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trcsimperfitrcsimperfi Member Posts: 5 Arc User
I was wondering if there is anything in the works for the Romulans, like there was for the Klingons recruits and the Federation Delta/ temporal recruits and if so any time line?
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,463 Arc User
    I was wondering if there is anything in the works for the Romulans, like there was for the Klingons recruits and the Federation Delta/ temporal recruits and if so any time line?

    The Romulans and their storyline (for which has the largest amount of unique epsiodes in the game, next to the KDF) received an over-haul right before the KDF did. Feds are still waiting for their removed content to be updated.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    I doubt if the Romulans will get their own recruitment without the other factions since they are part of the Delta recruitment and technically, according to lore they are the ones leading the Delta operations, using the gateway in their territory that you discover on one of the Romulan missions (Sphere of Influence).

    So there is plenty of justification to call Delta the Romulan recruitment, they just allow their allies in on it (which also makes sense considering how integrated they are with both the red and blue factions).

    That said, they still could use some more ships (with singularity cores, unlike the Temere) and some new missions would be nice.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    Still waiting for Romulan Nemesis uniforms as well as the SNW Romulan ones, Qowat Milet might be added eventually since their swords are being added to the new lock box or lobi store.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    Also feel like Tovan would be better received by the playerbase if there was an option to make him female,

    Tarsi, Elisa Flores and Evelyn Savea all seem more popular than their male counterparts.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    Also feel like Tovan would be better received by the playerbase if there was an option to make him female,

    Tarsi, Elisa Flores and Evelyn Savea all seem more popular than their male counterparts.

    I don't really mind Tovan, the voice acting fits the role rather well (though I don't like the alternate voice they patched a few of his lines with, it sounds too generic).

    They could not just change the character model and have a voice actress read the same lines, it would sound silly, for it to sound realistic they would have to do some substantial rewriting of the script and I don't think the devs would want to put that much effort into it considering the huge backlog of other missions (mainly Fed and KDF) to revamp and reintegrate.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    While I'm not necessarily much of a Romulan fan myself, the faction deserves its own recruitment event and other new, faction-specific content. They were, together with the UFP and Klingon Empire, always one of the three most important powers/civilisations in our corner of the galaxy.

    And with all the recent changes made and attention given to them (reunification in DIS, Zhat Vash and the whole robotic thing in PIC, and now SNW) I'm surprised that the only new Romulan-centric content we've seen so far was a single new lockbox.

    One would think that there are sufficient ways to build on the various developments happening on TV.

    And although - again - I'm not that big a fan of the Romulans, I'm almost certain anything revolving around the Romulans would be more interesting than all this evil-for-the-sake-of-being-evil Mirror Universe stuff.
    With plenty of things happening in the main universe, there's no need to deal with the same uninteresting mirror characters (or their totally unrealistic empire of back-stabbers or even their implausible universe itself) over and over again; only because they - while bragging they're invincible - keep running away only to return again and again... And again.
    It's getting really tiresome. They're the type of characters that should be left to comic books or, more generally, Marvel's releases. That's where they belong, a Star Trek game surely has more interesting cultures, characters and concepts to explore.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,659 Arc User
    While I'm not necessarily much of a Romulan fan myself, the faction deserves its own recruitment event and other new, faction-specific content. They were, together with the UFP and Klingon Empire, always one of the three most important powers/civilisations in our corner of the galaxy.

    I do have several Romulan characters and I'm content with the amount and quality of unique story episodes that they have. They have some of the best-written faction episodes and a lot of unique content.

    I do wish they'd fix those patched-in bits of voice acting though. The voice is very noticeably different and the audio levels are mismatched. To me even silence would be better than having those lines pull me out of the story.
  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    While I'm not necessarily much of a Romulan fan myself, the faction deserves its own recruitment event and other new, faction-specific content. They were, together with the UFP and Klingon Empire, always one of the three most important powers/civilisations in our corner of the galaxy.

    And with all the recent changes made and attention given to them (reunification in DIS, Zhat Vash and the whole robotic thing in PIC, and now SNW) I'm surprised that the only new Romulan-centric content we've seen so far was a single new lockbox.

    One would think that there are sufficient ways to build on the various developments happening on TV.

