Well here's the thing. Franz Josephs designs with odd numbers of nacelles have always been a tricky thing, but they HAVE been shown on displays in the movies, so it becomes tough to claim they CAN'T be canon.
Here they are in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - though this is the one-nacelled Hermes class not the three-nacelled Federation class.
Indeed. Pretty sure the bits that rotated through onscreen did include the 3-nacelled dreadnaught, too.
For 3-nacelle designs, though, I much prefer the ones that have them out at about 120 degrees to each other or at least spread over a 180 degree-ish, like that one from the Wolf 359 graveyard that I can't remember the name of and the DSSVs (at least the ones where the pod resembles a nacelle).
Well here's the thing. Franz Josephs designs with odd numbers of nacelles have always been a tricky thing, but they HAVE been shown on displays in the movies, so it becomes tough to claim they CAN'T be canon.
Here they are in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - though this is the one-nacelled Hermes class not the three-nacelled Federation class.
Phoxe, can you please answer me this. Why name the Fleet Escort the Hermes-class when you had the one from TOS?
Anyhow, I'm anxious to see if the Galaxy X is going to be just another Tier 5 ship, or if she's going to be somewhat unique.
But I don't have any friends who will play a Star Trek Game. soooo... I'm SOL.
Tell you what Cryptic... You move it to the C-Store, and I will give you the moneies for the costume. You can give the Recruiter boyz some other awesome perk that you won't have a rabid fan boi attack over. ;-)
I might be a little fuzzy on it, but I do not recall what the Galaxy X looked like enough to warrent like or dislikeing the design..
Also, Just because ONE SHIP was shown to have a cloaking device, does not mean that if some one uses all of the Galaxy X "costume peices" they would automatically get a cloaking device..
I sware every chance some people get they try to find an excuse to give a Federation ship a Cloaking device.. All because Sisko had one I bet.. :rolleyes:
Having read the first few pages of this forum, I have to agree with just this part: Yes. I do want a Federation ship that cloaks because Sisko had one.
Additionally, while it is true that the Galaxy X is from a timeline that might never come to pass, it does not make it irrelevant. let's not kid ourselves with words like "canon" or "gene's rules". This is a game for entertainments sake. Would I fly a Galaxy X: No. to me it's ugly as sin. however it doesn't mean i want to rob other people who want to fly one of that right. I do however find the argument over who should get it....funny really.
I doubt you will see....let's say more than 10 of those ships in game. ever. Assuming the current guidelines are accurate with regards to who will have one. That said, it would not preclude Cryptic from offering it later through the C-Store or a different promotional program. I do however think giving the people who CAN recruit players into the game something for their trouble is a good idea. So, no don't delete it, don't make overly available at this time. Let the people who complete this task, impossible though it may seem have the ship. Just make sure they actually EARN it please.
That said, it would not preclude Cryptic from offering it later through the C-Store or a different promotional program.
*sigh* Plenty of ways for them to sell off something with unique gameplay factors when anything like that should be earnable in game (even if gated behind some obscenely difficult requirements).
That Ship is not even cannon. Is this game just going really non cannon.
Everything in the Star Trek TV shows and Movies is in fact canon. I think what you might be trying to say here is the ship is from an alternate timeline in the episode titled "All Good Things".
P.S. A cannon is artillery equipment. Canon means a rule or especially body of rules or principles generally established as valid and fundamental in a field or art or philosophy
P.S.S. In fact, only the material in the shows and movies is canon. Nothing else is.
P.S.S.S. Now, if you accept such things as the Mirror Universe, then you also have to accept the so called "Galaxy X" ship, right along with "J.J. Trek" and every other tv show or movie that dealt with an alternate timeline or alternate reality...however you wish to term it, it means the same thing: everything is real.
Now go chew on that for a bit, but don't let it twist your noodle too much. :eek:
Everything in the Star Trek TV shows and Movies is in fact canon. I think what you might be trying to say here is the ship is from an alternate timeline in the episode titled "All Good Things".
Not only that, but this reasoning would also exclude the much more popular Olympic-class, which is from the same episode and in the same alternate timeline. The Olympic set the precedent; although, for the sake of transparency, I don't care for this AGT Galaxy. I care for it being called the "Galaxy-X" even less.
Everything in the Star Trek TV shows and Movies is in fact canon. I think what you might be trying to say here is the ship is from an alternate timeline in the episode titled "All Good Things".
P.S. A cannon is artillery equipment. Canon means a rule or especially body of rules or principles generally established as valid and fundamental in a field or art or philosophy
P.S.S. In fact, only the material in the shows and movies is canon. Nothing else is.
