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I think I've got a viable solution for Cryptic concerning how to make the Galaxy X functional and fair in-game.
Cryptic has stated before that they would have to make the big cannon functional if they made it but that seems unfair at first. This is how you do it.
First, The Galaxy X should be a tier 5 cruiser. Sell it in the C-Store for 1000 credits. Give it 4 rear slots and only 3 standard front slots with an auxiliary slot for 1 single beam array of any energy type. Place a special button for the use of that slot on the hud. When used, the big cannon would fire a blast similar to Beam Overload 3. The off-set would be a 2-fold. After using the big cannon, it sets all energy weapons on a 20 second cool down and places the use of the big cannon on a 2 minute cool down.
So after use, you would have only torpedoes for a 20 second count. The other off-set would be that you only have 3 standard forward slots since your trading up 1 for big cannon use only. As far as I can tell, the trade offs puts it on equal footing with other Tier 5 cruisers, adds something cool to the game and does so without adding an unfair advantage.
Thoughts?
Cryptic has stated before that they would have to make the big cannon functional if they made it but that seems unfair at first. This is how you do it.
First, The Galaxy X should be a tier 5 cruiser. Sell it in the C-Store for 1000 credits. Give it 4 rear slots and only 3 standard front slots with an auxiliary slot for 1 single beam array of any energy type. Place a special button for the use of that slot on the hud. When used, the big cannon would fire a blast similar to Beam Overload 3. The off-set would be a 2-fold. After using the big cannon, it sets all energy weapons on a 20 second cool down and places the use of the big cannon on a 2 minute cool down.
So after use, you would have only torpedoes for a 20 second count. The other off-set would be that you only have 3 standard forward slots since your trading up 1 for big cannon use only. As far as I can tell, the trade offs puts it on equal footing with other Tier 5 cruisers, adds something cool to the game and does so without adding an unfair advantage.
Thoughts?
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I know... whacky thought isnt it...
As for the rest, I don't really have an opinion, I'd expect this cannon requires you to point the ship at your target. Being that this thing is a large cruiser, you'll only get to fire off one, maybe 2 shots with that cannon before you're back to using phasers broadside again. So all the special limitations might be overkill.
Anyway, just my opinion.
I also think it would be worthwhile for them to include another way (in-game) to acquire it, but I personally think it should be very difficult to do so.
Its the effort that adds to the special awesomeness factor.
Wheres the Special variations of THOSE ships eh ?
We can have...
Incursion - Escort
Gimick power - Holographic Masking
Nebula - Science
Gimick Power - Enhanced Sensor Scan
Not that I really give a damn about the Galaxy-X but there is a difference between MR.X flashy skin that does nothing special and Oh look mr. X just hit me, and Y others with a 5k - 10k split beam attack.
The former makes no real combat advantage, the latter offers someone an actual gameplay advantage by being able to do more damage regadless of how much it is.
We are going to hear some political answers like "there will be similar T5 ship skins... just wait... season 2.0 etc."
They have no idea how to deal with their most loyal player base. The MMO freaks are mostly gone, they reached RA5 months ago and two weeks later they left. Who's left? Right, the Star Trek-Fanbase which don't care much about MMO balance, and huge content. And what's important for these players? Right. New Ships, correct details, more Races, functional bridges, ship interiors...
And what do they do? Kicking the butts of these players by getting the coolest items to a stupid referral program...
Unbelievable.
Not to sound cynical, but I would say that they're not playing to the LTS's anyway. LTS's gave a big chuunk of change to help get the game through the first few months to a year, but they're not longer the lifeblood of the game, or at least won't be for long. Cryptic has the LTSs' money, and if the game goes on for longer than about two years the LTS's become a liability to them, in fact. The monthly subscribers are the ones that keep the game -- any MMO, really -- going. To that end, play time as reward would be in keeping with other MMOs that have referral programs, and would be of value to the monthlies.
But agreed, they would need something to appeal to the Science and Tactical people as well (unless there's a couple of Universal consoles on that Galaxy-X.) But then there needs to be something appealing to the Klingon players, too, now that I think about it, and I'm not sure what Klink ship was all that iconic that isn't in the game already.
I agree with what you are saying, but LTS customers may still make purchases via the C-Store and expansion packs, so they do continue to bring funds into the game.
Oh right, refer people and now you get:
A coveted skin
PLUS an extra power,
PLUS a holographic BO,
PLUS a new Tribble,
PLUS the ability to instantly warp to them,
PLUS a damage buff / XP Buff for flying with your referrals
Want to produce an incentive to get 5 people without using a ship to get it ?
Refer 5 friends and get:
Free Time
Free Extra Character slots
Free Respec
Free Extra Costume Slots
Free Extra Ship Slots
Free PRE-ORDER bonus items / Uniforms.
Since the PRE-ORDER items are essentially worthless beyond the starter ranks and the Uniforms remain cosmetic. That would have no effect on gameplay and give no specific advantage to anyone.
Iconic?
What?
It's a future that never happened timeline ship that appeared in one episode.
It's not iconic at all.
The fact so many people remember it, lobby for it and willing to get fleeced for it should demonstrate this rather well.
