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Concept art I drew for more caitian/ferasan hairstyles and a new head type.
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Would love to see these in-game!
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I'll see if AmbassadorKael would like to take a look. Just be aware that ever since the Design the Next Enterprise contest that gave us the Odyssey class, they've been a bit hands off on player submitted additions because of legal issues. Does look like you headed that off a bit by outright saying on your concept art that Cryptic has permission to use.
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Thanks! And yep, had that in mind when I did this. I came prepared lol
They would be easy enough to explain as different variants of the same base race in the way the Caitians and Feresan are, they could have been an early, less successful, version that used some of the old human Augment code the same way the Klingons tried doing which is a neat and tidy way of bringing the three types together in classic STO style.
And yes, the catmonky girls were indeed called "Caitian" in the script (and were supposed to actually be Caitian) according to both the scriptwriters and the makeup people, none of which were happy about JJ Abram's choice of makeup. The demo that he approved was only meant to trial the "fur" pattern of the face paint but he decided that he didn't want the rest of the makeup used for fear of accusations about bestiality, so he insisted on just the pattern and the tails.
> While I know I will get slammed for suggesting it, one thing I would like to see in the game would be a 'neko' variant similar to the Kelvin Caitians Kirk was in bed with (but with cat ears and eyes instead of human eyes and (mostly human) ears and weird skin bumps).
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> They would be easy enough to explain as different variants of the same base race in the way the Caitians and Feresan are, they could have been an early, less successful, version that used some of the old human Augment code the same way the Klingons tried doing which is a neat and tidy way of bringing the three types together in classic STO style.
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> And yes, the catmonky girls were indeed called "Caitian" in the script (and were supposed to actually be Caitian) according to both the scriptwriters and the makeup people, none of which were happy about JJ Abram's choice of makeup. The demo that he approved was only meant to trial the "fur" pattern of the face paint but he decided that he didn't want the rest of the makeup used for fear of accusations about bestiality, so he insisted on just the pattern and the tails.
I don't buy the bestiality thing. According to Mauricio Ruiz, they were aiming for simple skin make up from the very beginning. No prosthetics and no fur. And since it's just a throwaway scene that lasts a few seconds, creating elaborate costumes for a scene in darkness and in a bed (where prosthetics easily fall off) seems wasteful.
The original script might refer to them as that, but the final version was simply changed. A lot of Trek aliens changed names and appearances from script to film, and we have so many species we only see once and never again that calling those two caitian (when Lower Decks and Prodigy cement the cat-look) is a huge stretch in my book.
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The final shooting script still called them "Caitians", nothing was changed, they were still supposed to be Caitians despite the poor makeup. And making elaborate makeup for characters seen for only seconds is quite common in movies, just like it is to make detailed ship models or elaborate, intricate backdrops for scenes that are only seen for a few seconds.
On top of that, there was a lot of archaic, prudish notions being pushed in 2008-2009 so Abrams being cautious about backlash over anything seeming too outré is quite likely, much more in fact than them just saying in essence "oh, *F it, it is only a short scene, why bother doing it right?".
A lot of Trek Species cover the Furry/Scalie spectrum.
True however the Kelvin Timeline was an attempt to make Trek a viable franchise again so I can't kind of understand why they'd want to avoid stuff that they think might alienate the general public, even if I don't personally agree with that idea.
And many more. Nice work
Just like all the reptilian species are one and the same, and every species that is remotely technologically adept is linked to Borg somehow?
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Not exactly, but it seems that most of the feline races have Caitian Offshoots as their main backstory, Ferasans, Kzinti, Mirak and Lyrans all can trace their origins back to the Caitians, most of these offshoots could be the result of evolution or genetic manipulation.
Isn't that because they are literally the same species? I seem to remember it's just a rights issue that the name "Kzinti" could never be used, hence every piece of licensed work simply renamed them. They don't exist next to each other.
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Caitians existed in Trek before Kzinti entered it, the only reason Kzinti are even in Trek at all is because Niven got slammed with work and only had time to very quickly adapt one of his already written short stories into a TAS episode. I think they even mentioned in the episode that Caitians and Kzinti were not related.
Later on, TNG came up with a good reason why there were so many humanoid species in the galaxy, and that Preserver virus makes the chances that a number of intelligent and generally humanoid in form felinoid races developed independently, the same way the various other Trek races did, a near certainty.
At any rate, the two were never meant to be the same race. On the other hand, a number of the others were just bad tries to do the Caitians in a live action movie, and some of them (like the felinoid dancer on Nimbus III) were rejected by the fans to the point where Paramount started calling them separate races.
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