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Khitomer Alliance announces new combined service

fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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edited September 2023 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I wonder what this means? Cross-faction armada's, or simply a new admiralty campaign?

Or new ships for all factions?
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    Or see this link btw:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11351123-the-khitomer-alliance-launches-new-joint-service

    There's no thread in the news section yet for it.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Incoming:

    'This is the end of any chance of new Romulan Ships!'

    'Freddie Bears will now have access to Battle Cloaks on their own ships!'

    'This will be Federation takeover!'

    The practical matter is the Ships will be similar in use as the 31st Century Bundle - same ships for use by all Factions. They won't need to create a KDF and Federation version. But they can get back to doing 3-packs with Science, Engineering, and Tactical versions. So no need for 9 (12)-packs as the 3-pack will serve all Factions.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,469 Arc User
    New Recruitment event too I reckon.
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    'Freddie Bears will now have access to Battle Cloaks on their own ships!'

    They'd be wrong in that one regardless; we've had them for years.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5
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    tyler002 wrote: »
    ltminns wrote: »
    'Freddie Bears will now have access to Battle Cloaks on their own ships!'

    They'd be wrong in that one regardless; we've had them for years.

    Indeed. They are available already on all ships.

    Those who learned about this did this the hard way and as a result simply never made it to the Wiki to share that information ;)
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    Looks to me like the 10th Anniversary ship will be a new design, incorporating design elements from Fed, Klink, Rom, and Jem concepts. I'm intrigued.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,584 Community Moderator
    I don't see them totally ditching faction specific ships, but I do see them using this concept in the future to avoid megabundles that have 3 variants for all 4 factions. It was getting rediculus already with the addition of Romulans. Throwing in Jem'hadar as well just increases the workload. I mean before it was 6 ships, 3 fed/3 KDF. Then we got Romulans. That bumped it up to 9 ships they had to design. Now with Jem'Hadar, they'd have to design 12 ships. That's just too much work, especially if Jem'Hadar and Romulans can use allied ships. Why bother other than for immersion purposes for the player to pump out that many ships so often?

    I bet we'll still see smaller bundles with 1 variant for each faction, but for the future of megabundles... this possible Hybrid style will probably be the way to go in order to keep from burning the designers out or ending up with substandard designs due to workload and time tables.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    Sounds like we are going to get ships that use design elements from all 4 factions.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,584 Community Moderator
    Wouldn't be the first time a game's ventured into joint projects between superpowers.
    latest?cb=20131022012113
    Unity 1 from SFC3. Supposed to have the most advanced sensors in the quadrant, and could track even cloaked ships. Built on the border of the Romulan Neutral Zone in the late 24th Century.

    You can guess how the Romulans felt about that one.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,487 Arc User
    Since the news section is a bit behind:
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11351123

    Looks like a cross alliance vesta variant.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • tribbulatertribbulater Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    Hard to tell where they're going with this. It seems a bit tricky/unwieldy to try and make a ship with elements from 3/4 factions. (Not that it wouldn't be interesting to see them try.)

    They might end up with doing something like, the next series is an Escort with noticeably Klingon styling, a Cruiser with Federation lines, a Science vessel with Romulan design heritage and a Carrier/Dreadnought with Dominion flavor, all based on a common build/stat framework.

    What I would least want to see is "from now on, everything's gonna look pretty much Federation in design, but, you know, with Klingon windows and a pointy Romulan beak stuck on the front."
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,487 Arc User
    The Vesta class shown may simply be https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Aventine to underline the Gamma Quadrant connection.

    We'll see which direction the devs take this development.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,487 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Looks like a cross alliance vesta variant.
    Where are you getting this from? The pic is an Oddy parked at a Klingon station.

    Thought it was a vesta, but with the Intel oddy a cloak makes a little bit more sense.