Just because its in one episode or from a different timeline does not negate the fact it is iconic.
Nobody was lobbying for it. There are hundreds of threads for the Excelsior. That's the ship people were lobbying for. And are still lobbying for. And will keep lobbying for.
There are dozens of threads where people are lobbying for The Galaxy (not the three nacelled Future That Never Happened one) ... the Defiant ... and the Intrepid to be available at T5. Which seems to be what we'll be getting for FREE.
The Galaxy X? Not iconic at all.
The Galaxy? Very iconic.
What throws me off about this debate is that, in Beta, I was begging for the Galaxy X and the playerbase then said that 3 nacelles was ugly, that the ship belonged to another timeline, that 3 nacelles went against Gene Roddenberry's and Matt Jeffries' vision, etc. The strongest support was an, "Eh. It might be cool."
I moved on, realizing I don't really like Cruisers except for show.
NOW, everyone is upset...? Where were these people before?
I think it's more about people who don't like rewards being tied to anything but achievement or the idea that they can't have everything than the Galaxy-X itself being that special or iconic.
Whereas I think Cryptic has been very clear about going for a "nobody can have everything" approach.
IMHO, to hammer this home, we should start seeing missions (non-repeatable) where you have to choose one of four bound cosmetic rewards but nobody can have all of them. And then have no way to obtain all four. And refuse to offer the others in the C-Store.
Just to hammer home that money and skill and time will not get you everything, that nobody has everything, that nobody is entitled to more than 25% of everything. Because it promotes real, honest-to-goodness diversity of some kind if the majority of things in game are something no one person can have, regardless of Cryptic Points or STF completions or persistence. You get what you get. Nobody gets a complete set of anything for any reason.
That's the direction I'd like to see MMOs head. Then people might focus on what they like instead of what they can have that other people can't or "keeping up with the Joneses".
Honestly, with this much buzz now, does anyone really think they're going to make this ship easier for anyone to obtain?
I honestly don't think it will ever be on the Cryptic Store. Subscriptions are infinitely more valuable than any small sum worth of C-Points that the ship would be worth. Unless it were worth at least five LIfetime Subs worth of C-Points. That's 96,000 C-Points, BTW, which makes this the most expensive ship in the game
Prometheus, Doomsday Machine, Crystaline Entity (wait no fair it had 2 eps! oh snap AGT was a 2 parter!)... Enterprise C (one episode), Enterprise B (one movie and only at the beginning!)...
and maybe it has something to do with the fact that it was the FINAL Episode of TNG?
..."alternate timeleine that did non happen", uhm the 2 Negh'Var Klingon Ships seen there the first time did not happen? Strange, they are pretty much everywhere now.
Even the Enterprise-J from ENT has a Fanbase and that ship wasnt even shown properly.
"iconic" might not be the right word... "important" is more like it.
Indeed, they should clarify it: you only get one nacelle per 5 people recruited. All 3 requires recruiting 15...
Even stranger ... Data's in the future timeline of that episode.
And yet ... dead in the current canon timeline.
Nah ... Q's Anti-Time was a probable future. That will not happen the way it did in the show. There's no warp 13. Data does not leave starfleet to become a professor.
No, they should definitely let this be gotten from recruiting, c-store and as STF reward. Let people get it the way they want to.
As for the other two classes getting a ship, how about offering the Deploy-able Armored Intrepid for Science and a Multi-Vector assault mode Prometheus for Tactical. Have all three for sale from the C-Store for 2000 a piece for those who don't want to wait, A reward for STF and a choice of one of the 3 for part of the reward for recruitment.
They already said what they're going to do with the "tier" of ships that the AGT Enterprise fits into ...
A T5 Galaxy (regular galaxy), Defiant and Intrepid.
This is probably the easiest route for them to take ... and it is something a ton of fans have asked for. Far more than have asked for the AGT Enterprise.
Oh, absolutely. That's certainly a good point. I was referring only to the subs.
Though we'll never see the numbers, it'd be interesting to see how much income is gained from the C-Store and similar MTs.
Ice cream on a jelly sandwich seems to be an odd pairing.....
how did it end up in the place where your brain is supposed to be?!
Baffling... oh yes....
True, but my idea is cooler.
Data is alive in the game, mind you.
Though he's commanding the Enterprise.
Which was first suggested as a possible future in Peter David's novel Imzadi (set in 2405). (I hope they use Data's crew from Imzadi as the templates for the Enterprise Bridge crew, in part.)
And what did Imzadi do? It inspired All Good Things, particularly the Worf/Riker dynamic there.
I think Imzadi is arguably the most important Trek novel ever written in terms of its influence on subsequent works, both canon and otherwise.
As above, yes, that's a very good point. I hadn't taken the C-Store into account in my statement.
In theory, all players have an equal voice; in practice, some are a bit louder than others.
And that book was also inspired in part by the TOS episode The City on the Edge of Forever, which is regarded as the best Star Trek Episode ever. On another note Imazdi was also the last book that Gene Roddenberry gave his blessing to create before his death. That more or less solidifies the arguement for its importance.