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STO Performance and Frame Rate Guide v1.0

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Since I haven't seen one, I thought I'd take the time to create a performance guide. Maybe you're trying to play STO on an older system, or have a few hardware pieces that need an upgrade. Well you can still play the game at a playable frame rate, you just need to tweak it. This is a guide to increase game performance meaning, the game will run faster, quicker and give a better FPS rate for playing. Less pretty stuff, more bang for your buck.

Update: 3/16/2011 - Added thread link for more Wine/Linux performance

Legend - In-Game Options - System Tweaks - Utilities and Programs - Playstyle - Recommended Setting for best FPS (RS for abbreviation) - Linux/Mac/Etc

*note* recommended for those in need of FPS

In-Game Options Menu

In game, pres Esc and choose Options -> Video

http://www.redshirtarmy.com/tweak1.jpg

Display Mode - pretty simple, keep the game in Full Screen or Windowed Mode. Depending upon your system, one may have better performance. Even if your hardware is underpowered, Full Screen can still have some benefits, as Windows isn't having to draw the desktop and other applications in conjunction with the game. RS: Full Screen

Fullscreen resolution - How big you want the game, your field of view basically. The chief rule is, the bigger the resolution is, the more is drawn and seen by the game, so more drain on your system. You can always go to a lower resolution and generally see a framerate increase. RS: As low as you want it and/or as low as you can get to gain FPS

Fullscreen refreshrate - The speed at which your monitor will update, generally 60 is a decent setting, some people perform more. However if you're aiming for more than 60 FPS, you'll need to bump the refresh rate higher as it'll be hard capped by that rate.

Brightness - not a general performance drain, though it may make seeing darker colored objects, especially in the dark backdrop of space, easier to see.

Aspect Ration - width basically, of the display. Think, HD vs SD, generally. If you have a widescreen monitor you can crank it up to 16:9 or 16:10 etc or typical 4:3. Smaller might get you a frame or two but generally not since the game is already drawn, this is simply altering how you view it. RS: 4:3 or Auto

Monitor Vertical Sync - This will attempt to keep your fps in sync, but it takes up a little bit of resources, and most often if you're trying to tweak FPS, then you really don't have the power to keep a constant FPS to begin with. Some debate this is better on rather than off, you can experiment but in my gaming lifetime, having this off in a game has always boosted performance. RS: Off

Half Resolution - Now this, is a very very very good way to boost your FPS. Basically, everything but the in-game HUDs, get a massive lowering of quality. Poly count, texture detail, etc (from a visual perspective at least). It will make the game look bad, but a large performance increase. So if you can live without eye candy, and really want a better FPS, this is the option for you. RS: On

Now, onto more options. In the same dialog as seen in http://www.redshirtarmy.com/tweak1.jpg you want to checkmark Show Advanced Video Settings, and scroll down for more options.

Antialiasing - AA for short, it generally rounds off objects that are round. Turning this setting higher makes less "jaggies" on graphics but at a performance decrease. So if you have a way to turn it off, do so. Slightly graphic decrease but a performance increase. RS: None/Off

Dynamic Lighting - pretty colors. generally makes lamps or any lightsource more vibrant and nice, but at the cost of performance. RS: Off

Lighting Quality - simple as it sounds, more quality less frames, less quality better performance. RS: Low

Max Lights Per Object - limitation of how many lights per thing in the game world. Less is better. RS: 2 (lowest setting I can find

Max Shadowed Lights - same as above roughly, but with shadows and effects. Less is better. RS: 1 (lowest setting I can find

Texture Anisotropic Filtering - a method for texture quality/deployment. Some games let you toggle between bi or tri filtering, less is better. RS: Off

http://www.redshirtarmy.com/tweak2.jpg - Scroll down some and we'll look into more settings

World Texture Quality - quality of world objects (planets, items, etc). less is better. 50% (lowest setting I can find)

Character Texture Quality - same as above but for character models, pretty sure this includes ships as well. less is better. RS: 50% (lowest setting I can find)

World Detail Distance - draw distance in a fashion, from a point where the world starts to decrease or increase quality depending upon range. less is better RS: 25% (lowest setting I can find).