    And although - again - I'm not that big a fan of the Romulans, I'm almost certain anything revolving around the Romulans would be more interesting than all this evil-for-the-sake-of-being-evil Mirror Universe stuff.
    With plenty of things happening in the main universe, there's no need to deal with the same uninteresting mirror characters (or their totally unrealistic empire of back-stabbers or even their implausible universe itself) over and over again; only because they - while bragging they're invincible - keep running away only to return again and again... And again.
    It's getting really tiresome. They're the type of characters that should be left to comic books or, more generally, Marvel's releases. That's where they belong, a Star Trek game surely has more interesting cultures, characters and concepts to explore.

    The Romulans had their own backstabbing empire, it wasn't as blatant as the Terrans, it involved a bit more secrecy, when came to Romulans it wasn't a matter of if they're going to betray someone it was more of a matter of when.
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 1,342 Arc User
    lets just wrap the Terrans first, shall we? I'm kinda curious on that ending.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    While I'm not necessarily much of a Romulan fan myself, the faction deserves its own recruitment event and other new, faction-specific content. They were, together with the UFP and Klingon Empire, always one of the three most important powers/civilisations in our corner of the galaxy.

    And with all the recent changes made and attention given to them (reunification in DIS, Zhat Vash and the whole robotic thing in PIC, and now SNW) I'm surprised that the only new Romulan-centric content we've seen so far was a single new lockbox.

    One would think that there are sufficient ways to build on the various developments happening on TV.

    And although - again - I'm not that big a fan of the Romulans, I'm almost certain anything revolving around the Romulans would be more interesting than all this evil-for-the-sake-of-being-evil Mirror Universe stuff.
    With plenty of things happening in the main universe, there's no need to deal with the same uninteresting mirror characters (or their totally unrealistic empire of back-stabbers or even their implausible universe itself) over and over again; only because they - while bragging they're invincible - keep running away only to return again and again... And again.
    It's getting really tiresome. They're the type of characters that should be left to comic books or, more generally, Marvel's releases. That's where they belong, a Star Trek game surely has more interesting cultures, characters and concepts to explore.

    The Romulans had their own backstabbing empire, it wasn't as blatant as the Terrans, it involved a bit more secrecy, when came to Romulans it wasn't a matter of if they're going to betray someone it was more of a matter of when.

    It depends on what era you look at whether you could call the Romulans "backstabby".

    In TOS they were in flux, most were still honorable (like Mark Lenard's and Joanne Linville's characters) but dialog in Balance of Terror reveals that their government and society was succumbing to corruption and autocracy from honorless elements (in hindsight, probably extreme elements of the Tal Shiar and the secret societies like the Zhat Vash running a stealth-coup on their own government).

    The Romulans were in the same situation as Germany during WWII (which makes sense since the episode was the adaption of a WWII movie, with the Enterprise taking the place of a US destroyer chasing down a German U-boat that was represented by the Romulan ship in the episode) stretched out with the long Romulan lifespan, combined with elements of ancient Rome during their fall from a Republic to the Empire most people think of when ancient Rome is mentioned.

    By the time of TNG that process was complete and the Romulan people lived under the thumb of a full-blown fascist oligarchy, so of course everything done by government agencies (like the imperial fleet) was underhanded and backstabby. Even then though, there were still honorable people to be found as seen in several episodes of TNG, once episode in VOY were the Voyager crew beamed a Romulan commander though a wormhole and he agreed to send messages to people in the Federation for them, and others shown from time to time.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,564 Community Moderator
    By the time of TNG that process was complete and the Romulan people lived under the thumb of a full-blown fascist oligarchy, so of course everything done by government agencies (like the imperial fleet) was underhanded and backstabby. Even then though, there were still honorable people to be found as seen in several episodes of TNG, once episode in VOY were the Voyager crew beamed a Romulan commander though a wormhole and he agreed to send messages to people in the Federation for them, and others shown from time to time.

    Actually I believe it was a Romulan Scientist. And I don't think he ever lived long enough after going home to deliver that message for Voyager.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    edited September 2022
    rattler2 wrote: »
    By the time of TNG that process was complete and the Romulan people lived under the thumb of a full-blown fascist oligarchy, so of course everything done by government agencies (like the imperial fleet) was underhanded and backstabby. Even then though, there were still honorable people to be found as seen in several episodes of TNG, once episode in VOY were the Voyager crew beamed a Romulan commander though a wormhole and he agreed to send messages to people in the Federation for them, and others shown from time to time.

    Actually I believe it was a Romulan Scientist. And I don't think he ever lived long enough after going home to deliver that message for Voyager.

