Yeah, even though I'm not interested in it, I just don't think it is at Promo level worthiness, I still want to admire it's design & visuals. I wonder if this previous week's 10FW (Ten Forward Weekly) episode showcased it?
Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
Yeah, even though I'm not interested in it, I just don't think it is at Promo level worthiness, I still want to admire it's design & visuals. I wonder if this previous week's 10FW (Ten Forward Weekly) episode showcased it?
Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
He did briefly - he flicked through the options and settled on the Veteran skin.
Dang it lol now I'll have to go back again & try to find it. Thanks for the heads-up about it though.
Have to note, the ship artist did great work (on the Freedom class) per usual. And it's amusingly tiny! If am honest, my love of smaller ships does mean that I am kinda tempted by it, although I don't have a character that could make good use of it and really don't want to do what my friend did and start a fresh one.
I'm glad they went with this, as it is supposed to be very tiny. At the early stages of design, it was even pretty much an oversized shuttle and the final design seems not to be far from the original idea, size-wise:
After reading the comments it seems most people feel that the ship is not worth it. However, I decided to take the plunge and I’m glad I did. I play a Fed Engineer and the Franklin is working well for me.
I like that the Franklin flies like an escort but is not as squishy and has Weapon System Efficiency. The Franklin can be set up to surprisingly effective in PVE (not sure about PVP as this is not something I do). While there are better consoles, I found the VHF Disruptive Transmission useful in PVE particularly against Hurq swarms. I also like the visuals so I'm thinking about keeping it on the ship. I don’t think the trait is worth using as there are far better ones out there.
Personally, I found the Franklin more enjoyable than the Discovery Constitution and I think it will be one of my main ships along with the Temporal Light Cruiser and NX refit.
You always complain about cost of items yet you fly the Temporal Constitution. How did you get that ship and what exactly prevents you from doing that for other ships you want?
After reading the comments it seems most people feel that the ship is not worth it. However, I decided to take the plunge and I’m glad I did. I play a Fed Engineer and the Franklin is working well for me.
I like that the Franklin flies like an escort but is not as squishy and has Weapon System Efficiency. The Franklin can be set up to surprisingly effective in PVE (not sure about PVP as this is not something I do). While there are better consoles, I found the VHF Disruptive Transmission useful in PVE particularly against Hurq swarms. I also like the visuals so I'm thinking about keeping it on the ship. I don’t think the trait is worth using as there are far better ones out there.
Personally, I found the Franklin more enjoyable than the Discovery Constitution and I think it will be one of my main ships along with the Temporal Light Cruiser and NX refit.
Well, 'worth' is entirely subjective and no one can tell you that your opinion on a ships worth is right or wrong.
The judgement is based on the fact that the Franklin is an R&D Grand Prize ship putting it's rarity and cost of obtaining up there with the absolute most highly desired ships in the game. The 'average' Captain would proably pick a more powerful or generally more desirable ship when opening the pack.
To you, the Franklin was the most desirable, so you picked that. It's not right and it's not wrong.. it just is. That being said, the fact that you are enjoying the ship and feel you are getting more out of it then another ship you could have picked means the ship was worth it.
You always complain about cost of items yet you fly the Temporal Constitution. How did you get that ship and what exactly prevents you from doing that for other ships you want?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure I recall @smokebailey saying that it was received as a gift from a friend.
Bingo.
My friend was lucky to win 3 out of 5 packs.
No way in tribble Hades could I win one, or buy one.
After reading the comments it seems most people feel that the ship is not worth it. However, I decided to take the plunge and I’m glad I did. I play a Fed Engineer and the Franklin is working well for me.
I like that the Franklin flies like an escort but is not as squishy and has Weapon System Efficiency. The Franklin can be set up to surprisingly effective in PVE (not sure about PVP as this is not something I do). While there are better consoles, I found the VHF Disruptive Transmission useful in PVE particularly against Hurq swarms. I also like the visuals so I'm thinking about keeping it on the ship. I don’t think the trait is worth using as there are far better ones out there.
