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Sci ships have secondary deflector, escorts have experimental weapon, why cruiser have no love?

vesh20vesh20 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
edited March 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Sci ships have secondary deflector, escorts have experimental weapon, why cruiser have no love? They deserve secondary hull slot, similar like secondary deflector with some unique ability like secondary deflector. It will be fair.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,119 Community Moderator
    Cruisers actually have Cruiser Commands rather than an equipable item.
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    vesh20vesh20 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Cruisers actually have Cruiser Commands rather than an equipable item.
    And sci ships have subsystems target, so cruisers definitely need some love

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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,366 Arc User
    vesh20 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Cruisers actually have Cruiser Commands rather than an equipable item.
    And sci ships have subsystems target, so cruisers definitely need some love

    Cruisers affect all within a 5km radius, subsystem targetting only affect the target you're firing at....so no, Cruisers are fine, especially as they have more weapons!
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    Yeah cruisers always had that first weapon.

    In fact, IIRC, this is exactly why Sci ships got their secondary deflector in the first place. If I'm not mistaken, the argument went 'cruisers have their extra weapon slot, escorts can carry cannons' etc.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    Besides, cruisers have one more very important benefit: their beauty.

    There's just something about the way an Oddy or Sovereign move that already makes them worth flying. Who cares about secondary deflectors or experimental weapon slots when your every movement tells the ships that have those things this:

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    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,381 Arc User
    Technically cruiser commands give allies within a 5Km radius a boost, but during a TFO few allies stay within 5 Km of any cruiser and the commands are rendered pretty forgettable.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    The two more weapons slots that cruisers get over sci ships goes a long way to balance the two. The exception is the science spearheads with their seven weapon slots, and there are only something like two or three in the game and they are all premium box ships.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,538 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    The two more weapons slots that cruisers get over sci ships goes a long way to balance the two. The exception is the science spearheads with their seven weapon slots, and there are only something like two or three in the game and they are all premium box ships.

    This. +2 beams over most science ships means 25% more pew pew pew.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,290 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    The two more weapons slots that cruisers get over sci ships goes a long way to balance the two. The exception is the science spearheads with their seven weapon slots, and there are only something like two or three in the game and they are all premium box ships.

    Don't they also loose the use of their secondary deflector in order to use that 7th weapon slot.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc
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    spiritborn wrote: »
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    The two more weapons slots that cruisers get over sci ships goes a long way to balance the two. The exception is the science spearheads with their seven weapon slots, and there are only something like two or three in the game and they are all premium box ships.

    Don't they also loose the use of their secondary deflector in order to use that 7th weapon slot.

    No, spearheads have seven weapon slots and a secondary deflector all the time, it is multimode science destroyers like the Luna that have the either/or setup.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,290 Arc User
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    phoenixc#0738 wrote: »
    The two more weapons slots that cruisers get over sci ships goes a long way to balance the two. The exception is the science spearheads with their seven weapon slots, and there are only something like two or three in the game and they are all premium box ships.

    Don't they also loose the use of their secondary deflector in order to use that 7th weapon slot.

    No, spearheads have seven weapon slots and a secondary deflector all the time, it is multimode science destroyers like the Luna that have the either/or setup.

    There's too many variants to keep track of, I remembered one style of science ship was a scienceship/escort combo, I just couldn't remember what it was.
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