms... OH WAIT. Fed only. Sorry.
And about those social areas like Risa and Vulcan and... OH WAIT. Fed only. Sorry.
And about the option to Transwarp to different places on the map besides the homeworld... OH WAIT. Fed only. Sorry.
And about all these new Fed ships being added to the game (Excelceor, Nebula). And graphical/model fixes to existing Fed ships (Galaxy). On top of the tons of ships the Feds already had. On the other hand, Klingons have started with less ships, and they have had a whooping 2 ships added to their roster, with zero graphical fixes.
Day 45 patch was to be the "Klingons catch up patch".
I agree that the KDF side is lacking in content,but you have to realize that it takes time to create the things you want.And yelling and screaming will not make it go any faster.I believe that our patience will be rewarded.
The only reason they are posting now is because we lit the fire.... now lets add gasoline... Blow up the main forums and stop posting in here. Until your heard, bring valid concerns about STO, which may be Klingon centered, to the main forums.
This, is just the complete utter lack of a sense of reality. If we wait, it will come???? LOL WTF? How long have you been here? 6 months since release, FEDs got the Galaxy -X (Not even mentioned in beta or heck, anywhere else, but they got it)
The Galaxy - X
-New Abiltiies (cloak and Phaser Lance)
-New Model
-New Skins
-New calculations.
Where was the working on the Klingon content during this time??? Does it look like your sub paid to make that? Yes, and when it released, was it even for Klingons? NO....
See, that's the something I don't get. I can't remember a single time that the devs referred to Season 2 as 'The Klingon Patch' or anything to that effect.
Its possible it was only mention by the devs once or twice, or that some of the more hardline klingon players simply mistook the statements that were made, either way it got the hopes up of many klingon players. Hopes that were probably unrealistic in the first place.
I did, however, fight for (and get!) tech that allows me to give different dialogue to the KDF and Starfleet.
That's it! That's it, right there!
That's the kind of FEEDBACK that players are starving for. It would go a long, long way if we saw more of what devs are "fighting" for, but in their words in the form of dialogue. And if you guys really are that resistant to dialogue, then just do away with Feedback forums.
The wall of silence that players are getting is quite an irritant. I'm not suggesting to respond to every Tom, TRIBBLE and Harry that bellyaches about everything under the sun, but a few unsolicited posts of whats on a devs mind would do a lot to quell the unrest you guys complain about having to deal with. It's sort of an issue that you created yourself.
The point was not about Diplomacy itself, it was a reply to your post saying that, we Klingons, were getting more than the Feds. My point is that several episodes do not equal a whole new game mechanic with it's own rewards, one of which is the use of Klingon BO's on Fed ships.
From a manhour perspective, I am reasonably sure that you are wrong.
The only reason they are posting now is because we lit the fire.... now lets add gasoline... Blow up the main forums and stop posting in here. Until your heard, bring valid concerns about STO, which may be Klingon centered, to the main forums.
posting things like this is the only 100% guaranteed method to get devs to stop posting
posting things like this is the only 100% guaranteed method to get devs to stop posting
Not just the Devs...the very idea is so...foolish that I'd stop posting because of it.
Anyway:
Thanks for the responses, StormShade and Kestrel.
We've felt very isolated around here lately.
I honestly have no idea whether the very idea of this thread was actually to "abandon this forum" or whether it was a clever ruse to get some kind of responses from you folks.
Anyway yesterday I've been discussing the signifficant difference in responses from the DEV side with a good friend of mine, who also plays STO and we've been going through some of the subforums for the respective Klingon and Federation shipyards.
For example we've been unable to find a single "DEV"-post in the Battlecruiser and Bird of Prey subforums and the only one in the Raptor forum was regarding the misnaming of the thread when it was first created.
There were two posts in the carrier forum, one was regarding a move of the thread there, one was regarding a change in balance.
It was from May 14th.
It's one of those examples why we've felt deserted.
It's been like this was the dirty corner of the forums where noone dared to
tread without a very large disruptor rifle and an even larger flashlight
And it's what has been part of the buildup of anger around here.
The biggest part for me personally.
It's not that we want to have everything and yesterday with a cherry on top.
