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Daisy Riddley wants to Star Trek
lordgyor
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-stars-daisy-ridley-oscar-isaac-open-joining-star-trek-john-boyega/amp/
How does everyone here feel about that?
How does everyone here feel about that?
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> Why not? It has always been about how well the person plays the character, and they both have the skill for it. It is ridiculous to think that someone would be kept out of playing a part just because they played a part in a "rival" production.
It's not because they starred in Star Wars *spits on ground*, but because those movies had such a massive divisive impact on their fans. Both on haters of the JJ Star Wars, but even scarier Reylo fans who sent death threats. Nothing personal towards Daisy, I like her eunthaism and the other guy, the "space sl*ts" as they put it themselves, but I'm not sure importing all that drama is going to be good for Star Trek.
Actors typically have very little to do with the way a movie is made, and the first two Kelvin Timeline films were about as divisive as the sequel trilogy. The common denominator here is J.J. Abrams, not Ridley, Boyega, or Isaacs.
The three of them were handed a lousy product in VII and IX, and they did the best they could. Just like I hate Janeway but I love Kate Mulgrew.
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All new instalments in franchises with 'fans' will have a divisive reaction because any hiatus is filled with headcanon that the 'fans' will then take issue with the producers daring to ignore that headcanon in favour of doing something original.
I doubt any actor gets into these franchises without knowing they'll be a focal point of contention (main characters actors, bit parts probably wont consider it).
Hopefully Disney will plough on regardless with their plans because what their doing clearly has the mass market appeal.
Also, I like her earnestness as an actor, I think she'd be good in Trek.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Actually, the latest rumor is that Disney's plan is to do nothing for the next three years or so on the cinematic front with Star Wars, which would put the next movie at about six years at the soonest. They will probably ride The Mandalorian for a few seasons until that horse dies underneath them and then play the infamous "Disney closet" game and wait until they think enough of a new audience is out there to trot Star Wars out again.
Personally, I think that is the best thing to do. TV series can allow for an extended amount of time for story development. It is part of the reason why I disliked the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie, but I liked the cartoon. It condensed Season 1 which is 7 hour and 40 minute into 1 hour and 43 minutes. The new Star Wars movies would have been much better if each movie was made into a Season. The Mandalorian had a total runtime of 5 hours and I seriously doubt it would be as good if was condensed to the same runtime as Rise of Skywalker with a runtime of 2 hours and 22 minutes.
Though if I had to pick one Star Wars actor from the sequels, I'd probably take Adam Driver. I really enjoyed his performance best, overall. Though that is not to say the others were bad.
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> Actors typically have very little to do with the way a movie is made, and the first two Kelvin Timeline films were about as divisive as the sequel trilogy. The common denominator here is J.J. Abrams, not Ridley, Boyega, or Isaacs.
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> The three of them were handed a lousy product in VII and IX, and they did the best they could. Just like I hate Janeway but I love Kate Mulgrew.
As divisive as the Kelvin movies were, this JJ Stars Wars was way, way worse. JJ and his family were getting death threats from SW fans, not ST fans.
> Sure, I wouldn't mind seeing her or the rest of the Star Wars cast in Star Trek. I think they ere pretty decent actors doing a good job, I just don't like the story that was told in the new sequels.
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> Though if I had to pick one Star Wars actor from the sequels, I'd probably take Adam Driver. I really enjoyed his performance best, overall. Though that is not to say the others were bad.
Adam Driver is great and very diverse. He's also funny - have you seen him on SNL? Sure, you never can unhear "Hi. I'm Mat" after you did, but he'd be a great addition as well 😃
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Hell... Christopher Lee, who played amazing characters like Count Dooku in Star Wars and Sarumon in Lord of the Rings, freely admitted to one movie he was in that was terrible. In fact he once said "the less said about it the better". He was referring to his role in The Howling 2. Apparently that was one helluva stinker.