Personally, I found the Franklin more enjoyable than the Discovery Constitution and I think it will be one of my main ships along with the Temporal Light Cruiser and NX refit.
As long as you found it worth it & enjoy it that is what matters regardless of what my opinion is or any others :-)
After reading the comments it seems most people feel that the ship is not worth it. However, I decided to take the plunge and I’m glad I did. I play a Fed Engineer and the Franklin is working well for me.
I like that the Franklin flies like an escort but is not as squishy and has Weapon System Efficiency. The Franklin can be set up to surprisingly effective in PVE (not sure about PVP as this is not something I do). While there are better consoles, I found the VHF Disruptive Transmission useful in PVE particularly against Hurq swarms. I also like the visuals so I'm thinking about keeping it on the ship. I don’t think the trait is worth using as there are far better ones out there.
Personally, I found the Franklin more enjoyable than the Discovery Constitution and I think it will be one of my main ships along with the Temporal Light Cruiser and NX refit.
As long as you found it worth it & enjoy it that is what matters regardless of what my opinion is or any others :-)
Yeah, even though I'm not interested in it, I just don't think it is at Promo level worthiness, I still want to admire it's design & visuals. I wonder if this previous week's 10FW (Ten Forward Weekly) episode showcased it?
Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
He did briefly - he flicked through the options and settled on the Veteran skin.
Dang it lol now I'll have to go back again & try to find it. Thanks for the heads-up about it though.
If only STO had a youtube channel to show highlights of streams or videos of new ships, visuals, etc.
Yeah, even though I'm not interested in it, I just don't think it is at Promo level worthiness, I still want to admire it's design & visuals. I wonder if this previous week's 10FW (Ten Forward Weekly) episode showcased it?
Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
He did briefly - he flicked through the options and settled on the Veteran skin.
Dang it lol now I'll have to go back again & try to find it. Thanks for the heads-up about it though.
If only STO had a youtube channel to show highlights of streams or videos of new ships, visuals, etc.
Well, there are players who do that. Timber Wolf, STOunrefined(or however his name is spelled) to name a couple. STOunrefined showed me that Nimbus 3 is the best place to showcase ships with visuals.
These are players who also know how to play the game. If STO had a youtube channel for showcasing stuff, they'd get raked over the coals and roasted by people who pay attention to detail, such as gameplay. Look at the latest Ten Forward stream and the thread talking about it to see what I mean.
You always complain about cost of items yet you fly the Temporal Constitution. How did you get that ship and what exactly prevents you from doing that for other ships you want?
To be fair, I'm pretty sure I recall @smokebailey saying that it was received as a gift from a friend.
Bingo.
My friend was lucky to win 3 out of 5 packs.
No way in tribble Hades could I win one, or buy one.
Change the "could," to "would," and you'd be correct. It's not impossible, you're just defeating yourself by insisting on this path. It's perfectly feasible to become space-rich. It requires not sitting there, complaining about those who climbed their way up. Do the work, and in time you too can roll in EC. Not only that, you'd get a sense of accomplishment after the journey. Bitter jealousy is a stinky, stinky cologne.
Yeah, even though I'm not interested in it, I just don't think it is at Promo level worthiness, I still want to admire it's design & visuals. I wonder if this previous week's 10FW (Ten Forward Weekly) episode showcased it?
Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
He did briefly - he flicked through the options and settled on the Veteran skin.
Dang it lol now I'll have to go back again & try to find it. Thanks for the heads-up about it though.
If only STO had a youtube channel to show highlights of streams or videos of new ships, visuals, etc.
I went back to the recorded Twitch version of their 10FW & saw it, that Ambassador Kael did it quickly & didn't cover it all but was decent. YouTube has a couple of reliable STO 'influencers' that usually do a good job so I'll wait for their presentation.