And personally I wouldn't want you folks coming in here once a week apologizing that we haven't got what we've been asking for because you don't have the manpower to do it.
However we would like to get noticed once in a while.
And more importantly we want to notice that we've been noticed.:)
And frankly a response to an actual topic once every two weeks is a lot better than something that reads like a public relations message.
Anyway thank you both and I believe noone around here wants to continue to "meet" under these circumstances and I hope they will never arise again.
posting things like this is the only 100% guaranteed method to get devs to stop posting
Really? Seems the fact that someone responded shows that your point is invalid. As for the topic, I want content filled replies, no more PR BS from cryptic reps in here. I, like others, want to see valid concerns get taken care of.
Are you kidding me? They are passing it along to the Dev team? This issue has been there forever, truth is, they never checked the forums or read any Klingon bug reports.
Really? Seems the fact that someone responded shows that your point is invalid. As for the topic, I want content filled replies, no more PR BS from cryptic reps in here. I, like others, want to see valid concerns get taken care of.
Are you kidding me? They are passing it along to the Dev team? This issue has been there forever, truth is, they never checked the forums or read any Klingon bug reports.
Ya dang skippy...they ignore the side...What is this crud I have been getting lately of, "We'll get to it later...etc etc etc..."?
What else makes me loathe and abhorre the system even more is the fact the bug tickets are ignored on this side even more than on the p'tah side....I have submitted bug reports for getting stuck inthe TW gate among other things...yeah, no success there.
Their costume upgrades for klingons.....besides the orion new clothing options and nausicaans consist of fur sleeves and fixing shoulder armour bugs that have been in the game since day 1.
Don't tell me they haven't the time to fix the bugs...they just don't care. They worry about appeasing the feds too much....Do they forget that we also have fed toons? Do they also forget we pay subscriptions? If this keeps going, I'll have no choice to get my money back for my subscription from alternative means......
Ya dang skippy...they ignore the side...What is this crud I have been getting lately of, "We'll get to it later...etc etc etc..."?
What else makes me loathe and abhorre the system even more is the fact the bug tickets are ignored on this side even more than on the p'tah side....I have submitted bug reports for getting stuck inthe TW gate among other things...yeah, no success there.
Their costume upgrades for klingons.....besides the orion new clothing options and nausicaans consist of fur sleeves and fixing shoulder armour bugs that have been in the game since day 1.
Don't tell me they haven't the time to fix the bugs...they just don't care. They worry about appeasing the feds too much....Do they forget that we also have fed toons? Do they also forget we pay subscriptions? If this keeps going, I'll have no choice to get my money back for my subscription from alternative means......
Let's Recap:
Klingons to Devs ... "We want more stuff! We're not complete! This sucks!" Devs to Klingons ... "We agree. We are working on giving you more stuff. And here's a bunch of reasons why things aren't working out as smoothly as you were hoping."
If this is true, have Dstahl put it in a posted letter on the front of this website (not a forum message). Make an announcement to the community with a timeframe about fixing this. Otherwise, this is nothing but the same old continued "we will tell you what you want to stop the bad PR posts" we have gotten used to since beta.
However, what I think your really want right now is more content that makes sense for Klingons. In which case, my answer remains the same. We're working on rectifying that imbalance. However, it's going to take time.
Thanks,
Stormshade
This is why I haven't bothered logging in and playing for months. All I've done is occasionally check the forums and patch the game.
Not to mention the design devs are still working on a fed ship because the threw a fit that the armor didn't do what the shows did instead of trying to get a couple of new ships out for us before season 2 release and work on the armor later. heck I'd be happy at this point for a couple new skins for ships that are already there. Feds have a bunch of brand new designs never seen in the movies or the shows so why cant there be Klingon New designs as well. In a perfect world for every fed ship skin released there should be a Klingon Ship skin released as well that would begin to make Klingons happy. Instead Feds get what like 10 skins now plus the 3 per class they already had to our 4 new skins along with the ones we started with. There has got to be a way for the design team to split it up and release one skin per faction every time a new one is released.
True enough as a Demo I'm stuck to Freddie and they as flush with everything lavished opulent .. though as a LT i was teased on my Second TEst Slot with the You've Reach the rank to unlock a Klingon Dialog..
