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mirror warship and earth spacedock

snakevorerulessnakevorerules Member Posts: 57 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
i am hoping they will come out with a refit version of the mirror warship. i love that ship i use it on my Klingon. seems earth space dock is getting yet another upgrade when is the Klingon empires space dock gonna get a replacement to a nicer version or upgrade.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,674 Community Moderator
    Well... when they did the Year of Klingon stuff Qo'noS Shipyard was tweaked with a bunch of new stuff. But I do agree it needs some love still. I love the overhead light models and I love the tweaks to the Transporter area. But we've been looking at the same 3-4 ships out the window for years.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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  • snakevorerulessnakevorerules Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    they need to make it bigger for the klingons
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,674 Community Moderator
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.

    If you ask me they should rewamp First City anyway as that map looks kind of small, like what you can walk in is the whole city.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
    phoenixc#0738
         Member Posts: 5,887 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.

    If you ask me they should rewamp First City anyway as that map looks kind of small, like what you can walk in is the whole city.

    It is supposed to be only a few blocks around the capital building. It kind of makes sense for the Klingons to have the capital building in a gated part of the capital city since promotion by assassination is still a valid path for ambitious warriors and politicians in Klingon society.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.

    If you ask me they should rewamp First City anyway as that map looks kind of small, like what you can walk in is the whole city.

    It is supposed to be only a few blocks around the capital building. It kind of makes sense for the Klingons to have the capital building in a gated part of the capital city since promotion by assassination is still a valid path for ambitious warriors and politicians in Klingon society.

    I know what it's suppose to be, what I'm saying is that it doesn't feel like gated part of larger settlement, it feels it is everything there is. Besides we've seen the great hall before in trek and and it's never been as boxed in as it's in STO.

    What I'd suggest would to have their be few places where you can see the expanse of the city, to give a better feeling of scale.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
    phoenixc#0738
         Member Posts: 5,887 Arc User
    edited December 26
    spiritborn wrote: »
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.

    If you ask me they should rewamp First City anyway as that map looks kind of small, like what you can walk in is the whole city.

    It is supposed to be only a few blocks around the capital building. It kind of makes sense for the Klingons to have the capital building in a gated part of the capital city since promotion by assassination is still a valid path for ambitious warriors and politicians in Klingon society.

    I know what it's suppose to be, what I'm saying is that it doesn't feel like gated part of larger settlement, it feels it is everything there is. Besides we've seen the great hall before in trek and and it's never been as boxed in as it's in STO.

    What I'd suggest would to have their be few places where you can see the expanse of the city, to give a better feeling of scale.

    True, they could use "wall art" the same way they do on New Romulus to show things like the jungle in the distance from the balcony and the Reman subterranean entrance area in the distance, though unless they rework some of the buildings the only thing they could show would be towers poking up in the distance over some of the buildings on the actual map.

    Of course, when they first made the city map they may have intended the capitol city to be in the Burn area (which from the visuals from the movie was probably about a third to half of the planet), from the looks of the Academy a lot of that is probably still desert slowly recovering from the Praxis disaster. Of course, if the devs made it look like a realistic recovery operation that could be interesting looking in itself.
    Post edited by phoenixc#0738 on
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,397 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Well... it technically is bigger. Its part of the First City map. Still a bit of a relic when it comes to transitioning between First City and the Shipyard like how OLD ESD used to be before the current map was implimented.

    If you ask me they should rewamp First City anyway as that map looks kind of small, like what you can walk in is the whole city.

    It is supposed to be only a few blocks around the capital building. It kind of makes sense for the Klingons to have the capital building in a gated part of the capital city since promotion by assassination is still a valid path for ambitious warriors and politicians in Klingon society.

    I know what it's suppose to be, what I'm saying is that it doesn't feel like gated part of larger settlement, it feels it is everything there is. Besides we've seen the great hall before in trek and and it's never been as boxed in as it's in STO.

    What I'd suggest would to have their be few places where you can see the expanse of the city, to give a better feeling of scale.

    True, they could use "wall art" the same way they do on New Romulus to show things like the jungle in the distance from the balcony and the Reman subterranean entrance area in the distance, though unless they rework some of the buildings the only thing they could show would be towers poking up in the distance over some of the buildings on the actual map.

    Of course, when they first made the city map they may have intended the capitol city to be in the Burn area (which from the visuals from the movie was probably about a third to half of the planet), from the looks of the Academy a lot of that is probably still desert slowly recovering from the Praxis disaster. Of course, if the devs made it look like a realistic recovery operation that could be interesting looking in itself.

    The funny thing about that Reman district is that it's an actual 3D object and quite detailed from something you can barely see (it was available in the Foundry to place in maps).

    But that's why I suggested they'd separate some sections so you need to cross a bridge or something similar to get to them so you could show views of the city but still have "these are fortified bastions" feel for the governmental areas.
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