Terrain Detail Distance - same as above but for terrain. less is better. RS: 75% (lowest setting I can find).

Character Detail Distance - again same as the above. less, always better. RS: 50% (lowest setting I can find.

Show High Detail Objects - we don't want high detail if we are aiming for better FPS. RS: Off.

Max Physics Debris Objects - amount of stuff that goes boom when you pewpewpew. Less, better. RS: 0

Postprocessing - debatable if you want it on off, some games in my experience it helps, sometimes not. I play without it. RS: Off.

Visual FX Quality - quality of effects, while nice to look at, more of a drain so less will be good. RS: Low.

Soft Particles - less quality, more bang for your buck. Not 100% sure which all effects in game this involves but less is always better. RS: Off

Shadows - while cool and add a nice graphical touch especially when done right, they are more of a system drain, no need for them. RS: Off

Bloom Quality - that fuzzle glow things can have, its beautiful but not needed if you can disable it. Same goes for Bloom Intensity. RS: Off

Screen-space Ambient Occlusion - basically, pixel shading, with some other geometrics thrown in. Your GPU already has a certain level of pixel shading it can handle, so off this goes. RS: Off

Cinematic Focus - more quality you don't need. less is better. RS: Off

Underwater view - gimmicky setting, you don't really need it. RS: Off.

Reflection Quality - some objects like water or shiny metal of ships have a reflective surface, so while pretty, less is better for performance. RS: Off

http://www.redshirtarmy.com/tweak3.jpg - Now, here's a great place in the Options menu most people over look, the Troubleshoot tab, click this to open some great choices.

Framerate Stablizer - if you've ever seen options in an MMO to maintain a certain FPS, this works similar. Once your frame rate reaches a point of X, sometimes these functions kick in to try to maintain a FPS of a certain level. And it will also help keep things in check, if it sees you heading into a big battle with a lot of frame rate lag, it'll divert more resources to process it all. RS: On

Auto-stabalize Framerate - I'm fairly certain this performs the above function, automatically. More testing to be done, for now it can't hurt. RS: On

Limit CPU Usage When Inactive - if you need to say, Alt+Tab out of the game for something, this feature hard limits the resources STO will use in the background until you bring it to the active foreground again. Trust me, if you're looking up a lot of information while playing STO, this can be handy on a lower end machine. RS: On

Multi-core Rendering - for people who have dual core or quad core CPU's, this ain't too bad. Some might debate against it but it seems to work fine for me and I'm simply running an Intel 2 core cpu @ 2ghz per. It splits up the graphical rendering on the various cores. Try it and see if it helps you. RS: On

Use Full Detail Character Animation - more detail and such for characters and animations. eye candy is again nice but less is better. RS: Off

GPU Accelerated Particles - this offloads some of the graphical work of particles back onto the video card (graphical processing unit). Purdy stuff but less is better. RS: Off

Reduced File Streaming - I believe this lowers how much the game streams and/or loads a zone information to you as you move area to area. I personally don't use it. RS: Off

Now click Apply then Ok, STO may restart but you should see a good increase in framerate if you changed the settings.

Lets go over one tab at the top to http://redshirtarmy.com/tweak4.jpg

Believe it or not but disable some of these can give a small boost. I mean most of these are simply the text or identifier above objects, players, etc. You might want player names displayed, but not Fleet names. Sure, turn off Fleet names. So on and so forth. Imagine being in a full instance with all names displayed, not compare it to with minimal names displayed, there'd be a frame rate or two increase. RS: Personal Preference

Sounds - Believe it or not but churning out the hip vibrations of the game can lower performance some. If you've got a dedicated sound card and a decent system, on is fine. Low end systems with an integrated sound card, might see a slight boost with it off. RS: Off
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    System Tweaks

    Now, if you've never did anything with Windows processes or tasks or such, here is a great time to learn.
    Windows Update - simply keeping Windows updated can keep up your performance of the OS itself, usually. Not to mention security fixes,you can usually find some tweaks and updates of things here, never know when a slightly updated version of DirectX is released. Visit the Windows Update Site for updates,or you can do it from within Windows itself (Start Menu, plus some people have it on automatically).

