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Being harassed and bullied, still not getting help
snowwolf
Member Posts: 1,018 Arc User
Hello,
So a while ago I posted a thread about me being harassed and bullied, while not getting any help. You can view it here..
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1253865/being-harassed-and-bullied-not-getting-help
To this day the player in question.. Continues to bully and harass me, putting them on ignore does not help. Yes it does block their messages, and any messages they post in channels such as ‘Zone’ and ‘Local’, it also prevents them from trying to form a team with me or send me friend requests.
But like mentioned in the earlier thread, it does not stop them from physically finding me on maps and instances. If I am on a map, they will find me. If I switch instance, they will find me.
They will continue to use clicky powers on me, which always results in sounds and visual effects. This gets tiresome very quickly, they also use shapeshifting abilities such as holograms and so forth in order to transform into other beings or characters. In order to change their character to have a large hitbox than normal, in order to push my character around, trap me, push me off ledges etc.
Videos and screenshots in reports submitted through tickets do not help, trying to ignore them completely despite the clicky powers and being shoved around does not help. They were a member of the Starfleet Dental fleet for a while, which has been a premier trolling fleet in Star Trek Online for quite a while and a thorn in the side of the community.
I suspect they have a load of friends, equipped with channels or Discord or something. Maybe even the fleet are keeping an eye out for me, I don’t know. Because no matter what map or instance I go, they always seem to show up.
I’ve tried ignoring them..
I’ve tried getting help from forum moderators..
I’ve submitted countless reports through the ticket system..
I am on the verge of quitting the game completely cause of this one person, they obviously have no life. Because I work a full-time job with different hours. So I am not on during the same time every day, some days I’m not online at all.. But when I go online, they usually come.. Everytime.
I’ve been tempted to make a new account with a new handle, but it would cost too much.. Both in money and time invested. I don’t know what to do, I am not getting help. I’ve tried outright just ignoring them, but those clicky powers and being shoved around is quickly getting on my nerves.
So a while ago I posted a thread about me being harassed and bullied, while not getting any help. You can view it here..
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1253865/being-harassed-and-bullied-not-getting-help
To this day the player in question.. Continues to bully and harass me, putting them on ignore does not help. Yes it does block their messages, and any messages they post in channels such as ‘Zone’ and ‘Local’, it also prevents them from trying to form a team with me or send me friend requests.
But like mentioned in the earlier thread, it does not stop them from physically finding me on maps and instances. If I am on a map, they will find me. If I switch instance, they will find me.
They will continue to use clicky powers on me, which always results in sounds and visual effects. This gets tiresome very quickly, they also use shapeshifting abilities such as holograms and so forth in order to transform into other beings or characters. In order to change their character to have a large hitbox than normal, in order to push my character around, trap me, push me off ledges etc.
Videos and screenshots in reports submitted through tickets do not help, trying to ignore them completely despite the clicky powers and being shoved around does not help. They were a member of the Starfleet Dental fleet for a while, which has been a premier trolling fleet in Star Trek Online for quite a while and a thorn in the side of the community.
I suspect they have a load of friends, equipped with channels or Discord or something. Maybe even the fleet are keeping an eye out for me, I don’t know. Because no matter what map or instance I go, they always seem to show up.
I’ve tried ignoring them..
I’ve tried getting help from forum moderators..
I’ve submitted countless reports through the ticket system..
I am on the verge of quitting the game completely cause of this one person, they obviously have no life. Because I work a full-time job with different hours. So I am not on during the same time every day, some days I’m not online at all.. But when I go online, they usually come.. Everytime.
I’ve been tempted to make a new account with a new handle, but it would cost too much.. Both in money and time invested. I don’t know what to do, I am not getting help. I’ve tried outright just ignoring them, but those clicky powers and being shoved around is quickly getting on my nerves.
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The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
If you're looking for a fleet, I got you on both FED and KDF sides. Just write me in private here or ingame. @casualsto.
I do agree that you usually have to fight fire with fire. I also have a suspicion on from which unmentioned, extremely popular fleet these people may be. If you usually strike back hard enough, they'd be lining up to report you with their half-broken, hanging out feelings. But even if you're not a verbal savage, you should still enjoy the game, ignore them and come over to our side.
Let me know if I can help you out in any way.
We need to think of a solution and forward this towards STO staff. I've seen this bully-mass-report tactics in place multiple times. But meanwhile, let's help our friend here in overcoming this community problem.
While that can be quite extreme, I wouldn't advise on perma-banning or fleet dissolving, since this punishment might have an effect on innocent people who are also in that fleet.
But a one month period probation and the deletion of any previous or current posts regarding fleet recruitment during this month should do it.
Also, since this is a public griefing issue, they should apologize in this topic, to make it public or get a permaban if they refuse so. This way, we give a chance for settling the dispute, we punish the fleet without hurting other innocent users and if the other sides are refusing to end their behavior or apologize publicly, the permaban is the last clean-cut solution.
I'm also looking on snowwolf's opinion on this as well as others, including staff.
I'm sorry to hear that you still have to deal with this situation.
Kind of surprised that the other person can track you down so easily.
Do you have that person on a friend list or perhaps you are on a friend list for that person.
if it is the latter, should blocking a person not also automatically remove you from the friend list?
Perhaps a dev/moderator/someone from support can clarify this.
How a person deals with harassment is very individual. I have had a few people a few choice homophobic slurs when running TFO's with my pink and blue D7. It doesn't bother me though, but I'm guessing that's because I am not LGBTQ. I still block those people though. STO is way more fun when you don't have to deal with people assuming things about you based on the colors you choose from the ship color palette.