I have to agree with NX Films, it would have been a good pick as the Lobi ship for the Divergence Lockbox.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
I have to agree with NX Films, it would have been a good pick as the Lobi ship for the Divergence Lockbox.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
Shame.
Well, have to admit - had a box sitting in a character's bank that I won some months ago whilst opening R&D packs for Lobi. Decided to take the plunge and open said box for this ship; as said in an earier post, I love smaller starships and that was a big motivating factor in this.
Anyway, gave this ship to my Caitian Tactical character I haven't used for ages - partly because I don't generally favour playing Tac and partly because said character never had a ship that I particuarly 'took' to. I'm hoping this ship will be it.
Said character has a pretty woeful choice of equipment but was at least able to swap some Sensor-linked dual cannons from another character to use on this ship, and for now will have to make do with Adapated MACO deflector and engine and Bajor Defense warp core and shield - the best I had available. And did at least have five Locator consoles to pop on her.
Ran of out time whilst trying to set it up (work/family reasons), so haven't used it yet - but again, I love how small she is and am guessing she's going to be adequately nimble!
Not the choice I would have personally made.. but everyone has different tastes and different wants/needs from a ship.
I do think it's a cool looking ship, and I hope you enjoy flying it!
Visually speaking it is the only Kelvin ship I really like (the JJprise looks like a deformed lampoon of the Constitution class and the Vengeance just looks dumb with the useless cutout), and the detailing in very nice. If I ever got one of those boxes there are just too many other ships I would rather have so I will probably never get a Franklin however.
I have to agree with NX Films, it would have been a good pick as the Lobi ship for the Divergence Lockbox.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
Shame.
SAME.
Seems more of the 1 billion+ ships are coming out than ever, and only one's benefiting in game are the scalpers.
I've yet to see a SINGLE Franklin in game. Oy.
'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
Judge Dan Haywood
'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I have to agree with NX Films, it would have been a good pick as the Lobi ship for the Divergence Lockbox.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
Shame.
SAME.
Seems more of the 1 billion+ ships are coming out than ever, and only one's benefiting in game are the scalpers.
I've yet to see a SINGLE Franklin in game. Oy.
Once again...this MIGHT make sense if not for the fact that I can't throw a stick and not hit a discoprise....
Very True, I see the Discoprise, the Juggernaut and even Tzen-Tar's everywhere.. so the problem isn't the price, it's lack of desirability. The ship is simply in too high of a price bracket to be worth it for most players. It isn't that people don't have the EC, anyone can get the EC with a little effort, the issue is that once they save up that EC they will spend it on a different ship.
The kinda funny thing is that this has a side effect of actually making the ship more desirable due to rarity. Go figure.
I have to agree with NX Films, it would have been a good pick as the Lobi ship for the Divergence Lockbox.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
Shame.
Well, have to admit - had a box sitting in a character's bank that I won some months ago whilst opening R&D packs for Lobi. Decided to take the plunge and open said box for this ship; as said in an earier post, I love smaller starships and that was a big motivating factor in this.
Anyway, gave this ship to my Caitian Tactical character I haven't used for ages - partly because I don't generally favour playing Tac and partly because said character never had a ship that I particuarly 'took' to. I'm hoping this ship will be it.
Said character has a pretty woeful choice of equipment but was at least able to swap some Sensor-linked dual cannons from another character to use on this ship, and for now will have to make do with Adapated MACO deflector and engine and Bajor Defense warp core and shield - the best I had available. And did at least have five Locator consoles to pop on her.
Ran of out time whilst trying to set it up (work/family reasons), so haven't used it yet - but again, I love how small she is and am guessing she's going to be adequately nimble!
Not the choice I would have personally made.. but everyone has different tastes and different wants/needs from a ship.
I do think it's a cool looking ship, and I hope you enjoy flying it!
Well, to be fair, I already have the DSC Constitution, the DSC D7 and the Mirror Crossfield. The DSC Connie has become my favourite ship.