If JJ can defect from CBS/Paramount because they didn't give him a sweetheart deal with his Kelvin Timeline (which by the way that has failed, ie Discovery and Picard) so can Daisy Ridley and Oscaar Isaac.
I could see a Captain Rey in our future.....Voyager 2.0.
hmmm Isaac though I could see him in a DS9 style setting. He kind strikes me what Bashir was toward the later end of DS9.
I'm down.
Enterprise, Discovery, and the Kelvin Timeline movies would like to have a word with you regarding being accepted when they first aired.
While in general what you said is true, I've seen Trek fans far more accepting of non Trek mods to Trek games than Wars fans were of non Wars mods (especially if its Trek related), seems like there's always a group of people who are so vocal AGAINST anything new unless it fits their view.
Enterprise was bashed because of various things like "Archer is a bad captain because X reason, Picard wouldn't do that" or "its too advanced compared to TOS".
Then the Kelvin Timeline movies came out and... "IT DESTROYS CANON", "ITS TOO ADVANCED", "NOT MY TREK!"
Then Discovery comes out and... "IT DESTROYS CANON", "ITS TOO ADVANCED", "NOT MY TREK", "UNIFORMS NEVER LOOKED LIKE THAT BECAUSE CAGE"...
Yea... things got ugly, and anyone who disagreed had to be beat with the "True Fan Shtick" until they conformed to their views.
If Daisy Ridley is ever in Trek, she won't be anything like Rey; Starfleet doesn't use the Force, and the Federation doesn't base long-range policy on ancient prophecies.
But there is Q and other powerful aliens in Star Trek. So it is not out of the realm of possibility for Daisy Riddley to play a powerful alien with abilities similar to the Force. However, such a role should be limited to a guest role like Q not a main role.
Both Daisy and John are in their late 20's, so that would make them ideal for positions as Lieutenant or Lieutenant Commander's on starship duty. They could be a strong supporting presence as main cast. All depends on them if they want such a role after stepping down from the main starring role in three films.
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It was literally pointed out that there are no force user type characters, and the counter is "There is Q". Who said she was gonna play a Q? No one!
There is also Wesley Crusher, Kes, and a couple others for Star Trek characters that obtain massive power, but start off innocent. So there are characters similar to Rey in Star Trek.
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> Yea... I'm wondering why the fixation on her playing a role similar to Rey. That's basically saying she WILL be typecast as the same kind of character because that's what she's known for.
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> It was literally pointed out that there are no force user type characters, and the counter is "There is Q". Who said she was gonna play a Q? No one!
I'd have her play an Orion Slavegirl, just to see her fan base flip out.
My character Tsin'xing
Which is a rumour so I'll ignore it.
So plough on regardless then? That's not exactly taking a break for 6 years is it.
Sure it will.
Why? They already have a enormous one that has grown thanks to all the new material that's come out.
Except the SW films are great films and the ST in its entirety is better than any SW film other than RotS, ESB, and RO.
All your statement means is that SW fans are even more toxic than ST fans which doesn't surprise me due to SW having more mass market appeal than ST meaning it attracts a larger population of fans and therefore a higher population of twats.
And Voyager, Deep Space 9, TNG, the TOS films, and TAS.
Andorian. She's got a nice musculature build that would look good sprayed blue. She's also the right height and looks permanently angry.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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You are not wrong. But Tellarites are cuter
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They're just not blue enough.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Walt Disney's son likened the practice to crop rotation: bumper crops have to be carefully monitored for soil damage and set fallow for a time to renew itself at the first sign of that damage (or words to that effect anyway), with the "soil" being projections of viewer interest.
The Mandalorian is not directly part of that, the "closet" practice is for movies, not "trivial" things like film shorts and TV. In fact, they are useful for testing viewer interest, and to use the farming analogy, it is a bit like planting soy or clover in order to put nitrogen back in the soil and test nutrient levels for harvest crops. And interest does tend to wain after a while, then wax again when it moves into nostalgia territory.