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ENTERPRISE CONTENT... WHEN? :-/
thelastdoctor12
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Does anyone else think Enterprise has been sorely overlooked in STO? Like we've had huge updates from every other series. Where's Enterprise?
Sure we've got the NX and refit and standard and mirror ENT costumes, but that's it.
I'd love to see an Enterprise expansion! Maybe a story arc surrounding the Romulan War? It's unlikely to ever be made into a series or movie, so in a video game seems to make a lot of sense. Bring back some of the Enterprise cast, almost be a way of giving them a better send off than they got in the series too.
I suspect we'll get Picard content instead, which is a shame, because that story line is proving quite dull already without trying to drag it out or add to it in game as well.
Anyone else feel that Enterprise has been ignored for too long?
Sure we've got the NX and refit and standard and mirror ENT costumes, but that's it.
I'd love to see an Enterprise expansion! Maybe a story arc surrounding the Romulan War? It's unlikely to ever be made into a series or movie, so in a video game seems to make a lot of sense. Bring back some of the Enterprise cast, almost be a way of giving them a better send off than they got in the series too.
I suspect we'll get Picard content instead, which is a shame, because that story line is proving quite dull already without trying to drag it out or add to it in game as well.
Anyone else feel that Enterprise has been ignored for too long?
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The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I certainly wouldn't complain about more Enterprise content, but I wouldn't say it's been neglected to this point.
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From what I've gathered the actors weren't very satisfied how they and the show got treated and that's why they're not doing new content for those characters, so it's not so much that it got 4 seasons and was cancelled but rather why it got cancelled in the first place. For example the actor playing T'Pol has said that she felt that her character was either under used or poorly used, her example was making T'Pol an unstable junkie for most of season 3
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> From what I've gathered the actors weren't very satisfied how they and the show got treated and that's why they're not doing new content for those characters, so it's not so much that it got 4 seasons and was cancelled but rather why it got cancelled in the first place. For example the actor playing T'Pol has said that she felt that her character was either under used or poorly used, her example was making T'Pol an unstable junkie for most of season 3
T'Pol was poorly written, true, but Jolene Blalock also couldn't act to save her life...
ENT was a trainwreck front, center and back. Partly because the network wanted a TNG clone, including using TNG weapons and aliens way before "their time" but the other part was because of really useless characters. The navigator had so few lines that I don't even remember his name, and T'Pol was a really weak attempt at Spocking/Dataing it up with 'unstable emotions'. Oh, really? How original.
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If they can't get any of the cast to get involved then they could just have us encounter someone else, maybe the crew of Columbia or a ship not seen on-screen? Story should obviously cover the Romulan War since that's where they would have gone next, if they did it as another new "faction" then normal feds would just get the missions as historical holodeck simulations like they did with the Disco stuff, or they could come up with a story about someone trying to alter the outcome of the war (new faction method seems less convoluted to me, but is also probably more work).
...Who? Oh, yeah, right, that guy who has been in space.
Ensign Travis Mayweather (sp?)
Ensign Travis Mayweather (IIRC).
True they gave us a closure to the Temporal War, but that all took place either in the future or present day game time for the most part, which makes sense considering where that ended in the series.
I agree a few more ENT era ships would be nice, would totally be down for an Intrepid type as you say and some ENT era weapons. Would kinda like the MACO gear. Ik you can get the uniforms from the Lobi store. Same with the NX refit unless you buy the latest bundle, either way, it's ruinously expensive.
But yes, a Romulan War arc would be pretty awesome. I do somewhat agree with the DS9 expansion, I was very disappointed with it, one I think so many players had been waiting for, it was very poor. The last time they put what felt like any real effort into an expansion that brought back a sizeable original cast presence was Delta Rising, it came with a long, well thought out story arc. Now we just get a few feature episodes and that's it. Shame really.
I don't consider that "finale" to be an Enterprise episode, it's just a stupid holodeck episode of TNG guest starring the cast of Enterprise.
I think a major obstacle is making the era itself relevant to modern STO. There was a lot of timey-wimey handwaving in AOY and AOD to bring those respective eras forward and while there's a lot to work with in ENT most of the big items were pulled in for the Temporal cold war (Sphere Builders, Na'Kuhl, future guy.) They could certainly do it again with ENT but there's an argument to be made that repeating the pattern a third time is less likely to have the intended impact, thus making the story feel much more token and the game as a whole more one-note. Ditto holographic simulation characters (Stamets is owning that arc.) Representation of [insert series here] isn't as important to having a fun game than constructed story arcs which leverage not only themselves but the game's setting as a whole (see. the latest FE versus AoD's one-off simulations.)
Personally, I'd much rather see a less magical plot device (ex. last ditch cryogenic freezing on a derelict ship) take a right turn on expectations to bring a character forward (Ex. Malcom) to continue a plot line of theirs (ex. Section 31) in the full context of 2411 or establish that Denobulans (like some classic sci-fi aliens, ex. Niven's Puppetiers) have an indefinite life span and Phlox is still in practice (and if I was writing a section 31 arc, I'd do both and really leverage character interactions than the mere fact of having a cameo VO in the game.) Regardless of the how, it needs a more creative approach to not just be a Saturday morning cartoon hang out with the historical figure (because compulsory parity with other series.) ENT deserves love, as with any other part of the IP, but it would be a disservice to throw it in without careful story construction and a point very specifically in mind.
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And as already mentioned, Enterprise was already heavily featured in AoY.
If we go with finding Columbia... it doesn't necessarily mean time travel. In a comic they actually found the wreck of Columbia in the Gamma Quadrant... in the 24th Century.
I don't know what happened to Columbia herself in the Destiny novels, but I know that Captain Hernandez was still around through crazy technoshenanigans involving a precursor to the Borg. But then I also heard something about Columbia's crew being the origin of the Borg and all kinds of crazy and its just... lets not go THAT route and stick to something abit more interesting.
Maybe Columbia was caught in a temporal loop like the Bozeman and we find her and break her free in 2411? Would be kinda cool to bring in Hernandez at least. That way we don't have to resort to holograms or time travel (in the traditional sense of us going back in time ourselves) to bring in someone from Enterprise.
But Terra Prime didn't have any of the TNG cast in it...
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Obviously evilmark comes from a parallel universe or alternate timeline. Just like how some people actually think that there was an episode 15 of season 2 for Voyager. The 15th episode mysteriously vanished before it could air.