I mean, I did briefly wonder if I should've selected the Vaadwaur Juggernaught, which I guess would be the 'popular/recommended' choice if I'd asked, but that ship doesn't appeal to me.
When it all boils down to it, I'm actually more than happy with the Franklin - I like the design, I love the size, she's appropriately nimble and (to me at least) downright fun to fly.
How do you get so lucky?
In the past 5 years of playing this game, I only won ONE ship from a box, and that was like a Tholian Orb Weaver, back in early 2015.
I haven't seen one in-game yet, seen a handful on the Exchange, & haven't seen any videos showcasing it on YT or elsewhere on the internet.
I haven't seen one either.
Cause hardly anyone can afford one, I bet.
Have to admit, I saw this on Faceoook and it did make me laugh:
That's right, captains. Now you too can take command of this 146 year old starship! Somehow, this antique will perform comparably to state of the art ships of today. Coming next season, you can now take command of the HMS Victory* and give those Borg a full-on broadside from her 32 pound guns! Show those pesky Borg what a wooden hulled ship can do in space! It makes as much sense as anything else in game!
*only available in the new age of sail lockbox. Odds have been readjusted to be even slimmer so you have more fun opening them!
You know, that'd actually make a good extension to the April Fools' day "event". Just for one day, you have a PvP and PvE queues where your only choice of ship is a flying galleon with cannons and fused equipment and you just have fun shooting cannon balls in a bottle-shaped map.
All because Q was bored and started to get interested in Picard's hobbies with antiques.
Heck, it could even be a real mission where Q warps reality to have you fight the Borg with sea ships and swords, with your Captain in a fancy navy uniform. And the Borg would have pirate hats, boots and eye patches, a giant pirate flag on their ships, and their greeting would get the "YARR, MATEYS" treatment. And the only way to regain health is to drink tea.
> @seaofsorrows said: > (Quote) > > Very True, I see the Discoprise, the Juggernaut and even Tzen-Tar's everywhere.. so the problem isn't the price, it's lack of desirability. The ship is simply in too high of a price bracket to be worth it for most players. It isn't that people don't have the EC, anyone can get the EC with a little effort, the issue is that once they save up that EC they will spend it on a different ship. > > The kinda funny thing is that this has a side effect of actually making the ship more desirable due to rarity. Go figure.
Well I disagree on the rarity, atleast overall. It might make it more desirable to a small sect I suppose.
But yeah, the Franklin just feels like a Lobi ship. Stat wise it doesn't seem to be that much better than the Elachi Qulash and that thing was free.
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Wow, just went through the 10FW. Mike F. (Ambassador Kael) did use the Franklin frigate in some play-throughs so that was nice, but didn't even bother with the ship tailor, unless I missed it.
Cause hardly anyone can afford one, I bet.
Dang it lol now I'll have to go back again & try to find it. Thanks for the heads-up about it though.
> If the drop rates arent a joke, how many boxes does it take to win a ship?
Well, after 108, still no ship. Not happy
I like that the Franklin flies like an escort but is not as squishy and has Weapon System Efficiency. The Franklin can be set up to surprisingly effective in PVE (not sure about PVP as this is not something I do). While there are better consoles, I found the VHF Disruptive Transmission useful in PVE particularly against Hurq swarms. I also like the visuals so I'm thinking about keeping it on the ship. I don’t think the trait is worth using as there are far better ones out there.
Personally, I found the Franklin more enjoyable than the Discovery Constitution and I think it will be one of my main ships along with the Temporal Light Cruiser and NX refit.
You always complain about cost of items yet you fly the Temporal Constitution. How did you get that ship and what exactly prevents you from doing that for other ships you want?
Well, 'worth' is entirely subjective and no one can tell you that your opinion on a ships worth is right or wrong.
The judgement is based on the fact that the Franklin is an R&D Grand Prize ship putting it's rarity and cost of obtaining up there with the absolute most highly desired ships in the game. The 'average' Captain would proably pick a more powerful or generally more desirable ship when opening the pack.
