Optical Drive: Fixed Internal DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive including Software
I'm pretty sure that it can, although I'm not to sure about the CPU however as I have no idea as to the difference between a dual core and the duo that is listed in the requirements page of this site.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but 200 pages is alot of text to comb through.
I have bottom of the pit dsl it's 864 Kbits Down by 160 Kbits Up.
I know that the whole broadband requirement is kind of a sliding scale... but anyone know if this will work? I've played it in World of Warcraft without much fuss, but I'd like to leave that world behind and join this one.
I know I need to upgrade the broadband eventually, I'm just wondering if I can bother to put it off for another year.
Optical Drive: Fixed Internal DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive including Software
I'm pretty sure that it can, although I'm not to sure about the CPU however as I have no idea as to the difference between a dual core and the duo that is listed in the requirements page of this site.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but 200 pages is alot of text to comb through.
STO will play on it. The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 is a Class 2 GPU on the lower end. Should play well on low/med settings and low resolution.
I have bottom of the pit dsl it's 864 Kbits Down by 160 Kbits Up.
I know that the whole broadband requirement is kind of a sliding scale... but anyone know if this will work? I've played it in World of Warcraft without much fuss, but I'd like to leave that world behind and join this one.
I know I need to upgrade the broadband eventually, I'm just wondering if I can bother to put it off for another year.
It' should be OK. A Dev. said STO uses "10-50kBps"
Just updated my Driver (running a Toshiba Qosmio) GTS 9700 Graphics, yet I still get the "your system may not..." box.... Bug? It seems to play with no problems with a T1 line... I know all the drivers are updated, the Computer is new!!! I dont need to see that box everytime I login.,.... lol
Running the game with Low Low settings is smooth. Turning the game up to Mid-High to where it starts looking pretty just drags me down to like 20-25 frames...
I would hate to have to play the game on Low, it just ugly on low :cool:
What do you guys think? New processor? more Ram? Could it be the vid card? Maybe drivers?
Should I go for a GTX 260?
I went from a 7300GT to the GTS 250, of course a major improvement but I don't know, not as much as I'd like....
Running the game with Low Low settings is smooth. Turning the game up to Mid-High to where it starts looking pretty just drags me down to like 20-25 frames...
I would hate to have to play the game on Low, it just ugly on low :cool:
You should be just fine on this PC. If it's slow, you're running into some other problem that's not a hardware limitation. White Knight runs on a GTS 250 card just fine, and 2GB of RAM and a Core 2 Duo CPU should be just fine as well for at least medium to high settings.
Just updated my Driver (running a Toshiba Qosmio) GTS 9700 Graphics, yet I still get the "your system may not..." box.... Bug? It seems to play with no problems with a T1 line... I know all the drivers are updated, the Computer is new!!! I dont need to see that box everytime I login.,.... lol
I have no ideal what "your system may not" is. I just did a search for it. You need to be precise when describing your problem and hardware. There is no such thing as a GTS 9700 but there is a NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GTS. I assume this is what you have.
Can you post a DXDiag report of your PC as shown in this thread?
Running the game with Low Low settings is smooth. Turning the game up to Mid-High to where it starts looking pretty just drags me down to like 20-25 frames...
I would hate to have to play the game on Low, it just ugly on low :cool:
What do you guys think? New processor? more Ram? Could it be the vid card? Maybe drivers?
Should I go for a GTX 260?
I went from a 7300GT to the GTS 250, of course a major improvement but I don't know, not as much as I'd like....
Do as Cipher said.
When you upgraded your card did you first uninstall the old nvidia drivers first before installing the drivers? Is you Power Supply providing enough power to your system? What PSU do you have? The GTS 250 1GB has a "Minimum PSU Wattage Requirement" of 450W. What is exact make/model of the GTS 250? On the box it list the power requirement.
I am running this card and my FPS is always above 50 FPS. As matter of fact I get over 70 FPS. I am thinking that you probable need to format your hard drive and reinstall your OS.
When you upgraded your card did you first uninstall the old nvidia drivers first before installing the drivers? Is you Power Supply providing enough power to your system? What PSU do you have? The GTS 250 1GB has a "Minimum PSU Wattage Requirement" of 450W. What is exact make/model of the GTS 250? On the box it list the power requirement.
