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Romulan/dominion need their own mw flight deck carrier
whistlerdavid
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the mw flight deck carriers are my favorite ships i only buy other ships for traits at this point. now i am doing carrier builds revolving around fleet support. i call them armada builds. however if you play a Romulan or a dominion you have 2 choices and both feel very out of place when you start getting a bunch of fleet support ships out. sure the Romulans have that little fdc in shop but its nothing like the mw d7 or the star fleet variant
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It would be nice, but getting anything for Romulans makes pulling teeth while herding cats seem easy. Odo's faction has it bad too, but Romulans still get the shortest end of the stick by far when it comes to new singularity core ships. In fact, I don't think they have released a true Romulan (singularity cored) ship since the Ra'nodair in 2020.
And even then, the Ra'nodair's popularity is damaged by the fact that it is a goofus bird (that platypus tail was obviously meant to be the head) and it is impossible to see it as doing anything but flying backwards (I suppose the devs blame the probably low sales on the singularity core, even though it is the silly idea of having it fly backwards that did that).
Maybe have the MW Flight Deck as one of the Dominion Battlecruisers from DS9
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
While I would agree... we have one minor problem. We have the battlecruiser already in game... as a lockbox ship.
https://stowiki.net/wiki/Jem'Hadar_Light_Battlecruiser
That in itself just opens up a whole new can of worms if they were to make a C-Store version.
HOWEVER there is something that COULD be a viable option as the door was opened a while ago without opening any cans of worms.
A ship from another game.
As long as Cryptic makes the model themselves, the door is open.
I do know that in the game Dominion Wars, they had as a Tier 5 ship a Dominion Carrier.
That and the Hutet could find their way into STO if the Devs want to take a shot at it.
https://gaming.trekcore.com/dominionwars/ships.html
I cannot quite make my mind up about the JH 'Super Carrier' -
but the Cardassian 'Hutet' looks ok from the one image available, although it does describe it as the largest ship in the Alpha Quadrant when it launched so I am guessing something along the lines of a dreadnought in STO -
On a side note, I do quite like the Federation Achilles
It is silly. It is a holdover from "flight deck cruiser" which does make at least some sense, but they felt they had to include the word "carrier" in the name. They would have been better off leaving the name alone or calling it something else like "Hybrid Carrier" or "Cruiser-Carrier" or whatever if they really absolutely had to have the word in there.
While it is true the Romulans have always had a different naming convention, they could have called a hybrid of cruiser and carrier a "Warbird FDC" easily enough and it might have been less confusing for new players, but that wasn't really the point.
The point was more about Fed and KDF ships that used to be called "flight deck cruisers" getting renamed to "flight deck carriers" sounding silly and redundant, not to mention more confusing to people who were not here before the change and so don't know that full carriers are what they sound like but "flight deck carriers" are actually cruisers that happen to have fighter hangers slapped on in addition to their cruiser armament.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Yeah Dominion doesn't seem to have members the same way UFP has but rather it's more Vassals who give tribute to the Founders in exchange for protection.
yup. if anything it should be Flight Deck Cruiser, both the Japanese and the Soviets referred to their carriers as aviation cruisers
I guess when they gave FDCs a second hanger they reclassified them as Carriers. I suppose they figured anything with two hanger slots should be classified as a Carrier, and since Escort Carriers only had one hanger slot...
A Stormbird carrier?
There is a fanon one that was done by one of the writers who Roddenberry got together to do the first season of TNG, the ChR Cuirass from Diane Duane's novel My Enemy, My Ally which carried a single person scout/courier ship (for a short time the scoutship was the Hsaaja) in a shelter of some sort attached to the engineering section. It was a good idea, and the Hsaaja probably inspired the slightly larger than a runabout Romulan scoutship in TNG.
Since the Stormbirds were just Klingon D6s and/or D7s with the Klingon weapons pulled off and replaced with Romulan weapons and cloak and maybe some other minor changes it is probable that they used the original Klingon warp cores instead of trying to refit singularity cores into them.
An FDC came forth from the utilitarian federation cruiser with a functional flight deck and the mastery reflected that.
Both the Romulan Star Empire and Dominion had a focus on warships with potentially a flight deck and the mastery packages on their ships with flight decks reflected that.
Should ships completely outside the doctrine of a faction be added just because those ships have not been added to that faction?
In my opinion that is merely a waste of time and resources.
Far far too late for that....they stole every special thing other factions had and given to others. Literally all Romulans have is the TRIBBLE singularity core system and I'd glad see it stuffed for +40 extra power
It's absolutely worthless and now battle cloak is everywhere and literally any ship that has dual cannons can wield battle cloak
So who cares if it's taken from someone else, no point at all other than selfishness....either wanting to feel special or just don't want Romulans and Dominion to have more ships
That aside, there actually is precedent for the Romulans to have an FDC in the analogies that the original series was based on, just like the Klingons having them fits theirs. The Klingons were analogous to the USSR during the cold war for instance, and by the 1970s and up until the Soviet Union broke up, their surface forces tended to have cruisers with flight decks slapped on top like their Kiev class and Kuznetsov class hybrid missile cruiser/carriers.
The Romulans are a bit more complicated, they started off as an analog for the Third Reich, then picked up some ancient Roman influence because D.C. Fontana suggested doing so would help sell the Balance of Terror script to Roddenberry since he had a thing for the ancient Romans, and the idea kind of expanded to the Axis in general (or at least added the WWII Japanese anyway, which is where the suicide-before-capture thing came in, among other things).
The point is that the Japanese in WWII actually had some operational hybrid cruiser/carriers and, more importantly (considering the Romulan cloaking tech), the I-400-class submarine/carrier hybrids in service. As it turns out, the I-400s were not incredibly effective, the planes made decent scouts, and they firebombed the rainforests in Washington state and northern California to try and disrupt the supply of spruce and redwood and distract US firefighters from the cities for firebombing raids that were planned but never happened, but the weather was not cooperative and the fires fizzled out without much damage (hence no city raids), and a few other desperate stunts of questionable value late in the war. Their cruiser-carriers were moderately effective though really niche (the two roles do not really overlap enough normally) and featured some of the first "ski-jump" style flight decks.