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UPGRADE YOUR SHIP EVEN FURTHER!

baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,864 Community Moderator
edited October 2023 in Galactic News Network [PC]
The Experimental Ship Upgrade path has opened even further. Now you can apply more tokens to your ships, and get even more device, console, and trait slots!

https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11553083
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  • mikeward1701mikeward1701 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    Glad they're using existing token and not a new one.

    Would have preferred it being only one token to go through each level. This proposed system could get expensive when we're talking T6-X3+ etc.
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn
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    edited September 2023
    It is good to see that the "new" upgrades will use the existing tokens.

    It is bad to see that Cryptic uses Beer Math to come up with the token costs per upgrade.

    Upgrading a T6 ship to T6-X requires 1 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
    Upgrading a T6 ship to T6-X2 requires 2 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
    Upgrading a T6-X ship to T6-X2 requires 1 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token

    Fixed it for ya!
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  • fred26291#2759 fred26291
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    x2 only provied 1 extra slot of each type and requires 2 tokens?
    HARD PASS! Costs enough for the single tokens as it is, not gonna waste my time trying to get 2 for what only 1 gives me.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    So that's why we keep having small events rewarding free ESUTs.

    At least, it's not yet another different thing to buy to improve your stuff.
    #TASforSTO
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  • supergaminggeeksupergaminggeek Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    Hmm yes we're getting the exact same benefits from T6 to T6-X, but it's twice as expensive. Why?
  • blkpythonblkpython Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    (Flaming, trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
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  • highlandrisehighlandrise Member Posts: 354 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    naah guys, Turbo Pass for me, another 2 Tokens just to get one more of the things that the first Upgrade for ONE Token gave??? Seriously, Tell me that you are a Ferengi without telling me that you are a Ferengi!
  • fred26291#2759 fred26291
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    edited September 2023
    (Response to moderated comments removed. - BMR)

    :(
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    I guess if they put a new token in the store and charged 2x as much for it people would balk.

    We'll just use the old tokens most people have a few extra of and they will look out for themselves and stifle it.

    Whatever I'm glad their isn't a new token... I also assume like Tx6 this is an account unlock. It doesn't specifically say it is.
  • totenmettotenmet Member Posts: 592 Arc User
    I see no option to upgrade my ship. So how should i do this?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,552 Community Moderator
    husanakx wrote: »
    Whatever I'm glad their isn't a new token... I also assume like Tx6 this is an account unlock. It doesn't specifically say it is.

    If its using the same system, then yes it will be account wide.
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    husanakx wrote: »
    Whatever I'm glad their isn't a new token... I also assume like Tx6 this is an account unlock. It doesn't specifically say it is.

    If its using the same system, then yes it will be account wide.

    I assume so as well... but it makes me wonder when they don't mention a fairly important selling point. :)
  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    totenmet wrote: »
    I see no option to upgrade my ship. So how should i do this?

    Its coming with the Incursion update on Sept 12. It's not in game yet.
  • idagrenocz#3009 idagrenocz
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    > @husanakx said:
    > Its coming with the Incursion update on Sept 12. It's not in game yet.

    to be fair they did use the language "now" in the post so I thought the same thing and stared at the Manage Ships person very angrily lmao
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,382 Arc User
    ikonn#1068 wrote: »
    Upgrading a T6 ship to T6-X requires 1 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
    Upgrading a T6 ship to T6-X2 requires 2 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
    Upgrading a T6-X ship to T6-X2 requires 1 Experimental Ship Upgrade Token

    Fixed it for ya!
    Much as I'd like your version, the original post makes sense:
    • Starting at T6, you need just one token to get to T6-X as we've already been doing;
    • To take that T6-X to T6-X2, requires 2 tokens;
      (It makes perfect sense to me that we pay a higher price to get the extra stuff, so I don't see why folks are complaining over this.
      After all, it's just exactly the same in most other MMO's!)
    • If we're starting with a base T6 ship, we're gonna need three tokens in total to reach T6-X2 status.

    I can't help wondering though, given all the attempts to allow T5 ships to remain competitive, firstly with T5-U and then T5-X, do they get the chance to go to T5-X2 as well? If not, it's quite disappointing...
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  • arrmateysarrmateys Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    it's probably both greed, wanting to take 2x more money for a minor upgrade, and also a way to prevent steamrolling this through using temporal/gamma alts who get a free character bound ship upgrade at rep t6.
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  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    ikonn#1068 wrote: »
    It is good to see that the "new" upgrades will use the existing tokens.

    It is bad to see that Cryptic uses Beer Math to come up with the token costs per upgrade.

    Agreed. This new upgrade is too expensive.

    BTW: When does this go live? Because I can't apply an upgrades to my T6-X ships, but everything is worded as if this is already available in the game.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    First paragraph:
    and when Star Trek Online: Incursion launches, you’ll be able to take advantage.
    So on the 12th of this month.
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  • thejigsaw#6577 thejigsaw
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    I really don't see why it wouldn't cost one extra token instead of two. I hope the team re-evaluates the price considering its the same unlocks - now if it had something like two universal slots or two traits that'd be worth extra money.
  • gt500dotorggt500dotorg Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    saurializard wrote: »
    So on the 12th of this month.

