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How big is it supposed to be? Bigger or smaller than the Odessey?
And what's her crew compliment?
And what's her crew compliment?
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No idea. I would speculate between 800-1200 just at a glance.
The crew compliment is, "My, you look nice today. That shade suits you."
From a guess, just short of a Venator class (1300 metres long)
If I was to compare the Oddy to the Queen Elizabeth class Superdreadnoughts, then the Typhoon would be like the Renown class Battlecruiser.
Crew taking automation into account, I'd say 800-1,000 officers and enlisted including Marine detachments.
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Typhoon class is 821 meters long. Information comes from one of STO's concept artists who mentioned it several months ago when the ship was being discussed on Twitter.
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The Star Cruiser and by extension the Oddyssey were the largest ships in Starfleet and those were at 1000. Since the new Typhoon is roughly in the same ballpark I'd say we can assume 1000 as well.
The technical manuals gave a "evacuation limit" for the starships meaning if every available room was used to put people in while evacuating a starbase or a planet, the Galaxy class, long time largest vessel in-canon, could fit 4000 people (with a regular serving crew of 800 if I remember correctly). The Typhoon would probably have a lower evacuation limit compared to the Oddysseys and Star Cruisers.
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Those empty decks are pressed into service during wartime, along with switching the huge peacetime suites (families and civilian scientists and support people are offloaded at a Starbase or whatever) into barracks rooms, which allows a single Galaxy to carry an entire brigade or short division (approximately 6,000 troops max and their equipment, like personal gear and vehicles like Hoppers and maybe some small ground vehicles and groundside HQ stuff). That is why there were so many of them at the First Battle of Chin'toka in Tears of the Prophets, the wartime role of a Galaxy class is more-or-less the same as a real-world Marine assault ship like the Wasp-class.
That six thousand surplus capacity is confirmed by the evacuation numbers, in peacetime mode the crew itself is about 800 and they carry about 1,200 in extra scientists, shop keepers, other civilian services, etc., and dependents. In addition to that average of about 2,000 they were said to have the additional life support capacity to evacuate 4,000 colonists on short notice. If they had time to drop off the civilians and switch to wartime mode, they could have (in theory anyway) picked up 6,000 colonists per trip.
The Typhoon probably does not have the huge peacetime/wartime role difference, and it lacks the extensive shuttle and hopper flightdeck operations, so it probably could get by with more automation and less live crew. In fact, if you take what Roddenberry said about considering the TOS Enterprise a battleship (things he said made indirect reference to both the US Iowa class and the British Queen Elisabeth class, specifically HMW Warspite since he often Starfleet's Enterprise by a slight variant of the real-world Warspite's nickname) the TOS crew compliment turns out to be about a quarter of the realworld ships' compliments.
Using the German pocket battleship Scharnhorst (which was a "pocket battleship" somewhat equivalent to what the Typhoon is supposed to be to Starfleet from the introduction blurb for it) as a convenient example, it may have a crew as small as about 420, though somewhere in the 400 to 600 range is probable.
Automation and such is speculation, especially since the crew numbers in Star Trek are a bit arbitrary (for instance, there are sources stating that a *sovereign*-class can take up to 9000 (!) people and that one is definitely smaller than a Galaxy in terms of internal space) but always seem to have pretty round numbers. So when a Oddy is at 1600 I'd speculate a Typhoon would be between a Galaxy and Oddyssey. About 1000 seems reasonable. as that was the number given for the original Star Cruiser design and the new Typhoon should be around that size?
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Well Star Trek ships are already pretty light when it comes to crew numbers, for example the WWII era Essex class aircraft carrier had a crew of little over 2600 people on ship of 270 meters in length. where has the GCS is around 650 meters or so and has typical complement of 1000 including families (it's also wider and taller but how much extra volume that creates is harder to say since unlike WWII aircraft carrier the Galaxy-class in not essentially a box.). Also as an aircraft carrier the Essex's had a lot of essentially empty space in form of the hangars for the planes.
EDIT:What I'm saying is that there should be space there for a lot more then typical Star Trek ships house in terms of their crew and permanent passengers.