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Cryptic is disallowing the use of the Cat charm in Q's WW in tomorrow's patch

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  • realdarklordrealdarklord Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    Deleted, wrong thread
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,577 Community Moderator
    Just a heads up guys, Kael has posted a new thread addressing things here:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1269029/on-cats-in-the-cold

    Looks like Cryptic will be looking into the various speed boosts and Q's Winter Wonderland, but the results will most likely not be seen until next year's Winter Event.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,694 Arc User
    kida sucks. it was fun watching kitties get buried under the snowball missile strike
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,577 Community Moderator
    kida sucks. it was fun watching kitties get buried under the snowball missile strike

    The charm wasn't disabled. Just the speed boost it gives has been.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    avoozuul wrote: »
    They could even just disqualify anyone using it during the race.

    I asked, this would've required building all new software. As it was, they were apparently getting numerous complaints about players using it to "cheat" during the races that it had to be addressed. Sorry, guys. 🤷‍♀️

    Why not just remove/reduce the speed buff and keep the visual?
    As others have said, seems to be a nuclear option.

    Edit*

    Just noticed Ratler said the charm is still available, just the speed boost removed. Seems a reasonable compromise.

    The thread tittle is a little misleading and indicates the charm is being 'disallowed' in WW.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    equinox976 wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    They could even just disqualify anyone using it during the race.

    I asked, this would've required building all new software. As it was, they were apparently getting numerous complaints about players using it to "cheat" during the races that it had to be addressed. Sorry, guys. 🤷‍♀️

    Why not just remove/reduce the speed buff and keep the visual?
    As others have said, seems to be a nuclear option.

    Edit*

    Just noticed Ratler said the charm is still available, just the speed boost removed. Seems a reasonable compromise.

    The thread tittle is a little misleading and indicates the charm is being 'disallowed' in WW.

    At the time the OP made this thread, the Patch Notes did say that it was being disabled in QWW. However, the devs decided to reduce the speed boost instead.
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    So, let me see if I fully understand what is going on here. A limited access item which provides a minimal boost to movement is causing problems while playing a limited time PvP Event which rewards purely cosmetic items which are then turned into a limited time Event Vendor to acquire a cosmetic pet.

    I have two chars which do not have Winter Eppohs. On each of them, I ran the race simply to finish. Which awards 2 Winter Eppoh tags. So run simply to finish three times and Bob's yer uncle. What's that? You didn't get the Winter Eppoh you wanted the very first time you turned in the Winter Eppoh Tags? How Dreadfully Unfair of Cryptic's Devs to something this dastardly!

    Run The Fast and the Flurrious simply to finish three more times and turn in the six tags you get.

    And while you're in here complaining about the, "unfair advantage", the Cat Charm allows, people all around the world are doing without electricity or running water. Or enough food to feed their children.

    First World problems. :'(
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    So, let me see if I fully understand what is going on here. A limited access item which provides a minimal boost to movement is causing problems while playing a limited time PvP Event which rewards purely cosmetic items which are then turned into a limited time Event Vendor to acquire a cosmetic pet.

    I have two chars which do not have Winter Eppohs. On each of them, I ran the race simply to finish. Which awards 2 Winter Eppoh tags. So run simply to finish three times and Bob's yer uncle. What's that? You didn't get the Winter Eppoh you wanted the very first time you turned in the Winter Eppoh Tags? How Dreadfully Unfair of Cryptic's Devs to something this dastardly!

    Run The Fast and the Flurrious simply to finish three more times and turn in the six tags you get.

    And while you're in here complaining about the, "unfair advantage", the Cat Charm allows, people all around the world are doing without electricity or running water. Or enough food to feed their children.

    First World problems. :'(

    Time to break this bad boy back out. 😉
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,577 Community Moderator
    Been a long time since we saw one of those.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Been a long time since we saw one of those.

    I know, right? 😄
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,468 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Been a long time since we saw one of those.

    I know, right? 😄

    Just made my Christmas!! :lol: Keep em coming!!
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  • baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 819 Arc User
    So, let me see if I fully understand what is going on here. A limited access item which provides a minimal boost to movement is causing problems while playing a limited time PvP Event which rewards purely cosmetic items which are then turned into a limited time Event Vendor to acquire a cosmetic pet.

    I have two chars which do not have Winter Eppohs. On each of them, I ran the race simply to finish. Which awards 2 Winter Eppoh tags. So run simply to finish three times and Bob's yer uncle. What's that? You didn't get the Winter Eppoh you wanted the very first time you turned in the Winter Eppoh Tags? How Dreadfully Unfair of Cryptic's Devs to something this dastardly!

    Run The Fast and the Flurrious simply to finish three more times and turn in the six tags you get.

    And while you're in here complaining about the, "unfair advantage", the Cat Charm allows, people all around the world are doing without electricity or running water. Or enough food to feed their children.

    First World problems. :'(

    While I personally don't bother with the pvp race. The rewards don't have to stay purely cosmetic. The eppohs created can be traded in for Marks. Then used for a multitude of things.

    You are correct however, first world problem.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    The one thing I wish they would do with QWW is remove the intrusive autohail from the fekirhi, it's so dam‎ned annoying now.
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  • baucoinbaucoin Member Posts: 819 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    The one thing I wish they would do with QWW is remove the intrusive autohail from the fekirhi, it's so dam‎ned annoying now.

    I agree, especially if you are in the middle of doing fast & flurrious or fastest game on ice.
  • kirstieinkirstiein Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    The solution to this problem here is just put the charm in the store for the phoenix tokens, then everyone can get one and everyone can use it in WW. As far as other speed boosts go it is actually unfair to remove those as those were earned and as others have said everyone can get. It is the way a game works that older players have an advantage over new players.
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