I am running this card and my FPS is always above 50 FPS. As matter of fact I get over 70 FPS. I am thinking that you probable need to format your hard drive and reinstall your OS.
this game plays very smoothly with as little as the following spec -
what i use -
crappy asrock 333 board agp
amd cempron 3000+ cpu single core 2.2mhz
1 gig of ram 2 x 512 sticks
onboard sound lol
ati x1600PRO 512 video card
windows xp service pk 2
note: i had to have netframeworks 1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 before it would actually work. i also updated graphics drivers to the omega series ati drivers, it slightly oveclocks the core gpu speed.
my loading times are something to be desired though to say the least.. while you all load in a few seconds mine can take anything from 15 seconds - 2 minutes lol depending on server load. once loaded it plays pretty smoothly.
apart from the obvious in your face lag and rubberbanding.
visual settings are run mainly at medium with the odd low setting. like shadows and the ones that make huge impacts on performace.
this game plays very smoothly with as little as the following spec -
what i use -
crappy asrock 333 board agp
amd cempron 3000+ cpu single core 2.2mhz
1 gig of ram 2 x 512 sticks
onboard sound lol
ati x1600PRO 512 video card
windows xp service pk 2
note: i had to have netframeworks 1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 before it would actually work. i also updated graphics drivers to the omega series ati drivers, it slightly oveclocks the core gpu speed.
my loading times are something to be desired though to say the least.. while you all load in a few seconds mine can take anything from 15 seconds - 2 minutes lol depending on server load. once loaded it plays pretty smoothly.
apart from the obvious in your face lag and rubberbanding.
visual settings are run mainly at medium with the odd low setting. like shadows and the ones that make huge impacts on performace.
It's amazing how people can get use to crappy game play with crappy hardware. I like smooth and beautiful game play. With setting on high so I can enjoy the game the way it is meant to be.
It's amazing how people can get use to crappy game play with crappy hardware. I like smooth and beautiful game play. With setting on high so I can enjoy the game the way it is meant to be.
You know what amazes me? How some people can be so elitist and condescending. I applaud the amount of work you do here trying to help people with their issues (this is NOT sarcasm. I have read all the things you have done), but you continually talk down to people who may not have the best understanding of hardware etc. You are always quick to tell people their hardware sucks and just buy new stuff (this is exaggeration, but that is the impression you give off quite often), when the game can be played fine with lower end machines. Not everyone requires eye candy to enjoy a game, particularly an MMO. They may just like the game itself, and playing with lots of people.
The game does run just fine on machines that are far, far below the listed minimum specs. A Dell Inspiron E1505 with a CoreDuo 1.73GHz processor, 2GB RAM and an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 can run the game with everything at medium except shadows and physics objects. Is it slow loading? Yes. Do the graphics leave something to be desired? Yes. Is the game still playable and enjoyable? Well, for you, apparently not, but for others, yes it is.
That Inspiron laptop I talked about? Yeah, that is what I used most of the time through Beta, and still occasionally use. Yes, it is a huge difference between that, and my Core2Quad with 6GB RAM and a 1 GB Geforce 9800GT. I think you do a disservice to people looking for help when you dismiss their issues as being hardware problems that there is no reason to try to make work. Let them know how much nicer things are with higher end hardware. To be sure, that is the best way to enjoy this game. Just don't throw them links to upgrade or buy new computers, just because you personally do not think the game is playable on their hardware.
You know what amazes me? How some people can be so elitist and condescending. I applaud the amount of work you do here trying to help people with their issues (this is NOT sarcasm. I have read all the things you have done), but you continually talk down to people who may not have the best understanding of hardware etc. You are always quick to tell people their hardware sucks and just buy new stuff (this is exaggeration, but that is the impression you give off quite often), when the game can be played fine with lower end machines. Not everyone requires eye candy to enjoy a game, particularly an MMO. They may just like the game itself, and playing with lots of people.
The game does run just fine on machines that are far, far below the listed minimum specs. A Dell Inspiron E1505 with a CoreDuo 1.73GHz processor, 2GB RAM and an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 can run the game with everything at medium except shadows and physics objects. Is it slow loading? Yes. Do the graphics leave something to be desired? Yes. Is the game still playable and enjoyable? Well, for you, apparently not, but for others, yes it is.