    @baddmoonrizin
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1253093/khitomer-alliance-announces-new-combined-service

    Looks like two topics about same thing. Merger?
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • magellan14magellan14 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    I think they should name the new alliance "Space Force".
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,584 Community Moderator
    Yea... that's an Ody. Probably the Yorktown variant or something. I believe the Enterprise-F was refit into one of the T6 variants after the Iconian War...
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    The ship pictured is an odyssey.
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  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    My money says this is allowing combined faction fleets,
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    tribbulater wrote: »
    Hard to tell where they're going with this. It seems a bit tricky/unwieldy to try and make a ship with elements from 3/4 factions. (Not that it wouldn't be interesting to see them try.)

    They might end up with doing something like, the next series is an Escort with noticeably Klingon styling, a Cruiser with Federation lines, a Science vessel with Romulan design heritage and a Carrier/Dreadnought with Dominion flavor, all based on a common build/stat framework.

    What I would least want to see is "from now on, everything's gonna look pretty much Federation in design, but, you know, with Klingon windows and a pointy Romulan beak stuck on the front."
    We may assume (absent evidence to the contrary) that there are a valid technological reasons why different races' ships look so drastically different. That is, something about Federation starship engineering just works better with saucers and nacelles on struts, klingon ships somehow work best when arranged into a winged, long-necked configuration, and so on.

    The other option, that starship designers are actually proposing to the admiralties of every military ever that "this isn't our best design, but it is the one that looks the most noticeably related to our earlier ships," would be ridiculous. They'd be told to stop playing around and build the best possible design instead.

    As such, a combined technology base should also have a single optimal shape language (regardless of what extent, if any, it resembles one or more of the contributors' aesthetics), not a rainbow blend of many different mix-and-match styles shoehorned in just to pay lip service to factionism.
  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    captainbrian11 wrote: »
    My money says this is allowing combined faction fleets,

    Would be nice maybe new boffs
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  • wolva10wolva10 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    well they have some potential to make it pretty awesome. Id like to see it as a lvl 65 faction you can join. Open up new arcs for it, A good chance for new zen ships with unique designs ideas like say a rom sci carrier with aspects of fed kdf and jem design.. open up all faction fighters for the carrier even maybe the frigates like the drones,callisto and brel's. Could even have a new fleet base addon the K.A.F. outpost. But we will see if its just a zen grab or somethign with actual potential
  • snowwolf#0563 snowwolf
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    rattler2 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be the first time a game's ventured into joint projects between superpowers.
    latest?cb=20131022012113
    Unity 1 from SFC3. Supposed to have the most advanced sensors in the quadrant, and could track even cloaked ships. Built on the border of the Romulan Neutral Zone in the late 24th Century.

    You can guess how the Romulans felt about that one.

    Funny, I was thinking of the scavenger base in Star Trek Elite Force.

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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Probably a new rep, we've not had one of those for a wee while so it's about time for another foray into mindnumbing dullness.
  • snowwolf#0563 snowwolf
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    postagepaid wrote: »
    Probably a new rep, we've not had one of those for a wee while so it's about time for another foray into mindnumbing dullness.

    It's just going to be a new Admiralty for starters.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited January 2020
    Can't answer the OP's question.

    I tried twice and my post has been deleted both times (not moderated, removed.)

    I guess this is another topic we can't discuss.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Looks like a cross alliance vesta variant.
    Where are you getting this from? The pic is an Oddy parked at a Klingon station.

    If you look really close, it looks like the nose registry is NCC-170....and its too blurry to make out the rest. What could the rest be?
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    is that a real question or sarcasm? because if the first three numbers are 170, the fourth is obviously 1​​
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    seaofsorrows wrote: »
    Can't answer the OP's question.

    I tried twice and my post has been deleted both times (not moderated, removed.)

    I guess this is another topic we can't discuss.
    Yet here we are, discussing it.

    Maybe it was just eaten by the Edit Monster. That will also make any mostly-identical repost automatically be eaten as well.
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