    BlackVipers Process Guide - located at http://www.blackviper.com/ pick which operating system you have (most people use Windows). If you have Vista,XP,etc there is a guide there. You should see inside each guide, a massive table of all Processes that Windows runs in the background. Did you know most of these are unneeded for every day gaming? Take this example chartl, you can see how BV shows you a variety of setups from a "gaming" setup,to completely barebones with everything off you need. This will vary per system (my laptop has some services a desktop won't) but you get the idea. Simply look at his site,pick the setup you want, and tweak.

    Open Start - Run - type in Services.msc (or if you are using Vista/Win 7 hold the Windows Key and press R) this will open up the services administration panel with all the process and services on your system listed here. You may see some listed as running some not.

    Simply follow the guide on BlackViper's site, and go down the list. I personally go by the "Safe" setup,and disable / stop all processes that aren't absolutely needed for Windows to function normally. If you opened your Task Manager before this,you might see 60,70,or even more processes listed, going by the guide there, you can trim that down to around 40 or less,or even better depending upon your system. Don't worry,it's safe and you can re-enable something should you need it later. RS: "Safe" list from the OS guide

    You can also check processes that are set to startup but may not necessarily have a service assigned to them that goes along with it.

    Open Start - Run - type in Msconfig (or if you are using Vista/Win 7 hold the Windows Key and press R) and after msconfig is open, click the Startup tab. These are all the applications Windows loads on boot up into the desktop environment. You can google what each one is if you're unsure. Otherwise uncheck the ones you don't want,hit Ok. Reboot. Less stuff running now.

    Anti Virus Software - If you don't use an anti viral product, please do. There are some decent free ones, Avast, AVG or Kaspersky are some good choices. Download one, update it, scan your PC and keep it clean of viruses. (if its got process that run in the background, you can disable those at least while playing STO). If you want a paid a.v., there are more choices, I'd recommend Nod32 (its lightweight, scans fast, and catches just about anything).


    Jotti's online scan lets you pick a file and run it against a few dozen scanners at once. Only drawback is it's just a file at a time,so if you have something singular that you think is suspicious, this is a good way to do a broad scan. It's free too.

    Housecall is TrendMicros virus scan on the fly. It's a free scan you can do from just about any web browser,as long as you have Java installed. Download the plugin, and let it run. This makes a great secondary anti virus in conjunction with your regular installed version,since it requires no download/install,just a small plugin and an internet connection.

    Anti Spyware Software - just like their big brother anti virus software,anti spyware will keep your system running lean. You wouldn't believe how many tracking cookies just general non-TRIBBLE surfing will generate. Toss in people using unsecure browsers (IE) or surfing some rather untrustworthy websites (warez,TRIBBLE,etc) that's a lotta spyware. Download and install some anti spyware software such as Spybot/Search & Destroy, MalwareBytes,or some alternatives to anti spyware that help point out infected processes or files, such as HijackThis.

    GPU Drivers (Video Card Drivers) - You'll want to keep your drivers up to date. Whether or not you have an ATI card or a Nvidia,there's usually up to date drivers for it unless its many years old. You can get ATI Drivers, right here and you can get Nvidia Drivers, right here. If you aren't sure what video card you have,Right Click My Computer - Properties - Hardware - Device Manager and select Display Adaptor & you should see the model of the GPU listed there. If it's an intergated card like an Intel on board video card,check Intel's website.

    Turn off Programs - Unless you need it, turn off everything else. If your system needs the power to go into STO,having iTunes or Winamp open to listen to music might not be so good. You don't need your various IM applications open either,I'm sure you can deal without AIM/Yahoo/MSN/ICQ for a period of time while you play. Keeping files downloading in the background,like streaming a large highdef movie from Netflix or Youtube can hamper things,and even if you're using bittorrent for a legitimate purpose,turn it off while playing to see a performance increase.

    Check Your Peripheral Hardware - that USB mouse and keyboard may be nice, on lower end systems, could drain more resources. Not much of an issue for modern pc's. Recommend a normal PS/2 connection if using low end PC.

