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As i warned about a month ago it appears Cryptic will be offering the Federation Galaxy X Cloaked Ship in the C-Store soon.
And.........
They will be introducing Federation Cloaking to non C-Store ships to in STO.
Every Starfleet player will have the opportunity to cloak.......
The proof: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2784082
And.........
They will be introducing Federation Cloaking to non C-Store ships to in STO.
Every Starfleet player will have the opportunity to cloak.......
The proof: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2784082
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The Federation will slice and dice the Borg!!
It is absolute bull that they are doing that, seriously TRIBBLE over the people who got the ship with the rewards. On top of that they are making Federation Premades go from tough to beat, to unbeatable as all of the hardcore guilds are going to run Galaxy-X's.
To date this is the dumbest move that I have seen Cryptic make, everything else that they've done can be explained away or w/e, but this is just stupid.
Ummm I copied and pasted the GM post for those of you who don't want to click the link:
"More information on that is coming. The dev team has informed me that more content is coming that will ensure that players without the Galaxy-X will be equally powerful in PVP/PVE, but I haven't been informed as to how exactly this will occur. However, I know that out developers are dedicated to ensuring that the game is balanced, and that players should not be able to use the C-Store to gain a combat advantage."
Where does it say they're putting it in the C-store? And how does that translate to giving every player cloak?
They kick their most dedicated players who put much effort into recruited players in the TRIBBLE with doing this.
I really feel sorry for them
This will definitly have a long term effect on how Cryptic will be seen as a company, and it won't be a good sight I expect. As well this will drive many players away again.
The other effect will be on Gameplay. The Galaxy X has cloak and the Phaser Lance as standard, so the balance in PvP will be definitly shifted in the Federations manner.:mad:
2nd Post: Gloom!
3rd Post: Doom!
4th Post: Gloom!
and so on..
Don't you think you guys are blowing this out of proportion? Each galaxy x requires 5 accounts + 5 1 month subs beyond the free time. Think about it..
Personally, I thing they should of left it as it was. Now any incentive they announce for any new referal program will be ignored.
I interpret this to mean that Starfleet will be offered Cloaking ships without having to use the C-Store.
GM Destra
More information on that is coming. The dev team has informed me that more content is coming that will ensure that players without the Galaxy-X will be equally powerful in PVP/PVE, but I haven't been informed as to how exactly this will occur. However, I know that out developers are dedicated to ensuring that the game is balanced, and that players should not be able to use the C-Store to gain a combat advantage.
The post could be interpreted this way. If this meas Starfleet gets Cloak, this could mean, too that there will be countermeasures.
Respectfully the Cloaking device is game altering whether PvE or PvP.
I want to have the patience and trust that unfavorable decisions that Cryptic has made in the past were due to business model, driving from above, or general poor choice. However, I just cannot see the logic behind this one. Not only is it a blatant and quick slap to those that earned (through effort or multiple game copies) their ship, but also a blatant break to the balance between Federation and Klingon factions.
Perhaps I'm wrong and the Klingon side will come out with some new toy to take into battle and the reference to "balance" will be improved ships for both sides. However, at this time, I see the word "balance" as, "We hear the federation complain about Klingon cloak and as such will now give it to them so they can have it too." Unless I'm mistaken, the reasoning behind the Klingon cloak ability (Lore aside) was to offset benefits the Federation received and to make a difference between the two factions. If that is not the case, then someone set me straight.
I'm truly lost on this call and think that if Cryptic doesn't get a staff rep brought on board for the Klingons and someone here to address this question, they are just going to open that wound further that is already hemorrhaging players, especially those of us that love the Klingon side. I would say that the ball, at this point, is fully in their court to convince the players to further trust them with our disposable time and money each month. I hope they choose to come forward on that.
(Give them to science ships: they need the love.)
Balance automatically means cloak for everyone? I don't get it.
WHAT!!!! Waht kind of bull is this!??!?!?
But really, so what if they give every Fed ship cloaking? The Romulans will have cloaking when they are released as the 3rd faction. Might as well give it to the Feds too so everyone is "balanced".
Course the Klingon ships (asside from the unique BOP with Battle Cloak and universal BO slots) should get shield and hull upgrades to put them on par with their Fed counterparts. Then everything will be nice and "balanced" and only the true skill of a player or team will matter.
Or may be we can mantain the "equilibrium" on the game, and we must forgide the cloak. If we want cloaks, we can use klingons or better romulans.
""I"" "also" wish a "borg aasault team" a borg shield neutralicer and a cutting beam... but maybe I can be assimilated by borg to use that things.
Any races had a strong points and flaw points, please, do no touch that. Ronddenberry was thinkin on a mankind as a honor and valiant space race, no as a cowards with cloak (the great "irony" about klingons warriors that use steal as romulans without "honor".
The mankind is in that time a great "union" of good things. Always going face to face.
A salute for all
Then it wouldn't be Star Trek, and it wouldn't be a game with asymmetric balance. Instead it would be just another MMO with complete symmetry on all sides with the only difference being how they look. (That's because it would only be the first step, next they would want the T5 defiant to have battle cloak and universal stations and with enough whining they'd get it, then carriers, and so on)
Would you want to play that game? I wouldn't that's for sure, if the devs can't respect canon enough to keep cloaking out of the hands of the Federation, then there is no telling how far they'll go in disrespecting canon...
