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AOE SPAM builds are out of control.
lanewesh
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Theres no point of play anythign else besides aoe spam & clickables.
This game no longers feels star trek but a rip off.
This game no longers feels star trek but a rip off.
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I will be the first to put my hand up and say there are some flaws with this game and it could be better in areas but I don't see how its a rip off or not Star Trek. Its the Star Trekness that keeps many of us playing so they must be getting something right with the Star Trek theme.
The game is already very easy, mobs feel like wet noodles floating arround, with the permanent exotic spam meta aka Space Wizards it make the game looks very idiotic, barelly no mob have resistances nor counters to these gameplay its a win/win/win situation that creates very lame non existent trade off system.
My sugestion is make mobs have some certain a.i where this players need to know how to use their spam builds or cut the ammount of exotic clickables a person has carry on its ship.
Add specific slots for ships to carry a torp some will have more than others.
Feels more like im playin harry potter in space, and im not a harry potter fan
Pvp is dead cause devs lost tracks of iteration and build sanity, on pve leads to one build to clear entire map due how overpowered controller exotic builds are and how bad mobs are...
Which is ridiculous.
Yes I completely agree!
Yea and another statement I agree with.
Wow, 3 that I all agree with that too.
As I believe in less is more!
Worry more about yourself and less about others. If you're not being effective enough, make corrections to yourself, stop trying to fix issues by altering others.
It's one thing to wish for the option to restrict visuals so you don't have to look at the spam, but it's something else completely to say 'I don't like what everyone else is doing and I want Cryptic to make them change.'
You know... Science Characters don't actually boost Science abilities. Technically speaking Engies and Tacs seem to do better Science than Science. lol
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No kidding, every mission they have made for the last several years has a point where you face wave after wave of enemies on a timer with your objective being ‘survive.’
We’re supposed to shoot them one at a time?
You don't need validation from the forum or the game's state. IMO it's not about Sci or any other one thing, but overall and through the years which speaks for itself. You see it as have many others who have long left. I too am only still hanging around to squeeze a bit of fun out of all the grinding. STO hasn't been my main game since a few years now. Thankfully it's not the only F2P MMO, and others truly do it exceptionally well even if not star trek - not that STO does the IP much justice anyways.
1 example: I was trying to close a portal in a temporal tfo, and a guy uses grav well on a krenim ship which was close to me, result I was targeted by all the ships stuck in this grav well.
the science skills are not the problem but it is the way they are used.
I disagree when I play with my sci builds.
when I play with a cannon build, I wait and see where the sci skills are used, before attacking.
100% agree
While this is true in essence, the spirit is not. This is, unfortunately and inexplicably, an online-only multiplayer game. Other players can have a direct effect on your "fun". Not playing a build does not save one from its experience.
So while I'm happily shooting away mumbling klingon war songs, some other guy just pulled and oneshot half of the map. That's bad design. Someone didn't look at the numbers. Hard caps do have their uses, you know.
When I can't see the enemy half of the time, and I can not tell friend and foe effects apart, that's bad design, no matter how good any individual effect looks. The space vomit on many TFOs lately is appalling.
When one player may as well solo the TFO, and in fact has a gravity well that can pretty much do it in one go, I'm going to go right ahead and say look at the numbers, because that is bad design. Red Alerts can end before you warp in some days. Then there's the ever-amusing mega well ping-pong where the enemy rapidly bounces between two screen clearing wells, or does other interesting graphical dances, before exploding. I had an Advanced Hive Assault last under a minute the other day.
Right now, I have so many endeavour perks and universal consoles that I can one-shot most enemies up to Captain with class II weapons. That's not right. No standard difficulty enemy can even damage my shields apart from Borg.
We were here 2 or 3 years ago, and we're back at it again. The game needs more difficulty options, or self-selecting difficulties. Level 65 and advanced battle zones might also be an easy update while they're at it.
The tuning is all over the place, the power-creep is staggering and unnecessary. There isn't even enough variety in the TFOs, and almost every objective is optional. What is even the point of clearing enemies at such a rate?
So, yeah, while it is a totally valid, and by game mechanics legal setup, and I'm sure it can be amusing for some, it can be a real drag if you are using a partially hybridized setup or a less-effective science setup, or a FAW. Sometimes you end up just doing banzai runs or going the opposite way just to hope to get enough hits in. People can do what they want, but clearly DPS fiends do not belong in the same division as less interested parties. The unalterable visual distraction I can not believe benefits anyone
Thats the same when one class in a mmo can reign pvp.... and tell to the others " ur just playin an inferior class".
wich if u note its a player being carried rather than carry the build, wich means something is broken.
The amount of AOE exotic clickables are bit out of controll wich is IMO the real issue not sci skills alone(they are in fact very limited).
Its cheese low effort high rewarding builds due how bad pve works, wiping maps in some seconds due spambility of the consoles skills and how strong control is vs mobs, it break sto into harry potter in space gameplay, the clutered visuals and sounds is horrible as well, im looking to play star trek... not spamwells.
Every online game needs some sorta sanity check from skills, wich STO has zero atm.
Sorry you're not open minded, and desire others be penalized, rather than realize how to use it to your advantage. If your in Cannons and someone on your team (Sci) uses Grav, or Tykens, or another Anomoly target them using wide spread since you aren't effected by control allows you to hit a lot.
Still if you upset about being pulled or controlled by Enemy, then increase your Control, it's more effective to resist than it is to pull/push.
That's using it to your advantage! While expecting others to change, isn't fair either.
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You are right here. While I do like some of the AoE abilities we've gotten, I have to agree that the visuals leave a lot to be desired. I wouldn't ask for the ability to be nerfed, just maybe the visuals.
I worked hard to build a decent sci build that does not use a single fleet item or ability. Generally, I think other players can and do appreciate someone like me gathering all the baddies in one place so they can one pass vape them, or in the case of the rura penthe TFO, they can rest assured that a Sci ship can handle one satellite so they are free to work as a floater.
Energy builds are super expensive to make but are the easiest ones to be counter in-game. Go to a patrol, find yourself surrounded by Mokais, Breens, Hirogens and you will be CC or even debuffed to the ground non-stop because the devs here don't know the words "diminishing return" when comes to debuffs and CCs. Use an exotic build, that on average will be cheaper to be made and the game is just a nonsensical power fantasy. This and many other design problems and mismanagement are the reason why I don't put money here anymore. I just play, with my decade-old account and imagine the sheer hell of how must be for a new player coming fresh for this game now that the power creep is out of control and the pay-2-win factor is off the charts.
The complete unbalance of AoE exotic builds vs everything else is just the tip of the incompetence iceberg that is sinking this game.
And megawell builds are not the same as clicky-console spam. I use megawells, yes, but I go far out of my way to avoid the blinding, screen-obscuring effects of clicky consoles. Indeed, I have posted about this many times.
I actually have epilepsy. I'm not photosensitive (that I know of), but some of these missions, tasks and queues make me SO certain they're going to give me a seizure...and for no reason! I want a skill-based exercise, like "Mine Trap" or something with puzzles and the need for skill, practice and challenge...not wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave, after wave.
Targeting and hitting multiple enemies is beneficial if most - if not all - content involves multiple waves, groups of or locations with enemies.
You can't blame players for adapting to the content they're offered. Nerfing, correcting or removing AoE-builds and abilities isn't going to solve anything. It'll just make playing the game more tedious and it won't make anything more interesting for anyone.