Haha what would ShadowLord say.. I mean i polish my boots.. I saw Hurricanes name flash up but before i could patch and try the DEmo again he was gone.. See Demo unless you have a friend on the list already has no zone chat.. so you cant go into a closed Instance anyway just meet at Club 47.. I Spent half of open beta stuck as a freddie never got to test Klingon at all because the server support was so overwhelmed and the
Patching crashed Proxy servers. The Accounts Server was mis programemd last week end and not patched until last day had me locked out and slow patchign rates made it impossable to meet the Borg or log into Champions on-line that im still enjoyign and payign for,
If this is true, have Dstahl put it in a posted letter on the front of this website (not a forum message). Make an announcement to the community with a timeframe about fixing this. Otherwise, this is nothing but the same old continued "we will tell you what you want to stop the bad PR posts" we have gotten used to since beta.
Agree here. Only one of those "You will get some cool stuff soon" posts. Before I believe that there will be progression on Klingon content I want clear evidenc. The Devs made many videos for the Feds to show them what they get including Dev comments and screenshots etc.
posting things like this is the only 100% guaranteed method to get devs to stop posting
If you never rub their noses in it, they will never learn. Seems like you're rather new to the MMO world.
On a more serious note: STO will always be around more or less. But it's too late to jack the game up for the general MMO market. STO has been weighed and tested by a lot of people and the majority already ditched it. This is just another Warhammer Online/Age of Conan game. They don't excel but they'll stick around for a while as more or less "background" MMOs.
Mistake the devs make for STO? For starters they cater way too much to one faction and telling the other faction pretty much to f-off. Not a smart way of dealing with things. Making promises that a certain patch will have nearly all of the content for a certain faction and then TRIBBLE themselves by doing it otherwise isn't smart at all. Tabula Rasa should be used as a learning stage for that.
For those of you looking for a new/future MMO to play, I'd say check out Earthrise and SWTOR. No promises they'll be the golden grail but let's just face it, can't be much worse then STO now can it?
People seems to forget that Cryptic only had 1 year to develop this game where other companies have 2-6 years to develop a game and the fact that the KDF was designed as a PvP faction while the Federation was a mixture of both from way before closed beta.
Considering the time they had to develop this game and the fact that it has been live for almost 6 months, they have gotten a long way and got allot of new content into the game.
I feel that Season 2 is only the beginning of new content for KDF and that more and more stuff will be added.
With all due respect...as has been pointed out many, many times...
The "Klingon faction was originally designed to be a PvP faction" mantra is a myth.
The Klingon faction did not start out that way....now...during the Beta it became that, and to be quite candid, there were a number of Klingon players who left the game over this very issue.
PvP is an important part of the Klingon play style...but it is not the reason why the faction exists. It was supposed to be much more than that.
People seems to forget that Cryptic only had 1 year to develop this game where other companies have 2-6 years to develop a game and the fact that the KDF was designed as a PvP faction while the Federation was a mixture of both from way before closed beta.
Considering the time they had to develop this game and the fact that it has been live for almost 6 months, they have gotten a long way and got allot of new content into the game.
I feel that Season 2 is only the beginning of new content for KDF and that more and more stuff will be added.
That statement affects the player base ZERO. It wasn't our call on when to release it. They did it for the bonus and such. And they touted the engine was perfect so there was no need for the 3-5 years to build the engine. That being said, if it took 1 year for for the game, 6 months of that being to build the interfaces, and 6 months for the feds, why didn't the klinks get fixed in the last 6 months since release?
That statement affects the player base ZERO. It wasn't our call on when to release it. They did it for the bonus and such. And they touted the engine was perfect so there was no need for the 3-5 years to build the engine. That being said, if it took 1 year for for the game, 6 months of that being to build the interfaces, and 6 months for the feds, why didn't the klinks get fixed in the last 6 months since release?
You seem to forget that the 1 year deadline was set by CBS and not Cryptic.
The devs has a few times said that if they could, they would had waited with the launch until all the content they wanted in the game from the start to be there.
At least that is what was said in the forum and IRC chat during closed/open beta.