    Utilities and Programs

    There are a couple other ways to tweak things a bit within your system.

    Game Booster - I know what your thinking, this has to be some crappy piece of spyware that doesn't really do anything and comes from a rather small company. I thought so too at first. But I tried it. Of course I scanned it with every anti virus I could think of and spyware too,it was clean. All Gamebooster does is provide a method in one single gui, to check your current running Processes ( http://www.teknobites.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/game_booster.jpg | http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/game_booster.gif ),and it has a built in list of which ones aren't absolutely needed. So if you didn't use BlackVipers guide or still had a few processes you could live without,GameBooster gives you the option to turn them off,AND once you are doing playing,with one easy click GameBooster turns those processes right back on. Think of it as process management for those that want it simpler or might not know much about how to deal with them. And to top it off,it's free. No trial or limitations really, just free. Nab it at the Official Game Booster site.

    CCleaner - a freeware registry cleaner,a lot of old programs leave TRIBBLE in the registry which here and there ain't so bad but a ton of over time and drain some performance. CCleaner lets you go in and delete some of this extra stuff. Now,WARNING,if you mess with your Registry in windows and make some critical mistake,thats not good. Make a backup of your registry and research what you are removing and see if it is safe to remove before even thinking of it. You can get at CCleaner's site

    Defrag - I lump this into programs cause,while Windows has a default defrag utility, some people prefer others. And there are many to list, so I've leave it with this; defragging once every month or two helps. A traditional HDD breaks down into tiny little sectors, each one containing X amount of information of a program, split across many areas. Think of it like a really big jigsaw puzzle. Your system can piece it back together each time, but just like trying a new puzzle, you might not complete as fast as your last puzzle, or you might lose a piece of a puzzle making reassembling it time consuming while you find the piece or lost completely. HDD's work similarily, and defrag helps keep all the pieces in a neater package for faster easier reassembling. You can use the default tool Windows offers or there are a plethora of defrag tools available online,free and paid.

    Playstyle

    Field of View - A staple of reducing some lag and gaining a frame or two. Instead of playing with your ship/avatar/toon zoomed all the way out,zoom in some. You'll notice the closer you zoom, the more frames you net. Now it's not going to be a huge increase but if there is an area of the game, say a high populated area in an instance that maybe slows down your rig, you could zoom in and possibly look down. Depending upon your activities (fighting,tradeskilling,etc) you could walk through that area fine, other times you may need to adjust to what you're doing.

    HUD Placement/Removal - Now at the moment we really can't remove HUDS or make drastic changes to the UI, but you can minimize some of them. This won't get you a huge increase but if you can live with a smaller chat hud, or some things shrunk down, every little bit of stuff your PC doesn't have to draw graphically can help. At least, this has always been my experience in mmorpgs.

    Linux/Mac/etc

    Getting STO to function in a different OS - there's been some discussion on this, mainly a good back & forth going on in Someenigma's STO Under Wine/Linux/Mac thread. This will show you how to get it run.

    And this thread, helps Linux/Wine Performance.


    That should make STO more playable if you need it to be. Updates will come to the guide as needed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    1/22 - Updated with a few more links to information and a new subsection for non-Windows OS. More to come soon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    This needs to be stickied, in my opinion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ahh, nice thread! :) Have to point out one thing tho, typically its recommeneded to run any game at the same resolution of your desktop.., not sure why but it been a rule of thumb Ive always followed.

    Keep up the excellent work/thread!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Update - fixed a couple of links that were broken, updated the Anti Virus section with more options and added a couple new screenshots. More to come later (when I can pry myself away from the beta lol..)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Phelissa wrote: »
    Ahh, nice thread! :) Have to point out one thing tho, typically its recommeneded to run any game at the same resolution of your desktop.., not sure why but it been a rule of thumb Ive always followed.

    Keep up the excellent work/thread!!

    I think this is to stop crashing out when you go from full screen to desktop via alt+tab in XP. its fine in windows 7 though
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Great thread.

    My system has just started to have probs with STO so I need to 'fine-tune' things.