That Inspiron laptop I talked about? Yeah, that is what I used most of the time through Beta, and still occasionally use. Yes, it is a huge difference between that, and my Core2Quad with 6GB RAM and a 1 GB Geforce 9800GT. I think you do a disservice to people looking for help when you dismiss their issues as being hardware problems that there is no reason to try to make work. Let them know how much nicer things are with higher end hardware. To be sure, that is the best way to enjoy this game. Just don't throw them links to upgrade or buy new computers, just because you personally do not think the game is playable on their hardware.
Have you even play the episode the "Trap" yet. My system had a problems playing it. Read Star Trek Online: Game Performance Analyzed And Benchmarked . Since I read this 2 days ago I been tell people with older system to set Half Resolution to ON.
You have not read everything I wrote in these forums or you would have read how I got Netbook ION to run STO. Right now I am helping a laptop with a ATI Radeon 300 to run STO. But on these systems FPS is going to be between 6-24 with a lot of lag. That is not enjoyably. That's just playing the game. This is not WoW. The requirements are much higher.
Yes, I believe people should get rid of their old systems. Today demanding 3D gaming anything system not running a dual-core is outed. But at the same time I have been helping them to try to STO on these same systems. What have you been doing?
Have you even play the episode the "Trap" yet. My system had a problems playing it. Read Star Trek Online: Game Performance Analyzed And Benchmarked . Since I read this 2 days ago I been tell people with older system to set Half Resolution to ON.
You have not read everything I wrote in these forums or you would have read how I got Netbook ION to run STO. Right now I am helping a laptop with a ATI Radeon 300 to run STO. But on these systems FPS is going to be between 6-24 with a lot of lag. That is not enjoyably. That's just playing the game. This is not WoW. The requirements are much higher.
Yes, I believe people should get rid of their old systems. Today demanding 3D gaming anything system not running a dual-core is outed. But at the same time I have been helping them to try to STO on these same systems. What have you been doing?
I don't think you bothered to actually READ what I wrote. It isn't that you aren't trying to help people, it is your attitude. When you DO try to help people on low end systems, you come across as more than a little demeaning. You seem to have this great need to show everyone just how superior you are in your knowledge and your hardware. Who are you to tell other people what is enjoyable? You see? That is my point. You assume that what is best for you, is best for everyone.
Would it be great if everyone had the money to upgrade their machines? Sure. That is not realistic for everyone. Does that mean they should be relegated to 10 year old games?
I'm not new to MMOs or to IT. When a support person treats customers the way you do, it doesn't matter how much they know. You aren't official support for this game, so feel free to treat others any way you like. It would just be nice if people didn't have to be made to feel like ignorant peons for not having top of the line systems.
I've been helping people here since the specs were release. And now that the game has been release we been able to help them tweak their systems to get STO to play. If you want to help then help. If not go troll some where else.
And you are right we are not Official Support. Since these systems are below specs Cryptic will not help them. But we are.
Adar_ICT: I'd go a little easier on the ranting posts towards WhiteKnight if I were you. He's been helping a ton of people with STO for a long time. And he's better at it than the Cryptic Support who will not touch a system that doesn't meet minimum requirements.
He's never been anything but helpful to those that need it that I've seen, and you may want to at least get some more posts under your belt before you TRIBBLE with someone who's going out of his way to be helpful, and because of that, has a lot of friends on these boards.
I don't think you bothered to actually READ what I wrote. It isn't that you aren't trying to help people, it is your attitude. When you DO try to help people on low end systems, you come across as more than a little demeaning. You seem to have this great need to show everyone just how superior you are in your knowledge and your hardware.
White Knight has been helping people for a long time in this thread. He does it without reaping any rewards. There are no post counts, reputation system, or anything selfish that he could get from helping others here. I know White Knight. I've known him from this thread and from my fleet. He's a humble and honest guy. Whatever you choose to extrapolate from his posts is your business, but when you accuse him of anything less than being helpful in this thread, that's my business too. We've both helped many to spec upgrades and determine what will and won't run STO well.
Who are you to tell other people what is enjoyable? You see? That is my point. You assume that what is best for you, is best for everyone.
I don't think you get it when it comes to gaming. Do you think that just because you might get 20-30 FPS in some areas that you'll get that throughout the entire games? Different areas, different scenes, and different events are all going to have different GPU and CPU processing requirements. What might look fine in sector space might be a pita to tweak and play in more graphically-demanding areas.
There's a reason why Cryptic states high minimum requirements: they don't want people coming back to them to complain about poor performance somewhere in-game.