    Thanks. I read that the first time, then forgot and didn't see it again when I skimmed through it.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,460 Arc User
    arrmateys wrote: »
    it's probably both greed, wanting to take 2x more money for a minor upgrade, and also a way to prevent steamrolling this through using temporal/gamma alts who get a free character bound ship upgrade at rep t6.

    Yeah...it's totally greedy of them to throw so many free upgrade tokens at us on a regular basis as well eh!? They probably make literally next to nothing with C-Store token sales because they have been so generous. SMH
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  • finsches123finsches123 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    I really don't think limiting players to an even smaller selection of ships they can realistically have at the highest power level is a good idea.
  • captainkoltarcaptainkoltar Member Posts: 938 Arc User
    > @finsches123 said:
    > I really don't think limiting players to an even smaller selection of ships they can realistically have at the highest power level is a good idea.

    It's possible that this might discourage people from buying new ships because of the expense of upgrading to max (1 fleet ship module and 2 upgrade tokens).

    However I doubt it'll have a massive effect, as most players probably only buy a small handful of ships max, and there are plenty enough upgrade tokens to cover that.

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  • arrmateysarrmateys Member Posts: 466 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    leemwatson wrote: »
    Yeah...it's totally greedy of them to throw so many free upgrade tokens at us on a regular basis as well eh!? They probably make literally next to nothing with C-Store token sales because they have been so generous. SMH
    a mega corporation like gearbox being 'generous', suure. those freebies are like a drip feed, to keep people interested and put more serious money into the zen or dilithium, which they won't do if things are too cheap. if they made "literally" next to nothing, the game would be shut down a long time ago. video games, esp. mmos are still a business, not a charity.
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  • ulmanchunulmanchun Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    I wrote something about this one some other posts i don't remember but how about some love for the shuttles/small craft with that token.The x token should have more uses like apply to the shuttles to upgrade them a bit. also reskin some TFOs for small crafts. I still remember the days where you can fly the delta flyer which i was flying at the time in a Borg TFO. Those where the days before they fixed that glitch but man it was difficult but when hold on and don't mess around you can win that tfo even with shuttles.... took time but it happened on occasion.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    This feels like a new player/customer trap that may potentially backfire.

    Say a new player comes into the game and they really like X ship. So, they buy it from the C-Store for 3000 zen. Then, they find out there is a fleet version - so they're up to 3500 zen. Then, they find out they have to upgrade it twice more with 3 X tokens - meaning they find out they have to pay 5500 zen for that ship. Telling a new player they have to pay $55USD to fly an un-gimped version of the ship they enjoy is probably going to be a pretty hard sell. They're being nickle-and-dimed for almost the entire cost of the T6 ship by itself. (It gets even worse if that player wants a promo ship.. and learns they have to shell out even more to fully upgrade it once they do actually manage to obtain "one".)

    Obviously, it's less of an issue for established players, and I suspect the exponential upgrade cost is aimed at this demograph who are sitting on piles of upgrade tokens at this point. However, it is still a pretty alarming price hike if you're looking at it from the lens of the C-Store/zen cost. If the exponential upgrade cost continues, it's going to get very ugly, very quickly.
  • dnaangel9dnaangel9 Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    Holy Power Creep Batman. They're really dialing up the BS to 11 now lol
  • dnaangel9dnaangel9 Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    thejigsaw#6577 wrote: »
    I really don't see why it wouldn't cost one extra token instead of two. I hope the team re-evaluates the price considering its the same unlocks - now if it had something like two universal slots or two traits that'd be worth extra money.

    I mean 2 tokens for yet another trait slot is worth it, alone. Let alone another console slot. You know how insanely broken ships have already become with the the amount of ship trait/console slots we have now? Yet another ship trait and console is bonkers.
  • inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,382 Arc User
    edited September 2023
    thejigsaw#6577 wrote: »
    I really don't see why it wouldn't cost one extra token instead of two. I hope the team re-evaluates the price considering its the same unlocks - now if it had something like two universal slots or two traits that'd be worth extra money.
    But it's not the same unlocks - you're unlocking a second extra device slot, a second extra trait slot and a second universal console slot rather than the first extra device slot, a first extra trait slot and a first universal console slot.
    It's the same in almost all other MMO's out there that further unlocks tend to cost more.

    What we should be worrying about is the pattern that's started here. Will it be:
    • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc.
      or
    • 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, etc.
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  • psychickittypsychickitty Member Posts: 167 Arc User
    truthfully this is interesting...though i was hoping that we could eventually just upgrade our old ships...the T-5s and below to T-6 types...and then eventualy just have a base ship module layout if we got to that point......5 forward and 5 rear weapons...consoles at 15 of them and devices at either 5 or 6 max.....ie. we could upgrade that ship that didnt have all that to that sort of layout....like some of the birds of prey and klingon ships and my old star ships that where not even T-5. I mean its greta we can constantly buy a brand new ship.....but my old ships.....i sort of miss them.

    Also when does this roll out, i cant seam to upgrade past the T-6X i have a number of T-6X but there are some i want to go further with.

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