    What is the command to show FPS in-game?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Overall it's good, but there ae still a few problems with your descriptions and help that need tweaking.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Half resolution doesnt do what you seem to think it does... it does what it says. It halves the choosen resolution and stretches that to your "actual resolution", does not effect polycount or anything else.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Aside from some errors, it's not too bad.

    Some that i noticed after a quick glance...

    Malwarebytes you have listed under Anti-Virus, it is not AV it is anti malware/spyware

    Peripheral hardware being USB over PS/2 makes no difference in gaming. Sometimes in fast paced First Person Shooters older usb mice can lag a few milliseconds in its response time, but does nothing to effect Frame Rate.

    You want GPU Accelerated Particles to be turned ON not OFF to help FPS.

    Sound. Given the minimum requirements to play STO, if you meet these then sound will not cause you any loss of fps, especially if you have a sound card, which most gamers do. If you are among the "casual" gamers then you may have just an onboard audio card, which still would not effect fps due to the multi core cpu.

    If you put all your video settings to what you recommend then STO will look like some MMO from the 90's. :(

    I would STRONGLY advise people to not use Viper's Process Guide unless they are very comfortable with making changes to their computer that may very well render it inoperable if done wrong, resulting in a need for a total reinstall of the OS

    Good advice would be to make sure your drivers are current, windows is updated, HD is defragged, and you click the "Recommended" button under video settings. Things should work pretty well from there.

    I applaud the effort though even if I don't agree with the advice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I appreciate and agree with the System Tweaks section of your guide, but I don't understand the point of explaining how to turn all the in game settings down. I assume everyone would already know that to improve framerate, they need to lower settings. All systems are different, and any combination of adjustments being just one singe option or ten, could have different results for different users.

    If a complete tech noob came in and followed your guide, lowering all the settings to what you wrote in yellow, they would log into a game that looked no better 1980's Space Invaders for the Atari 2600.

    Again, cheers for the system tweaks section, that kind of stuff really helps people out. I defrag and run CCleaner weekly myself.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    iTod wrote:
    Great thread.

    My system has just started to have probs with STO so I need to 'fine-tune' things.

    What is the command to show FPS in-game?


    Well, /fpsgraph 1 will turn on a graph to show spikes in fps slowdown (purple spikes). I'm still hunting for a FPS command that will display a numerical value, maybe if a Dev would read this they could point it out for us?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Aside from some errors, it's not too bad.

    Peripheral hardware being USB over PS/2 makes no difference in gaming. Sometimes in fast paced First Person Shooters older usb mice can lag a few milliseconds in its response time, but does nothing to effect Frame Rate.

    Sound. Given the minimum requirements to play STO, if you meet these then sound will not cause you any loss of fps, especially if you have a sound card, which most gamers do. If you are among the "casual" gamers then you may have just an onboard audio card, which still would not effect fps due to the multi core cpu.

    If you put all your video settings to what you recommend then STO will look like some MMO from the 90's. :(

    I would STRONGLY advise people to not use Viper's Process Guide unless they are very comfortable with making changes to their computer that may very well render it inoperable if done wrong, resulting in a need for a total reinstall of the OS

    Well, we agree on some points but not others.

    - USB devices CAN drain resources. Back in like 02' I played EQ for a few months, on a PII 600 Mhz 64 mb ram TRIBBLE Intel onboard video and sound. Needless to say my FPS was TRIBBLE, and I was using a USB keyboard and mouse at the time. Sometimes my system would be so slow, I'd take a look at System Resources (this was 98SE) and see it down at like 80% or less, with just the login screen for EQ up. When I switched to a typical PS/2 setup, that percentage went from 80's up to 90's. Sure, it may have been just a weird system config but USB devices draw power and resources from a PC, and like the guide says most modern PC's don't have any issues with this but hey, ya never know for an older machine.

    - Sound can affect performance, if you're using onboard sound, a single core CPU, with not a lot of ram and onboard video? Yea, turning off sounds will net you a few more frames. Every bit of resources your system can save on such a low end pc as that example, is helpful.

    - Oh it will "look" like TRIBBLE, I agree but it will be playable. For some people, they'd rather have bad looking graphics and the ability to play rather than pretty graphics and a frame rate so low it's impossible to play.