The last 6 months has gone to adding more content that everyone is screaming for, fix bugs and to add some of the stuff they wanted to add before launch that got left out because they didn't have time to finish them.
And also their team is allot smaller now then what it was during development and closed/open beta...all MMO companies downsize the development team of a game as soon as it is released to the public so that they can put the extra work force to start on a new game or just to cut down on expenses to pay for the huge server farms that are needed to run a MMO server.
MMO is a game type that never stops getting developed unlike all the single player games that most people play. Look at Lineage2 and WoW, online for more than 6 years and new content and huge expansions are still being developed and added to the game.
Take Lineage2 for example, compare the content it had on launch with the content that is in the game now and the differences are insane. At first the level cap was 20 and then become 40 in the 2nd expansion, players spent months to grind up to 40 ...now it takes 1-2 days to hit 40 and the level cap is 85 that can take you over a year of casual game play to reach.
Give Cryptic some time and STO will be a huge game.
For me the Feds just started to get the content that they should have had from day one and that is non-combat missions, because in the shows they mostly used diplomacy to deal with disputes and used violence as a last resort and in most cases only if they where attacked 1st.
Playing a Fed up until now has been like playing a Klingon...oh no they are in our way, what do we do? kill them all, give them no warning and no request to leave the system.
As a lifer, I don't care if I have to wait another year before all the content that I wish was in the game gets added...heck my highest level character is Captain 6 at the moment.
You seem to forget that the 1 year deadline was set by CBS and not Cryptic.
Wrong, it had nothing to do with CBS, and everything to do with Atari; on top of that they had almost two years to develop the game not one. The fact that it was two years still doesn't help Cryptic much because the typical development period for a solid MMO title is absolutely no less than three.
The last 6 months has gone to adding more content that everyone is screaming for, fix bugs and to add some of the stuff they wanted to add before launch that got left out because they didn't have time to finish them.
It isn't so much added content that people are screaming for as it is the inclusion of content that was originally planned to be there in the first place (a perfect example is the level cap, which was originally stated to be Rear Admiral/Brigadier General 10; not 5).
Yes they are making bug fixes and doing a little extra through the C-Store, but they have a long way to go for this game to be up to the levels that people were expecting, and chances are that by the time that that happens other MMO titles will have been released or be on the horizon (SW:tOR; WoW: Cataclysm; World of Darkness; etc....)
And also their team is allot smaller now then what it was during development and closed/open beta...all MMO companies downsize the development team of a game as soon as it is released to the public so that they can put the extra work force to start on a new game or just to cut down on expenses to pay for the huge server farms that are needed to run a MMO server.
This is true, but it is also another source of anger from the fans as they find the fact that Cryptic has manpower that is being used on other games (the 3rd MMO title that is and has been under development by Cryptic) while this game remains in its current state to be a slap in the face.
MMO is a game type that never stops getting developed unlike all the single player games that most people play. Look at Lineage2 and WoW, online for more than 6 years and new content and huge expansions are still being developed and added to the game.
Take Lineage2 for example, compare the content it had on launch with the content that is in the game now and the differences are insane. At first the level cap was 20 and then become 40 in the 2nd expansion, players spent months to grind up to 40 ...now it takes 1-2 days to hit 40 and the level cap is 85 that can take you over a year of casual game play to reach.
Absolutely true, but you have to remember that companies have to remain positive on the balance sheets and if titles keep on losing paying subscriptions then there is a point where the owners will pull the plug and shut it down (take Tabula Rasa for example, which was a heavily hyped title with about six years development time that shut down a little over a year after launch).
Give Cryptic some time and STO will be a huge game.
For me the Feds just started to get the content that they should have had from day one and that is non-combat missions, because in the shows they mostly used diplomacy to deal with disputes and used violence as a last resort and in most cases only if they where attacked 1st.
That goes right back to what I said up top where they have been including content that they originally planned to have in there in the first place; they have been and will continue to be playing catch up for the foreseeable future.
Playing a Fed up until now has been like playing a Klingon...oh no they are in our way, what do we do? kill them all, give them no warning and no request to leave the system.