Would it be great if everyone had the money to upgrade their machines? Sure. That is not realistic for everyone. Does that mean they should be relegated to 10 year old games?
Gaming is a luxury. No one needs to game, and no one said it was cheap. If you want cheap with gaming that doesn't require current hardware, then you have plenty of flash games out there. If you want the latest, greatest MMO, then you better expect to purchase some new hardware if your PC is older. If you're on a budget, that's fine. That's what this thread is for, to help people who want to spend less and still enjoy STO. But there's a difference between a realistic budget and just trying to skimp to the point of not getting anything done.
I'm not new to MMOs or to IT. When a support person treats customers the way you do, it doesn't matter how much they know. You aren't official support for this game, so feel free to treat others any way you like. It would just be nice if people didn't have to be made to feel like ignorant peons for not having top of the line systems.
:rolleyes: If all you want to do is attack the people trying to help you, then no one will want to help you. Feel free to go to a Linux or similar support community and your expectations will be put into perspective. If you're offended that your PC isn't up to snuff and take offense when someone is blunt with you, then you'll drown over at those forums. At least here people genuinely try to help and are honest with you.
Adar_ICT: I'd go a little easier on the ranting posts towards WhiteKnight if I were you. He's been helping a ton of people with STO for a long time. And he's better at it than the Cryptic Support who will not touch a system that doesn't meet minimum requirements.
He's never been anything but helpful to those that need it that I've seen, and you may want to at least get some more posts under your belt before you TRIBBLE with someone who's going out of his way to be helpful, and because of that, has a lot of friends on these boards.
What kind of FPS do you get on what settings with your GTS 250?
And if you've played WOW before let me know how that runs also.
I havent been able to pick up a new PSU yet, I've been working 15 hour days. But I figure I'd stop at compusa and pick one up, they have some decent prices.
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Simply put, will the Dell Studio 17 run STO?
Here are the specs:
CPU: Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T4400 (2.2GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache)
OS: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
Display: 17.3 High Definition+ (1600x900) LED with TL
Video Card: 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570
Memory: 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
Optical Drive: Fixed Internal DVD+/-RW Slot Load Drive including Software
I'm pretty sure that it can, although I'm not to sure about the CPU however as I have no idea as to the difference between a dual core and the duo that is listed in the requirements page of this site.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but 200 pages is alot of text to comb through.
I know that the whole broadband requirement is kind of a sliding scale... but anyone know if this will work? I've played it in World of Warcraft without much fuss, but I'd like to leave that world behind and join this one.
I know I need to upgrade the broadband eventually, I'm just wondering if I can bother to put it off for another year.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=116509
Tell me whats happening here.
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2
2GB DDR2 667
MSI Geforce GTS 250 Twin Frozr 1GB
Asrock Conroe 1333
Running the game with Low Low settings is smooth. Turning the game up to Mid-High to where it starts looking pretty just drags me down to like 20-25 frames...
I would hate to have to play the game on Low, it just ugly on low :cool:
What do you guys think? New processor? more Ram? Could it be the vid card? Maybe drivers?
Should I go for a GTX 260?
I went from a 7300GT to the GTS 250, of course a major improvement but I don't know, not as much as I'd like....
You should be just fine on this PC. If it's slow, you're running into some other problem that's not a hardware limitation. White Knight runs on a GTS 250 card just fine, and 2GB of RAM and a Core 2 Duo CPU should be just fine as well for at least medium to high settings.
Can you post a DXDiag report of your PC as shown in this thread?
I have no ideal what "your system may not" is. I just did a search for it. You need to be precise when describing your problem and hardware. There is no such thing as a GTS 9700 but there is a NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GTS. I assume this is what you have.
Can you post a DXDiag report of your PC as shown in this thread?
Do as Cipher said.
When you upgraded your card did you first uninstall the old nvidia drivers first before installing the drivers? Is you Power Supply providing enough power to your system? What PSU do you have? The GTS 250 1GB has a "Minimum PSU Wattage Requirement" of 450W. What is exact make/model of the GTS 250? On the box it list the power requirement.
I am running this card and my FPS is always above 50 FPS. As matter of fact I get over 70 FPS. I am thinking that you probable need to format your hard drive and reinstall your OS.
Here's my gameprefs.pref.