    As for Black Viper's guide, as long as you are smart about it, do some research, it's fine if you follow it. If you are unsure what a process does, Services.msc lists a description on the left hand side of the dialog for each service you select, or at the very least you can Google the service and get a more layman description. I personally advise using it, strongly. There are so many processes running by default you might not need. Like Printer Spooler? I don't have a printer, don't use one, and that service is always running on system bootup, turn it off. (just one of MANY examples).

    I'll edit with updated descriptions, I was aiming for speed in making it since I saw there was a need for it so any small errors please forgive.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    - USB devices CAN drain resources. Back in like 02' I played EQ for a few months, on a PII 600 Mhz 64 mb ram TRIBBLE Intel onboard video and sound. Needless to say my FPS was TRIBBLE, and I was using a USB keyboard and mouse at the time. Sometimes my system would be so slow, I'd take a look at System Resources (this was 98SE) and see it down at like 80% or less, with just the login screen for EQ up. When I switched to a typical PS/2 setup, that percentage went from 80's up to 90's. Sure, it may have been just a weird system config but USB devices draw power and resources from a PC, and like the guide says most modern PC's don't have any issues with this but hey, ya never know for an older machine.

    - Sound can affect performance, if you're using onboard sound, a single core CPU, with not a lot of ram and onboard video? Yea, turning off sounds will net you a few more frames. Every bit of resources your system can save on such a low end pc as that example, is helpful.

    Your advice regarding usb is out of date. By your own admission, you were using a pc that was woefully underpowered and really old. If you meet the minimum system requirements to play STO, having USB devices will have no effect on fps, period.

    Regarding sound, see previous paragraph.

    I would still post a warning about using Viper's guide, to be very careful when doing so and only if you are comfortable with making system changes that can seriously effect your pc. ALL pc's are different, and yes the basic OS install does install various processes you may not need. HOWEVER, many box pc stores like Dell, Hewett-Packard, Sony, etc install alot of junk, but that junk is actually needed to operate, and removing or altering could have negative impacts on your system. i have been in the pc diagnosis and repair business for over 15 years and have seen this many times. A little warning would go along way.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The command for an fps counter is:

    /showfps 1
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    agantara wrote:
    The command for an fps counter is:

    /showfps 1

    Thanks :)

    Now for some 'fiddling' with the eye candy settings :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    agantara wrote:
    The command for an fps counter is:

    /showfps 1

    Awesome thanks :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    NICE! :D +rep if that was even possible

    Cryptic devs and/or community reps, this thread should really be stickied. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solid suggestions for those struggling with producing a good framerate.

    I'd like to make some recommendations and comments about a few of these options, specifically...
    mavgeek wrote: »
    Aspect Ration - width basically, of the display. Think, HD vs SD, generally. If you have a widescreen monitor you can crank it up to 16:9 or 16:10 etc or typical 4:3. Smaller might get you a frame or two but generally not since the game is already drawn, this is simply altering how you view it. RS: 4:3 or Auto

    This should actually always be on auto unless the client isn't determining their aspect ratio properly. It should not affect performance (or have a nominal impact). For example, if a person is running a 16:9 monitor but sets it to 4:3, things are going to look skewed, but it's not going to affect performance.
    mavgeek wrote: »
    Monitor Vertical Sync - This will attempt to keep your fps in sync, but it takes up a little bit of resources, and most often if you're trying to tweak FPS, then you really don't have the power to keep a constant FPS to begin with. Some debate this is better on rather than off, you can experiment but in my gaming lifetime, having this off in a game has always boosted performance. RS: Off

    Vertical sync is still a good thing to leave enabled. Why? Even if they're getting less frames per second on average for gameplay, they're going to get much, much more on a static loading screen that's still rendering via DirectX. Having vertical sync enabled should reduce GPU load (and thus temps) while people are stuck on loading screens, and that's always a good thing. I don't think there's any performance hit if you leave it on even if you GPU isn't getting close to your monitor refresh rate during normal gameplay conditions.
    mavgeek wrote: »
    Underwater view - gimmicky setting, you don't really need it. RS: Off.