As a lifer, I don't care if I have to wait another year before all the content that I wish was in the game gets added...heck my highest level character is Captain 6 at the moment.
I too am a lifetime subscriber and while I think this game will be in a much better state in a year, I don't see the MMO gamers waiting for this game to come around. Instead I see those gamers going to other games that are on the horizon instead of giving a company that has burned them a second or third chance.
I want to be wrong with this, I really do but I just don't see this game achieving the numbers that it could have if it been kept in the oven another year or two.
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That's honestly great. I hope that's a part of all future facytion agnostic content so that (if and when you guys are able to add other factions) the story text can be a bit more tailored to suit each faction.
*immediately.*
I am sure no one here believe you can do anything immediately you all prove that exp. Produce four fed ships in a mouth. We KDF know how you feel we as well are a small team and are annoyed.
AAARRRRUUUGHHHH!!!! I'M ANGRY!!!!! ON THE INTERNET!!! Yes this goes on a lot, but in defense of the klingon forum there have been more suggestion then this and to point out this was not the atmosphere around here until resent.
Now onto the topic at hand ...
I will totally agree with you that the KDF needs more ships this would be taken more seriously by the klingon community if we havent had the same sense launch as we watch the feds get more then the can handle.
Sorry for the rant but maybe next time you read a post that annoyes you will understand were it come from not to defend all post because you cant please all.
Thanks for coming see you all in a few mouths.
Not everyone is after the PvP content, most of the posts that I have seen so far here is about the lack of PvE content for KDF and that's the reason they are working on the PvE part for the KDF at the moment.
I only play on the fed side because I don't like to PvP (many years of negative experience) and I will give KDF a try once more PvE content is added for them because I'm interested in their side of the story of what is going on in the universe.
Well said.
The only reason they are posting now is because we lit the fire.... now lets add gasoline... Blow up the main forums and stop posting in here. Until your heard, bring valid concerns about STO, which may be Klingon centered, to the main forums.
This, is just the complete utter lack of a sense of reality. If we wait, it will come???? LOL WTF? How long have you been here? 6 months since release, FEDs got the Galaxy -X (Not even mentioned in beta or heck, anywhere else, but they got it)
The Galaxy - X
-New Abiltiies (cloak and Phaser Lance)
-New Model
-New Skins
-New calculations.
Where was the working on the Klingon content during this time??? Does it look like your sub paid to make that? Yes, and when it released, was it even for Klingons? NO....
Its possible it was only mention by the devs once or twice, or that some of the more hardline klingon players simply mistook the statements that were made, either way it got the hopes up of many klingon players. Hopes that were probably unrealistic in the first place.
That's it! That's it, right there!
That's the kind of FEEDBACK that players are starving for. It would go a long, long way if we saw more of what devs are "fighting" for, but in their words in the form of dialogue. And if you guys really are that resistant to dialogue, then just do away with Feedback forums.
The wall of silence that players are getting is quite an irritant. I'm not suggesting to respond to every Tom, TRIBBLE and Harry that bellyaches about everything under the sun, but a few unsolicited posts of whats on a devs mind would do a lot to quell the unrest you guys complain about having to deal with. It's sort of an issue that you created yourself.
Not just the Devs...the very idea is so...foolish that I'd stop posting because of it.
Anyway:
Thanks for the responses, StormShade and Kestrel.
We've felt very isolated around here lately.
I honestly have no idea whether the very idea of this thread was actually to "abandon this forum" or whether it was a clever ruse to get some kind of responses from you folks.
Anyway yesterday I've been discussing the signifficant difference in responses from the DEV side with a good friend of mine, who also plays STO and we've been going through some of the subforums for the respective Klingon and Federation shipyards.
For example we've been unable to find a single "DEV"-post in the Battlecruiser and Bird of Prey subforums and the only one in the Raptor forum was regarding the misnaming of the thread when it was first created.
There were two posts in the carrier forum, one was regarding a move of the thread there, one was regarding a change in balance.
It was from May 14th.
It's one of those examples why we've felt deserted.
It's been like this was the dirty corner of the forums where noone dared to
tread without a very large disruptor rifle and an even larger flashlight
And it's what has been part of the buildup of anger around here.
