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Leap of Faith - Summons not working

Aside from how annoying this featured episode is, I've come across a bug that makes things even worse.

Summon abilities - at least, security escort for tactical captains and the harmonic lure kit module (which summons hur'q attendants) do not work. Security team cannot be used at all and the harmonic lure does not summon anything when activated.

I did notice that engineer turrets and drones still seem to work, and the hur'q summoned by my ground trait (when being hit, forget the name of the trait) works, but those abilities above do not.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    Targs, Mastiffs and other device based pets also don't work.

    I thought this was intentional, as the whole fight isn't "real" and so no reinforcements from your ship could beam in. The Gre'thor Targ should technically work I guess, but eh.​​
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  • eladonwarps#6040 eladonwarps Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    In my experience, there's several episodes where the lore prevents certain beam-in abilities. This includes devices and some active doff bonuses. Places include Mycelial Realm, Mirror Bajor, and apparently Gre'thor.

    I do think that the Captain skill Security Escort should possibly be exempted, like on Nukara Prime, which locks some of these things out but beams Escorts in with EV suits. Like the Orbital Strike and Nano Infestation for the other careers, it's supposed to be a powerful move.

    But I do think this is Working As Intended.
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    I considered the lore implications of 'beaming in' reinforcements at first as well, but then realized my engineer boffs are still able to beam in their turrets/stations, which kinda puts that theory out.

  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,280 Arc User
    engineers aren't beaming their stuff in, though, they're fabricating it...don't ask me how they do that with equipment small enough to fit on the body, they just do because video game magic​​
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    engineers aren't beaming their stuff in, though, they're fabricating it...don't ask me how they do that with equipment small enough to fit on the body, they just do because video game magic​​

    It was always my understanding that they're just beaming in preconstructed turrets and devices from the ship, they use transporter animations when summoning fabrications after all.

    I suppose they could be using micro replicators or personal transporter equipment with the objects having their patterns pre-stored.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    I think they beam them in, micro-replicators that fit in a tricorder open a big can of worms in-universe 😂 They use the 'cargo transporter' beam animation (I think this is a thing, but I may be misremembering stuff).

    But if they couldn't, engineering characters would be crippled during the episode. Only ability that shouldn't work is orbital strike - then again, the Risa module with the orbital strike animation probably works because it's a kit.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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