    It turns out that Telek R'Mor was both, he was a scientist who was in command of the Talvath, which he claimed to be a cargo vessel but was determined by Tuvok to actually be a science vessel poking around in an area far from any shipping lanes.

    It is possible that the ship was one of the one-person models like was seen in a TNG episode, but the bridge looked to be excessively large for that. Also, R'Mor let slip at one point that he had been out in the field for over a year and he was not up to date on news, which seems a bit long for one of those one-person ships to be out. On the other hand, Romulans may not be as susceptible to going stir-crazy in isolation as humans.

    And yes, he did die a few years before Voyager was launched, and the messages apparently never got delivered. According to Memory Alpha, in season seven Barclay mentioned that the Romulans always seened to have an unusual interest in Voyager which could mean that R'Mor passed the messages upstairs like he promised but the government kept and read them instead of passing them along.
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  • vonhellstingvonhellsting Member Posts: 543 Arc User
    A unique Romulan recruit ship would be nice. Just sayin. ;)
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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    A unique Romulan recruit ship would be nice. Just sayin. ;)

    I agree.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    That would be nice, though it might be difficult to have it only for the Romulans since Fed and KDF share Delta recruitment with them.

    If they do something like that though, it would be great to get a new singularity-cored Romulan ship. One that I think would be great would be one that combines Romulan and Dewan tech and styles, but unlike the current Dewan ships they salvaged have a singularity core (a singray-like one with a Dewan spin-tail drive would be great for instance, it could even use Dhailkhina-style warp sustainer/field shaper wings if the devs wanted to tie it to the Zhat Vash style from PIC).
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,693 Arc User
    I think the Romulan Scout ship from the Defector would be good for the basis of an Intel Frigate, which could be the reward ship for a romulan recruitment event.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    edited October 2022
    I've held my Andorian on New Romulus the last couple of days for Red Alerts and accolade collection. Just yesterday, I was looking around a bit and noticed how... rough the environment is.

    I vaguely remember it somewhere being said that the part (and the map) we see is actually (that of) an island. That could be true, considering there's mostly just water around if you look out over the area behind base camp.
    The Reman part of the city is in fact built on the water, it seems and the valley underneath the bridge connecting the beam down spot-area to the Eppoh Fields is also partially covered in water.
    With that area's altitude being much lower than that of the Eppoh Fields, but still well above the water level, you get the impression that NR's topography is far from ideal.

    I mean, all around this island there's just mostly purple water with some big rocks in it that don't seem to hold much usable land. The island itself also consists mostly of a few valleys, surrounded by huge rocks and hills. Most of the valleys that do exist are located at very different altitudes.


    That means that, for this planet to be suitable to hold a big population, there either need to be more and bigger land masses (preferably a bit flatter too) somewhere else on the planet - or the Romulans need to connect all these loose rocks and build their structures over, between and inside them.


    The interesting thing is: the Devs who designed this map all those years ago, seem to have taken this into account. The largest building is actually covering part of the sea. Not just the Reman part, the big building that seemed to be the facade of a gated community-type city, is also partially built inside the otherwise seemingly pretty useless high hills that were possibly partially seperated from the main island.

    Given that Nemesis showed that the city holding the (old) Romulan Senate was built over several interconnected islands and the seas or lakes separating them, there is a bit of evidence that the Romulans specialised in these types of structures. Although I must say, it seems the differences in altitude were much lower in the city we got to see.

    Either way, there's plenty of reason to expand on the New Romulus map. And also plenty of opportunities - either by adding new land masses, or by continuing the interesting architectural theme on this seemingly challenging map.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,831 Arc User
    Having to build extensive structures to support buildings like that could also explain why the flotilla is still out there housing a lot of the displaced population from overrun worlds like Virinat, especially with some of the population obviously going to the Dyson spheres since the Romulans are spearheading the Delta operations via the gates in their territory.

    Some of the mission dialog hints that it is the jungle/rainforest areas of the planet that are the most habitable since the flora and fauna have absorbed and neutralized much of the radiation from the ancient bombing, and that may constrain spreading out of latitude the island is in quickly if the radiation is still high in areas with lower amounts of native life (which could also have been the reason the Romulans abandoned it and moved on to settle what became known as Romulus and Remus instead of staying).

    Also, colonization seems to be combined with archaeology on New Romulus, and that island apparently had extensive ruins on it. Who knows what else they might find there, and that in itself could be a good basis for some new adventures.
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