PrefEntry GfxSettings.Antialiasing 4
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.BloomIntensity 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.LightingQuality 10
PrefEntry GfxSettings.MaxDebris 100
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.MaxReflection 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.MinDepthBiasFix 0
PrefEntry GfxSettings.MonitorIndex 0
PrefEntry GfxSettings.PerFrameSleep 0
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.PreloadMaterials 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.RenderScaleX 0
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.ShowAdvanced 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.SoftwareCursor 0
PrefEntry GfxSettings.SSAO 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.TexAnisotropy 4
PrefEntry GfxSettings.UseFullSkinning 1
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PrefEntry GfxSettings.VideoCardDeviceID 1557
PrefEntry GfxSettings.VideoCardVendorID 4318
PrefEntry GfxSettings.WorldDetailLevel 1
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PrefEntry Login.SaveUsername 1
PrefEntry Login.Username johnl12
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PrefEntry SystemSpecs.audioDriverOutput "Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)"
PrefEntry SystemSpecs.audioDriverVersion 6.1.7600.16385
PrefEntry SystemSpecs.audioX64CheckSkipped 0
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PrefEntry SystemSpecs.cpuCacheSize 0
PrefEntry SystemSpecs.cpuIdentifier "AMD64 Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 2, AuthenticAMD"
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Vista Service Optimizer (also works for Win7)
its has gaming mode witch temprorary shutsdown unneeded services and programs
you can download it here http://www.smartpcutilities.com/
P.S this program is 100% save i have us it for 6 months now and still cant find any problems
ati radeon hd 4350 512mb
2gig of ram
1. Yes --- Uninstalled the drivers, then installed the new drivers. I was going to install the drivers from MSI but they were older than what nvidia was offering. Should I install MSI's drivers?
2. Yes - > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148027
3. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127478
And I installed Windows 7 like 3 days ago. However, I had my 7300GT installed when Windows 7 went in and about 3 days after that I upgraded.
Also, when I get home I'll post the DXDIAG info.
Thanks guys.
Use the newer ones from Nvidia.
That PSU is under power, the +12V is only 18A. The GPU needs +12V to be 24A. This is really important.
This is off the GPU's Manuel.
"Minimum 450W or greater system power supply (with a minimum 12V current rating of 24A)"
Get one that is 80 PLUS Certified. They are better made.
Ah, I didn't notice this, thank you.
Do you think this will increase my performance?
Does this mean the video card is not utilizing its full potential?
Can it be damaged because of this?
Yes Yes I don't know. it could but I think we got it early enough.
You'll learn that you shouldn't get cheap parts. It's ways ends up costing more in the long run. Always research before making a purchase.
what i use -
crappy asrock 333 board agp
amd cempron 3000+ cpu single core 2.2mhz
1 gig of ram 2 x 512 sticks
onboard sound lol
ati x1600PRO 512 video card
windows xp service pk 2
note: i had to have netframeworks 1.0 2.0 2.5 3.0 before it would actually work. i also updated graphics drivers to the omega series ati drivers, it slightly oveclocks the core gpu speed.
my loading times are something to be desired though to say the least.. while you all load in a few seconds mine can take anything from 15 seconds - 2 minutes lol depending on server load. once loaded it plays pretty smoothly.
apart from the obvious in your face lag and rubberbanding.
visual settings are run mainly at medium with the odd low setting. like shadows and the ones that make huge impacts on performace.
It's amazing how people can get use to crappy game play with crappy hardware. I like smooth and beautiful game play. With setting on high so I can enjoy the game the way it is meant to be.
You know what amazes me? How some people can be so elitist and condescending. I applaud the amount of work you do here trying to help people with their issues (this is NOT sarcasm. I have read all the things you have done), but you continually talk down to people who may not have the best understanding of hardware etc. You are always quick to tell people their hardware sucks and just buy new stuff (this is exaggeration, but that is the impression you give off quite often), when the game can be played fine with lower end machines. Not everyone requires eye candy to enjoy a game, particularly an MMO. They may just like the game itself, and playing with lots of people.
The game does run just fine on machines that are far, far below the listed minimum specs. A Dell Inspiron E1505 with a CoreDuo 1.73GHz processor, 2GB RAM and an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 can run the game with everything at medium except shadows and physics objects. Is it slow loading? Yes. Do the graphics leave something to be desired? Yes. Is the game still playable and enjoyable? Well, for you, apparently not, but for others, yes it is.