The biggest part for me personally.
It's not that we want to have everything and yesterday with a cherry on top.
And personally I wouldn't want you folks coming in here once a week apologizing that we haven't got what we've been asking for because you don't have the manpower to do it.
However we would like to get noticed once in a while.
And more importantly we want to notice that we've been noticed.:)
And frankly a response to an actual topic once every two weeks is a lot better than something that reads like a public relations message.
Anyway thank you both and I believe noone around here wants to continue to "meet" under these circumstances and I hope they will never arise again.
Really? Seems the fact that someone responded shows that your point is invalid. As for the topic, I want content filled replies, no more PR BS from cryptic reps in here. I, like others, want to see valid concerns get taken care of.
FYI - Read this thread
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2873993
Are you kidding me? They are passing it along to the Dev team? This issue has been there forever, truth is, they never checked the forums or read any Klingon bug reports.
Ya dang skippy...they ignore the side...What is this crud I have been getting lately of, "We'll get to it later...etc etc etc..."?
What else makes me loathe and abhorre the system even more is the fact the bug tickets are ignored on this side even more than on the p'tah side....I have submitted bug reports for getting stuck inthe TW gate among other things...yeah, no success there.
Their costume upgrades for klingons.....besides the orion new clothing options and nausicaans consist of fur sleeves and fixing shoulder armour bugs that have been in the game since day 1.
Don't tell me they haven't the time to fix the bugs...they just don't care. They worry about appeasing the feds too much....Do they forget that we also have fed toons? Do they also forget we pay subscriptions? If this keeps going, I'll have no choice to get my money back for my subscription from alternative means......
You said it!
If this is true, have Dstahl put it in a posted letter on the front of this website (not a forum message). Make an announcement to the community with a timeframe about fixing this. Otherwise, this is nothing but the same old continued "we will tell you what you want to stop the bad PR posts" we have gotten used to since beta.
This is why I haven't bothered logging in and playing for months. All I've done is occasionally check the forums and patch the game.
True enough as a Demo I'm stuck to Freddie and they as flush with everything lavished opulent .. though as a LT i was teased on my Second TEst Slot with the You've Reach the rank to unlock a Klingon Dialog..
Haha what would ShadowLord say.. I mean i polish my boots.. I saw Hurricanes name flash up but before i could patch and try the DEmo again he was gone.. See Demo unless you have a friend on the list already has no zone chat.. so you cant go into a closed Instance anyway just meet at Club 47.. I Spent half of open beta stuck as a freddie never got to test Klingon at all because the server support was so overwhelmed and the
Patching crashed Proxy servers. The Accounts Server was mis programemd last week end and not patched until last day had me locked out and slow patchign rates made it impossable to meet the Borg or log into Champions on-line that im still enjoyign and payign for,
Agree here. Only one of those "You will get some cool stuff soon" posts. Before I believe that there will be progression on Klingon content I want clear evidenc. The Devs made many videos for the Feds to show them what they get including Dev comments and screenshots etc.
If you never rub their noses in it, they will never learn. Seems like you're rather new to the MMO world.
On a more serious note: STO will always be around more or less. But it's too late to jack the game up for the general MMO market. STO has been weighed and tested by a lot of people and the majority already ditched it. This is just another Warhammer Online/Age of Conan game. They don't excel but they'll stick around for a while as more or less "background" MMOs.
Mistake the devs make for STO? For starters they cater way too much to one faction and telling the other faction pretty much to f-off. Not a smart way of dealing with things. Making promises that a certain patch will have nearly all of the content for a certain faction and then TRIBBLE themselves by doing it otherwise isn't smart at all. Tabula Rasa should be used as a learning stage for that.
For those of you looking for a new/future MMO to play, I'd say check out Earthrise and SWTOR. No promises they'll be the golden grail but let's just face it, can't be much worse then STO now can it?
Considering the time they had to develop this game and the fact that it has been live for almost 6 months, they have gotten a long way and got allot of new content into the game.
I feel that Season 2 is only the beginning of new content for KDF and that more and more stuff will be added.
With all due respect...as has been pointed out many, many times...