Would you please explain to me WHY for goodness heaven's sake both the Enterprise-D in All Good Things and Admiral Janeways shuttle in Endgame had cloaking devices if it's not canon? Maybe you have some special definition of canon I'm not familiar with?
you do know that the galaxy actually is rated higher than the sovereign on the nerd-scale of ship power?
If you'd want to make it like the show, the galaxy would have to be a battering ram that once in a while stays still and turns into a hugearse turret that lobs one hit doom phaser bursts at people....
aside from that:
The galaxy x is basically a t4 galaxy with a cloack and a special phaser cannon.
Now, do yo ufear t4 galaxys in pvp? no you do not.
The lack of consoles alone ramp down its potential firepower by a huge margin compared to the assault cruiser.
In one on one duels, i have NEVER seen the galaxy x pull ahead of an AC - and that was with SKILLED players.
The Galaxy x is a step down in combat performance.
But, it IS a galaxy, a fancy, shiny, new galaxy and we will fly it because we want to, not because it will offer ANY advantage in pvp besides "not getting shot at unless you de-cloak".
The Beam lance, reportedly, does negligible damage, and the thought of a galaxy with cannons should make you laugh your klingon beards off instead of sitting here yelping.
Although I agree it's canon that the Federation has used and tested cloak, morally they don't use it.
Read Path to 2395
In short it covers the Federation testing cloak and also why they don't use it now.
Times change. Taris complained about it, but now it is revealed that she destroyed Romulus herself and Sela has replaced her. Sela almost has declared open war on the Federation, systems directly next to Starbase Sierra have been attacked, so Okeg's policy is obviously a failure. It's just a matter of time and CBS until the Federation gets the cloak.;)
Personally, I'm against the Galaxy-X having it as long as other Fed-ships don't. But I don't get the opposition to Feds getting cloak. There's still a lot that makes Klingon ships different.
:mad:
Yes the Enterprise-D (AGT) had a cloak, but the Pasteur didn't did it? It was never explained why the ship had a cloaking device, but that stuff aside I'm not arguing that it's canon for the Galaxy-X to have cloak, in fact you can post search me and see that I was fine with it having cloak when it was part of the referral program (namely because it would be a rarely seen ship).
The issue here is that the Federation should not have cloaking on a wide scale, and that's exactly what will happen when this thing goes to the C-Store; every assault cruiser captain (and many star cruisers) will buy it thinking that it will make them 'uber' or some stupid sh** and that they'll stop sucking at PvP, only to find that it's not the cloak that gives the Klingons the upper hand in pug matches (ooooh their tears will sustain me!!!).
In Roddenberry's own words, "Our heroes don't sneak around."
It's not a times change sort of thing, the same President that signed the Ban on research into cloaking technology is still in office in 2409 and it's nowhere near an election year. With the war with the Klingons he will want to keep the Romulans from getting too ****ed and if he lifted the ban then they would really get angry.
Bottom line, the game's own lore, the show's canon, and Roddenberry's own words go against the Federation having full scale cloaking.
Maybe they will start whinning and crying when that torpedo DOESN't loose its lock when you go to cloak and impacts on your bare hull cause your shields are down. And then Cryptic will be forced to fix the freaking problem...finally. Oh wait...we were told to "Live with it":mad:
Well, the Pasteur was a medical ship, the Enterprise a dreadnought. And it's funny, because I'm against the Galaxy-X having a cloak. It was explained, that there was no Romulan Empire to speak of left in that timeline and that's why the Federation got the cloak. This doesn't apply here, so I'm against it.
So what's your problem? Personally I am sure that the Sovereign is the better ship. I'm still planning to get a Galaxy-X. Why? Style. I don't care for the cloak, but I love the look of the Galaxy and want to fly it on T5. (Okay, I'm no PvPer, so I don't affect you anyway.)
What would be so horrible if Federation ships could get a cloak? You say it yourself: It won't make them better in PvP. So as long as Klingon ships and Fed ships are balanced (meaning you get your hull buffed when the feds get cloak.
Roddenberry didn't want war for more than one episode either. Just look at DS9...
The Romulans are already angry. The whole point of the Romulan story arc for the Feds is to dissuade them from all-out war through force. Part of it is destroying a Romulan fleet, that prepares to cross borders to bombard Vulcan with subspace weapons and a secret fleet of Borg-enhanced ships. They specifically state that Sela would declare war if she could. And politcians can change their policies if they become to unpopular. The person he made that agreement with is a crazy mass-murderer and her replacement is a crazy wannabe mass-murderer. Add a lot of dead Starfleet officers to the mix and that's a recipe for becoming unpopular.
That's STUPID. If Fed Cloak then why do u guys want Romulans.
Isn't it bad enough that Klingon ships cloak.
All this Cross culture tech is BS
Feds using Disrupters
Klingons Using Phasers
FEDs and Klingons with Plasma Torpedos.
etc....
Yeh keep F-in up the game. Good work dummies.
Come on already - this is stupid -
the cross tech aspect actually is not the problem. Starfleet battles andstarfleet command lived quite well with cross tech. boy those are still fun games....
sorry, i'm off for some plasma ballet.