Edit: Okay. I managed to find it. It is under the Social (old MSN icon looking button / above the Settings and below the Mail), go to Team Settings, Privacy, and you will see the drop down for, Search Visibility. If you change it to Anonymous, then your Player Name will not show up on the map or player search function, but you will show to your fleet. Make sure this player is not a part of your fleet or has an association or alt account within your fleet.
> Hello,
>
> So a while ago I posted a thread about me being harassed and bullied, while not getting any help. You can view it here..
> https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1253865/being-harassed-and-bullied-not-getting-help
>
> To this day the player in question.. Continues to bully and harass me, putting them on ignore does not help. Yes it does block their messages, and any messages they post in channels such as ‘Zone’ and ‘Local’, it also prevents them from trying to form a team with me or send me friend requests.
>
> But like mentioned in the earlier thread, it does not stop them from physically finding me on maps and instances. If I am on a map, they will find me. If I switch instance, they will find me.
>
> They will continue to use clicky powers on me, which always results in sounds and visual effects. This gets tiresome very quickly, they also use shapeshifting abilities such as holograms and so forth in order to transform into other beings or characters. In order to change their character to have a large hitbox than normal, in order to push my character around, trap me, push me off ledges etc.
>
> Videos and screenshots in reports submitted through tickets do not help, trying to ignore them completely despite the clicky powers and being shoved around does not help. They were a member of the Starfleet Dental fleet for a while, which has been a premier trolling fleet in Star Trek Online for quite a while and a thorn in the side of the community.
>
> I suspect they have a load of friends, equipped with channels or Discord or something. Maybe even the fleet are keeping an eye out for me, I don’t know. Because no matter what map or instance I go, they always seem to show up.
>
> I’ve tried ignoring them..
> I’ve tried getting help from forum moderators..
> I’ve submitted countless reports through the ticket system..
>
> I am on the verge of quitting the game completely cause of this one person, they obviously have no life. Because I work a full-time job with different hours. So I am not on during the same time every day, some days I’m not online at all.. But when I go online, they usually come.. Everytime.
>
> I’ve been tempted to make a new account with a new handle, but it would cost too much.. Both in money and time invested. I don’t know what to do, I am not getting help. I’ve tried outright just ignoring them, but those clicky powers and being shoved around is quickly getting on my nerves.
PM us the details, especially the toon and account name of the person. We can send it to the CS lead directly.
...THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
More and more, multiplayer games are run over by idiots, rude folks, and the worst: griefers.
Not sure if applicable in STO, but cheaters also are a formidable pest in MP games.
As far as I am concerned, and I am being civil still, they should hang them by the scro... from bridges.
Let's just say, I have not much up with those folks.
They just get less sober.
While that should always be a choice for players who prefer a more anonymous playstlye it should never be the answer to bullies.
I really wish the OP the best and hope that gets sorted out so he/she can finally play peacefully.
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a) 100% agree
b) I do have a pretty clear idea which fleet it might be and having 2nd hand observed their act over the years... yeah. Baffling that this is still accepted. Makes my teeth skin crawl.
Amateur J/K
Better to hang them by their ankles, hand tied behind them, use a razor blade, take off their skin one layer at a time, after each layer is removed, cover them in salt. Hehehehehe *evil laughter*......my dad was in *Nam, him and his unit actually saw that on a film the military had for new "Cherries", to help them know what COULD happen.
Definitely! It was more of a temporary solution until things get sorted for them. I know under certain circumstances, PWE can change the players @handle. That should also not be something necessary but it might offer the player a little more security.
To add my 2 ECs... its insane that someone goes out of their way to harass another player like that to the point they are driven OUT of a game they love. I'd use a bit more colorful language but... all you'd see is tribble and I'd probably get modded.
And the worst part is... a ban won't solve anything. They can just make a new e-mail, make a new account, and pick right back up where they left off. Its like Dynamic IP back in the days of Jedi Academy. An IP ban won't work, a range ban will nail innocent people as well... having a Dynamic IP basically gave someone a license to be an a**.
We have a similar situation here, but it also, IMO, clearly is a violation of the TOS and has negatively impacted a another player to the point they were driven out of the game.
nail the frakker. We STO players gotta stick together.
At this point, does it matter? I can only hope it gets resolved and that they can enjoy playing the game on PC.
I think you misread the intent of the post. IMO the person you quoted was not "correcting" the OP for using the wrong term, he was telling them it was MORE serious than they may know, and need to act accordingly.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Did you let him/her know that Kael reached out for more information? Seems like this has Cryptic's attention, it would be a shame to just walk away now. Hopefully snowwolf will at least provide the information Kael asked if not for himself/herself then to get this stalker out of the game for the sake of others.
They just get less sober.
that is EXACTLY what needs to happen. it's up to fleet members to police their own. if they can't handle that simple responsibility the fleet needs to be tossed into the dumpster and set on fire. OP, I'm guessing this is happening on ESD or the First city.. I get that they are convenient, but maybe try not being in the popular social zones. I'm finding myself in the Dyson command more and more. been a while but are there full services in the captains table? assuming you have access, of course. if you can capture video, unblock the loser and capture it all. I'm sure Kael ca or one of the mods can get it to the right people, and the troll is history
I have, and snowwolf has said that he contacted Kael.
Now... we just wait and let the investigation proceed.