That Inspiron laptop I talked about? Yeah, that is what I used most of the time through Beta, and still occasionally use. Yes, it is a huge difference between that, and my Core2Quad with 6GB RAM and a 1 GB Geforce 9800GT. I think you do a disservice to people looking for help when you dismiss their issues as being hardware problems that there is no reason to try to make work. Let them know how much nicer things are with higher end hardware. To be sure, that is the best way to enjoy this game. Just don't throw them links to upgrade or buy new computers, just because you personally do not think the game is playable on their hardware.
Have you even play the episode the "Trap" yet. My system had a problems playing it. Read Star Trek Online: Game Performance Analyzed And Benchmarked . Since I read this 2 days ago I been tell people with older system to set Half Resolution to ON.
You have not read everything I wrote in these forums or you would have read how I got Netbook ION to run STO. Right now I am helping a laptop with a ATI Radeon 300 to run STO. But on these systems FPS is going to be between 6-24 with a lot of lag. That is not enjoyably. That's just playing the game. This is not WoW. The requirements are much higher.
Yes, I believe people should get rid of their old systems. Today demanding 3D gaming anything system not running a dual-core is outed. But at the same time I have been helping them to try to STO on these same systems. What have you been doing?
I don't think you bothered to actually READ what I wrote. It isn't that you aren't trying to help people, it is your attitude. When you DO try to help people on low end systems, you come across as more than a little demeaning. You seem to have this great need to show everyone just how superior you are in your knowledge and your hardware. Who are you to tell other people what is enjoyable? You see? That is my point. You assume that what is best for you, is best for everyone.
Would it be great if everyone had the money to upgrade their machines? Sure. That is not realistic for everyone. Does that mean they should be relegated to 10 year old games?
I'm not new to MMOs or to IT. When a support person treats customers the way you do, it doesn't matter how much they know. You aren't official support for this game, so feel free to treat others any way you like. It would just be nice if people didn't have to be made to feel like ignorant peons for not having top of the line systems.
And you are right we are not Official Support. Since these systems are below specs Cryptic will not help them. But we are.
He's never been anything but helpful to those that need it that I've seen, and you may want to at least get some more posts under your belt before you TRIBBLE with someone who's going out of his way to be helpful, and because of that, has a lot of friends on these boards.
White Knight has been helping people for a long time in this thread. He does it without reaping any rewards. There are no post counts, reputation system, or anything selfish that he could get from helping others here. I know White Knight. I've known him from this thread and from my fleet. He's a humble and honest guy. Whatever you choose to extrapolate from his posts is your business, but when you accuse him of anything less than being helpful in this thread, that's my business too. We've both helped many to spec upgrades and determine what will and won't run STO well.
I don't think you get it when it comes to gaming. Do you think that just because you might get 20-30 FPS in some areas that you'll get that throughout the entire games? Different areas, different scenes, and different events are all going to have different GPU and CPU processing requirements. What might look fine in sector space might be a pita to tweak and play in more graphically-demanding areas.
There's a reason why Cryptic states high minimum requirements: they don't want people coming back to them to complain about poor performance somewhere in-game.
Gaming is a luxury. No one needs to game, and no one said it was cheap. If you want cheap with gaming that doesn't require current hardware, then you have plenty of flash games out there. If you want the latest, greatest MMO, then you better expect to purchase some new hardware if your PC is older. If you're on a budget, that's fine. That's what this thread is for, to help people who want to spend less and still enjoy STO. But there's a difference between a realistic budget and just trying to skimp to the point of not getting anything done.
:rolleyes: If all you want to do is attack the people trying to help you, then no one will want to help you. Feel free to go to a Linux or similar support community and your expectations will be put into perspective. If you're offended that your PC isn't up to snuff and take offense when someone is blunt with you, then you'll drown over at those forums. At least here people genuinely try to help and are honest with you.
Yes I have one.
Thanks You. I only try to be truthful and honest.
What kind of FPS do you get on what settings with your GTS 250?
And if you've played WOW before let me know how that runs also.
I havent been able to pick up a new PSU yet, I've been working 15 hour days. But I figure I'd stop at compusa and pick one up, they have some decent prices.
That green area inside the wormhole is the only time my system has really bogged down. I have an old 8800 Ultra that handles everything else easily.
Yes, and a 8800 is at recommend specs. It's a great card. I adjusted my settings so it and the Raptor will run much smoother.