To you, the Franklin was the most desirable, so you picked that. It's not right and it's not wrong.. it just is. That being said, the fact that you are enjoying the ship and feel you are getting more out of it then another ship you could have picked means the ship was worth it.
Congrats on your ship, glad you like it.
Bingo.
My friend was lucky to win 3 out of 5 packs.
No way in tribble Hades could I win one, or buy one.
As long as you found it worth it & enjoy it that is what matters regardless of what my opinion is or any others :-)
If only STO had a youtube channel to show highlights of streams or videos of new ships, visuals, etc.
Well, there are players who do that. Timber Wolf, STOunrefined(or however his name is spelled) to name a couple. STOunrefined showed me that Nimbus 3 is the best place to showcase ships with visuals.
These are players who also know how to play the game. If STO had a youtube channel for showcasing stuff, they'd get raked over the coals and roasted by people who pay attention to detail, such as gameplay. Look at the latest Ten Forward stream and the thread talking about it to see what I mean.
Change the "could," to "would," and you'd be correct. It's not impossible, you're just defeating yourself by insisting on this path. It's perfectly feasible to become space-rich. It requires not sitting there, complaining about those who climbed their way up. Do the work, and in time you too can roll in EC. Not only that, you'd get a sense of accomplishment after the journey. Bitter jealousy is a stinky, stinky cologne.
I went back to the recorded Twitch version of their 10FW & saw it, that Ambassador Kael did it quickly & didn't cover it all but was decent. YouTube has a couple of reliable STO 'influencers' that usually do a good job so I'll wait for their presentation.
I actually like the ship, it's kinda cool and different.. I think that as usual, the art team just did an amazing job with the model. If it wasn't an R&D Grand Prize Ship, I would certainly fly one, but I won't spend 1B+ to get it. For that much, there are just better and more desirable options.
Shame.
Not the choice I would have personally made.. but everyone has different tastes and different wants/needs from a ship.
I do think it's a cool looking ship, and I hope you enjoy flying it!
SAME.
Seems more of the 1 billion+ ships are coming out than ever, and only one's benefiting in game are the scalpers.
I've yet to see a SINGLE Franklin in game. Oy.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Very True, I see the Discoprise, the Juggernaut and even Tzen-Tar's everywhere.. so the problem isn't the price, it's lack of desirability. The ship is simply in too high of a price bracket to be worth it for most players. It isn't that people don't have the EC, anyone can get the EC with a little effort, the issue is that once they save up that EC they will spend it on a different ship.
The kinda funny thing is that this has a side effect of actually making the ship more desirable due to rarity. Go figure.
How do you get so lucky?
In the past 5 years of playing this game, I only won ONE ship from a box, and that was like a Tholian Orb Weaver, back in early 2015.
All because Q was bored and started to get interested in Picard's hobbies with antiques.
Heck, it could even be a real mission where Q warps reality to have you fight the Borg with sea ships and swords, with your Captain in a fancy navy uniform. And the Borg would have pirate hats, boots and eye patches, a giant pirate flag on their ships, and their greeting would get the "YARR, MATEYS" treatment. And the only way to regain health is to drink tea.
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> Very True, I see the Discoprise, the Juggernaut and even Tzen-Tar's everywhere.. so the problem isn't the price, it's lack of desirability. The ship is simply in too high of a price bracket to be worth it for most players. It isn't that people don't have the EC, anyone can get the EC with a little effort, the issue is that once they save up that EC they will spend it on a different ship.
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> The kinda funny thing is that this has a side effect of actually making the ship more desirable due to rarity. Go figure.
Well I disagree on the rarity, atleast overall. It might make it more desirable to a small sect I suppose.
But yeah, the Franklin just feels like a Lobi ship. Stat wise it doesn't seem to be that much better than the Elachi Qulash and that thing was free.