The "Klingon faction was originally designed to be a PvP faction" mantra is a myth.
The Klingon faction did not start out that way....now...during the Beta it became that, and to be quite candid, there were a number of Klingon players who left the game over this very issue.
PvP is an important part of the Klingon play style...but it is not the reason why the faction exists. It was supposed to be much more than that.
That statement affects the player base ZERO. It wasn't our call on when to release it. They did it for the bonus and such. And they touted the engine was perfect so there was no need for the 3-5 years to build the engine. That being said, if it took 1 year for for the game, 6 months of that being to build the interfaces, and 6 months for the feds, why didn't the klinks get fixed in the last 6 months since release?
This is not a valid statement. Cryptic released the game when they did in order to get a 2 million dollar bonus from Atari for releasing it "early."
You seem to forget that the 1 year deadline was set by CBS and not Cryptic.
The devs has a few times said that if they could, they would had waited with the launch until all the content they wanted in the game from the start to be there.
At least that is what was said in the forum and IRC chat during closed/open beta.
The last 6 months has gone to adding more content that everyone is screaming for, fix bugs and to add some of the stuff they wanted to add before launch that got left out because they didn't have time to finish them.
And also their team is allot smaller now then what it was during development and closed/open beta...all MMO companies downsize the development team of a game as soon as it is released to the public so that they can put the extra work force to start on a new game or just to cut down on expenses to pay for the huge server farms that are needed to run a MMO server.
MMO is a game type that never stops getting developed unlike all the single player games that most people play. Look at Lineage2 and WoW, online for more than 6 years and new content and huge expansions are still being developed and added to the game.
Take Lineage2 for example, compare the content it had on launch with the content that is in the game now and the differences are insane. At first the level cap was 20 and then become 40 in the 2nd expansion, players spent months to grind up to 40 ...now it takes 1-2 days to hit 40 and the level cap is 85 that can take you over a year of casual game play to reach.
Give Cryptic some time and STO will be a huge game.
For me the Feds just started to get the content that they should have had from day one and that is non-combat missions, because in the shows they mostly used diplomacy to deal with disputes and used violence as a last resort and in most cases only if they where attacked 1st.
Playing a Fed up until now has been like playing a Klingon...oh no they are in our way, what do we do? kill them all, give them no warning and no request to leave the system.
As a lifer, I don't care if I have to wait another year before all the content that I wish was in the game gets added...heck my highest level character is Captain 6 at the moment.
News flash: Pretty much every commercial game contract has an early release bonus built into it.
Wrong, it had nothing to do with CBS, and everything to do with Atari; on top of that they had almost two years to develop the game not one. The fact that it was two years still doesn't help Cryptic much because the typical development period for a solid MMO title is absolutely no less than three.
It isn't so much added content that people are screaming for as it is the inclusion of content that was originally planned to be there in the first place (a perfect example is the level cap, which was originally stated to be Rear Admiral/Brigadier General 10; not 5).
Yes they are making bug fixes and doing a little extra through the C-Store, but they have a long way to go for this game to be up to the levels that people were expecting, and chances are that by the time that that happens other MMO titles will have been released or be on the horizon (SW:tOR; WoW: Cataclysm; World of Darkness; etc....)
This is true, but it is also another source of anger from the fans as they find the fact that Cryptic has manpower that is being used on other games (the 3rd MMO title that is and has been under development by Cryptic) while this game remains in its current state to be a slap in the face.
Absolutely true, but you have to remember that companies have to remain positive on the balance sheets and if titles keep on losing paying subscriptions then there is a point where the owners will pull the plug and shut it down (take Tabula Rasa for example, which was a heavily hyped title with about six years development time that shut down a little over a year after launch).
That goes right back to what I said up top where they have been including content that they originally planned to have in there in the first place; they have been and will continue to be playing catch up for the foreseeable future.
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I too am a lifetime subscriber and while I think this game will be in a much better state in a year, I don't see the MMO gamers waiting for this game to come around. Instead I see those gamers going to other games that are on the horizon instead of giving a company that has burned them a second or third chance.
I want to be wrong with this, I really do but I just don't see this game achieving the numbers that it could have if it been kept in the oven another year or two.