    Yup, I agree, off for people struggling with performance. However, I believe this has to do with how the environment is rendered when you're either 1.) viewing a pool or water and seeing what's under it, or 2.) when viewing the environment while under water. Not sure which, as I haven't tested it. But it does serve a purpose and I agree they can leave it off to help performance. :)
    mavgeek wrote: »
    Reduced File Streaming - I believe this lowers how much the game streams and/or loads a zone information to you as you move area to area. I personally don't use it. RS: Off

    It depends. This is a performance enhancer if the user has a good deal of video memory. For example, they might have a cruddy, weak video card, but with 1GB of video memory. I'd say if a user has over 512MB of video memory (ie: 640MB and up), they should enable this for better performance. If they have less (ie: 320MB, 256 MB, etc.), they should disable to improve performance. 512MB is probably close to where it evens out, but that's just an educated guess from testing STO with the various PCs and video cards I have.

    Nice job on the write up! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I recently sat down and took some screen shots comparing the low vs. high detail settings in STO. These pics can give you a decent idea of what you can expect if following the OP's great advice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i was one of the many who were stuck in a loading screen for light years....then a read a post concerning graphical settiins, and decided to turn everything waaaaaay down. pow! it has loaded great every time!

    so now here is my question: are there specific options i can tweak that will only slighty hinder performance? i know my specifica card / computer can make a world of difference...i guess i'm looking for features that only pose a minor dip in fps.

    for example, i have noticed in the games that i play, that if i turn shadows to low or off, i get a massive increase in framerate, which allows much room to tweak in other areas. however, i still get a ton of lag from the Starbase 24 fight.

    since i don't have a fps counter for STO, i can't get an exact idea of which features will work for me. can anyone break down the above (and by the way, wonderfully detailed) list into categories of major and minor fps tweaks? yes i know, it is comp specific ultimately, but please, humor me!

    thanks so much for your post, this has helped me immensly!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Don't most of the graphic options tooltips already give this information (just hover over the option)? I guess its nice having the info listed in the forums (along with some other general OS performance tips), but 2/3 of the guide is in-game already.

    Most of the graphic options are all very subjective anyways. My wife and I consider anti-aliasing a deal breaker when turned off (so hardly a minor graphics improvement) and ambient occlusion is a HUGE difference in graphic quality (especially on the ground). That is just the tip of the iceburg....

    The best advice you can give is just to look at the tooltips and experiment. The whole guide could be summed up with, "on" = better visual quality and "off" = better performance... just experiment a little.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    skylr616 wrote: »
    Don't most of the graphic options tooltips already give this information (just hover over the option)?

    (...)

    Most of the graphic options are all very subjective anyways.

    You just answered your own question. :) But it is subjective from a person who knows what they're talking about.
    skylr616 wrote: »
    My wife and I consider anti-aliasing a deal breaker when turned off (so hardly a minor graphics improvement)

    The OP recommended these settings, along with disabling AA, to help those who are having performance issues on older PCs and/or weak/value-line video cards. If you really want AA, but have to turn it down for performance reasons, it's time to upgrade your video card and/or PC.

    Also...

    If you have a lot of post processing effects in-game, the AA is actually going to fighting some of it (extra processing work that doesn't need to be done, let alone some objects looking worse with both enabled). Post processing effects are the way to go today and in the future, especially with DirectX 11. If done correctly, the lightning and softening effects over objects blurs edges and makes things much more realistic.

    AA was very important back when gaming resolutions were low. It's not such a hot topic these days with very high gaming resolutions and very fine dot pitch measurements on monitors. If you're seeing jaggies on your PC with AA off, then you're probably running a lower resolution coupled with a dot pitch that's too large. As monitor technology progresses, the dot pitch on a monitor will be so fine that the human eye will see diagonal lines as straight.

    In the mean time though, for mid and low quality monitors, AA is always there as an option to help.

    AA is also very inefficient. 16x AA means the GPU has to run 16 passes on each FRAME in order to smooth lines. That's a huge performance hit instead of 2x, 4x, or no AA. This is also why the numbers jump from 2, to 4, to 8, to 16. The more passes, the less noticeable difference.
    skylr616 wrote: »
    The best advice you can give is just to look at the tooltips and experiment. The whole guide could be summed up with, "on" = better visual quality and "off" = better performance... just experiment a little.