P.S.S.S. Now, if you accept such things as the Mirror Universe, then you also have to accept the so called "Galaxy X" ship, right along with "J.J. Trek" and every other tv show or movie that dealt with an alternate timeline or alternate reality...however you wish to term it, it means the same thing: everything is real.
Now go chew on that for a bit, but don't let it twist your noodle too much. :eek:
Not only that, but this reasoning would also exclude the much more popular Olympic-class, which is from the same episode and in the same alternate timeline. The Olympic set the precedent; although, for the sake of transparency, I don't care for this AGT Galaxy. I care for it being called the "Galaxy-X" even less.
GB I think you missed the gist of my logic: Cryptic is going to use anything from Trek that they think is cool for the game. Canon is just a technicality and more has gone into explaining away canon that has ever gone in to supporting it. Star Trek itself quite frequently contradicts its own facts!
You can either swim with or against the current. I tend to agree with ZootCadillac on such things: It's better to fight than switch.
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Indeed. Pretty sure the bits that rotated through onscreen did include the 3-nacelled dreadnaught, too.
For 3-nacelle designs, though, I much prefer the ones that have them out at about 120 degrees to each other or at least spread over a 180 degree-ish, like that one from the Wolf 359 graveyard that I can't remember the name of and the DSSVs (at least the ones where the pod resembles a nacelle).
Niagra class.
Phoxe, can you please answer me this. Why name the Fleet Escort the Hermes-class when you had the one from TOS?
Anyhow, I'm anxious to see if the Galaxy X is going to be just another Tier 5 ship, or if she's going to be somewhat unique.
Multiple reasons, but it basically comes down to this:
The name sounds cool, and that ship is not technically canon, so the name is available.
But I don't have any friends who will play a Star Trek Game. soooo... I'm SOL.
Tell you what Cryptic... You move it to the C-Store, and I will give you the moneies for the costume. You can give the Recruiter boyz some other awesome perk that you won't have a rabid fan boi attack over. ;-)
Yeah, it does sound cool and Cryptic's ships aren't technically canon either. Guess you could say its a nice nod to the Franz Jospeh Community.
Having read the first few pages of this forum, I have to agree with just this part: Yes. I do want a Federation ship that cloaks because Sisko had one.
Additionally, while it is true that the Galaxy X is from a timeline that might never come to pass, it does not make it irrelevant. let's not kid ourselves with words like "canon" or "gene's rules". This is a game for entertainments sake. Would I fly a Galaxy X: No. to me it's ugly as sin. however it doesn't mean i want to rob other people who want to fly one of that right. I do however find the argument over who should get it....funny really.
I doubt you will see....let's say more than 10 of those ships in game. ever. Assuming the current guidelines are accurate with regards to who will have one. That said, it would not preclude Cryptic from offering it later through the C-Store or a different promotional program. I do however think giving the people who CAN recruit players into the game something for their trouble is a good idea. So, no don't delete it, don't make overly available at this time. Let the people who complete this task, impossible though it may seem have the ship. Just make sure they actually EARN it please.
*sigh* Plenty of ways for them to sell off something with unique gameplay factors when anything like that should be earnable in game (even if gated behind some obscenely difficult requirements).
You could also just buy 5 accounts...
Everything in the Star Trek TV shows and Movies is in fact canon. I think what you might be trying to say here is the ship is from an alternate timeline in the episode titled "All Good Things".
P.S. A cannon is artillery equipment. Canon means a rule or especially body of rules or principles generally established as valid and fundamental in a field or art or philosophy
P.S.S. In fact, only the material in the shows and movies is canon. Nothing else is.
P.S.S.S. Now, if you accept such things as the Mirror Universe, then you also have to accept the so called "Galaxy X" ship, right along with "J.J. Trek" and every other tv show or movie that dealt with an alternate timeline or alternate reality...however you wish to term it, it means the same thing: everything is real.
Now go chew on that for a bit, but don't let it twist your noodle too much. :eek:
Not only that, but this reasoning would also exclude the much more popular Olympic-class, which is from the same episode and in the same alternate timeline. The Olympic set the precedent; although, for the sake of transparency, I don't care for this AGT Galaxy. I care for it being called the "Galaxy-X" even less.
GB I think you missed the gist of my logic: Cryptic is going to use anything from Trek that they think is cool for the game. Canon is just a technicality and more has gone into explaining away canon that has ever gone in to supporting it. Star Trek itself quite frequently contradicts its own facts!
You can either swim with or against the current. I tend to agree with ZootCadillac on such things: It's better to fight than switch.