    You totally missed the point of this thread. It's to help boost performance for those who are suffering low framerates. It's not to explain what looks better. :rolleyes:

    Skylr616, this is what the OP started this thread...
    adinor wrote: »
    thanks so much for your post, this has helped me immensly!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You can TRIBBLE in a cup and there are at least a few people in the world that will thank you for it :P

    The benefits garnered from enabling/disabling the settings are subjective, not the descriptions of them (enabling/disabling does exactly what the tool tips describe). They don't give overly precise information because it all varies across different hardware configurations.

    The entire post can be summed up in "turn stuff off/down to improve performance". If the thread was really JUST about maximizing performance (and nothing to do with visual quality) then we would just tell folks to turn stuff down. The tool tips in-game already cover most of the info in this thread... I would rather teach a man to fish. Experiment!

    No one really cares about the mechanics behind any of the settings (those of us who do, already know)... experiment if you are really dissatisfied with the performance of the game... it is NOT complicated :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    skylr616 wrote: »
    You can TRIBBLE in a cup and there are at least a few people in the world that will thank you for it :P

    The entire post can be summed up in "turn stuff off/down to improve performance". If the thread was really JUST about improving performance (and nothing to do with visual quality) then we would just tell folks to turn stuff down. The tool tips in-game already cover most of the info in this thread... I would rather teach a man to fish.

    No one really cares about the mechanics behind any of the settings (those of us who do, already know)... experiment if you are really dissatisfied with the performance of the game... it is NOT complicated :P

    Then why do you bother posting here? Just to pick an argument? The OP posted something helpful to many users, yet all you want to do is put it down?

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Not everyone is as well versed as you or I are with graphic settings, nor is everyone comfortable changing advanced settings there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Then why do you bother posting here? Just to pick an argument? The OP posted something helpful to many users, yet all you want to do is put it down?

    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Not everyone is as well versed as you or I are with graphic settings, nor is everyone comfortable changing advanced settings there.

    No no! What I'm saying is that things are much easier than the OP is making them out to be. If you want more performance then turn stuff down! If something looks awful after changing a setting, turn it back on... find the right balance.

    I'm offering advice to the OP and all the people that are trying to re-invent the wheel here. If people enjoy re-reading the same info out of game then power to them. I am just trying to save some people a lot of time (since the more detailed descriptions in the OP will likely differ from your perception of the graphic changes each setting makes... the advice, essentially, becomes meaningless).

    You will not break anything by changing graphic settings... just change stuff and see what happens (there is a default button after all). You might even learn something on your own (spaghetti monster forbid!).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    skylr616 wrote: »
    No no! What I'm saying is that things are much easier than the OP is making them out to be. If you want more performance then turn stuff down! If something looks awful after changing a setting, turn it back on... find the right balance.

    I'm offering advice to the OP and all the people that are trying to re-invent the wheel here. If people enjoy re-reading the same info out of game then power to them. I am just trying to save some people a lot of time (since the more detailed descriptions in the OP will likely differ from your perception of the graphic changes each setting makes... the advice, essentially, becomes meaningless).

    You will not break anything by changing graphic settings... just change stuff and see what happens (there is a default button after all). You might even learn something on your own (spaghetti monster forbid!).

    Ah, ok, I think I see what you're trying to convey. Sorry for misunderstanding that. Your first post seemed more geared towards a put-down of the purpose of this thread.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ah, ok, I think I see what you're trying to convey. Sorry for misunderstanding that. Your first post seemed more geared towards a put-down of the purpose of this thread.

    The TRIBBLE in a cup analogy was a bit much, I admit *blush*. I get carried away when I feel I'm on the defensive.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    skylr616 wrote: »
    The TRIBBLE in a cup analogy was a bit much, I admit *blush*. I get carried away when I feel I'm on the defensive.

    No worries, happens to us all, myself included. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    A daily reminder that this REALLY needs to be stickied.
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