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When do you think we'll see the next warbird release?
ichaerus1
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When the announcement came that Romulan players would get to use Fed/KDF ships up to T6, it set off a bad smelling storm. The recon raptor/escort ship pack was released. Some people said that it wouldn't become a pattern, "nothing to see here," "wait and see what Cryptic do," "everything's fine," drek like that. Then came ship packs, lockbox ship releases, promo ship packs. An embargo for about two years. Still no T6 Ha'feh, still no T6 Ha'nom, still no T6 Romulan carrier-esque ship that isn't bound to a lockbox/promo pack, still no Romulan D-7.
Finally a quad pack was burped out, giving the JH a new warship as well. Then back to the embargo. Will this be the new pattern? 1 singular warbird, once every two years?
This also applies to JH ships. I don't recall a JH specific shuttle(if someone knows otherwise, I'm happy to be corrected), certainly not a General's Chariot LTS equivalent either. Same with T-5U/T6 JH LTS ship.
My thought is that we won't see another warbird(singularity core using ship) or JH ship put out, until after the esteedee/mushroom kingdom stuff with J'ula Whiplash is resolved, the Mirror Leeta/Killy arcs are finished, and STO Diplomacy Grandpa(Picard) comes out, if that. Ballpark guess says 1 1/2 to 2 years. When do you guys think it'll happen?
Finally a quad pack was burped out, giving the JH a new warship as well. Then back to the embargo. Will this be the new pattern? 1 singular warbird, once every two years?
This also applies to JH ships. I don't recall a JH specific shuttle(if someone knows otherwise, I'm happy to be corrected), certainly not a General's Chariot LTS equivalent either. Same with T-5U/T6 JH LTS ship.
My thought is that we won't see another warbird(singularity core using ship) or JH ship put out, until after the esteedee/mushroom kingdom stuff with J'ula Whiplash is resolved, the Mirror Leeta/Killy arcs are finished, and STO Diplomacy Grandpa(Picard) comes out, if that. Ballpark guess says 1 1/2 to 2 years. When do you guys think it'll happen?
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So would you rather the Dominion use another faction's shuttle or the JH bug ship instead for the episodes and TFO that requires a shuttle, instead of Cryptic coming up with an original design?
as far as a new warbird, when my son starts in with the "when..." stuff I like to say "sometime between Pigs flying and Hell freezing over"
We get it, you don't like Discovery and blame it for the lack of warbirds.
The real reason is money. Cryptic needs to feed on our cash monies in order to survive, and there are not enough Romulan players spending enough money to justify parity or anything close to it.
7 out of 10 captains are Federation. The other 3 are a mix of KDF, Romulan, Jem'Hadar. Most likely then 7 out of 10 ships sold are Fedships. Most likely adding a new average-popularity Fedship will also outsell an average-popularity Romship by something like 5-10 to 1.
The business people say: "Shall we spend X weeks on a Romship and sell 5,000 or on a Fedship and sell 50,000?" It's a tough decision with no obvious answer, so perhaps they flip a coin?
Just from the mix of captains you'd expect them to release somewhere between 5-10 Fedships for every Romship, so a wait between new ones is something we should accept.
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That 4-faction pack was especially disappointing. To think they actually did the work making 4 different consoles and traits for them, then wasted the whole thing by making all the ships give the same faction-locked ones so there's no point buying the whole pack except for the Admiralty cards.
They only have the red-blue line left to erase and then we can have all ships unique again instead of packing 2-4 copies of the same ship with different graphics.
It already is.
My character Tsin'xing
Well based on the trailer one of them is already in the game as Romulan starter ship (there's a ship that looks very much like a T'liss done with modern effects) as for the others we'll have to wait and see.
eh that was a flimsy excuse to start with and the last few packs have been JJ trek based and still have lacked Romulan ships even with having a few JJ trek Rom ships already.
Hopefully it will be much sooner than once every 2 years but I don't think we'll see many going forward because well we haven't seen many. Maybe they'll give us one every 6 months at least
Hard to say at this point. If I were to guess I'd just say that perhaps after Romulus went bye-bye, the romulans started using old schematics to build smaller ships that are cheap and easy to maintain now that their economy must have taken a huge hit.
Or… some romulans restored old ships that were stashed away in other sectors.
Except, that there are no actual Kelvin Timeline Romulan ships (Nero's ship doesn't count since it was from the original timeline and was just a heavily modified mining ship). The only KT Romulan ship is one of Cryptic's design.
There were also no Romulan ships in Discovery either, since they were sticking to canon that the Romulans wouldn't appear for another 10 years. Season 3 may not give us Romulan ships either considering that a) Romulus is gone in 2387 and b) we don't know the full state of the galaxy 800 years further into the future than we've ever glimpsed in Star Trek.
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There probably were a few. Just under cloak
I'm sure we'll see another Warbird sometime....in 2020
I have to disagree with you here. Not on the percentage of Faction captains but on the spending money part. I own just about every Romulan ship available with the exception of the newest one, and the Pilot ships. I also must even tho I'm a lifer buy many ship slots and dry dock slots for each character regardless of their faction due to the number of ships I own which is an ongoing process to this day. As for the Pilot ships, I just didn't care for those appearance wise. As for the newest Warbird, With my Daughter and I moving to Illinois from Florida coming up (near the end of this month) I just haven't had the extra money. It is set in stone for me that I do want that one so as soon as I can afford it I'll have it too.
And just FYI, nearly 70% of my Captains are Romulans or Romulan/Alien mixes with the remaining 30% split nearly evenly although it may favor the KDF a lil.
I don't mind spending a lil on a game I love. And I do agree with you that not just Cryptic, but all game Productions need to generate income to survive. They are a business after all.
My point being that Cryptic already made a Romulan ship for the Kelvin Timeline and now has dropped them again with the new Kelvin timeline ships they've released.
The excuse for lack during Discovery was "there are no Romulans in Discovery" like it doesn't have anything to do with player populations and Federation ships being easy money makers. Than it just gets conveniently forgotten when someone brings up the current timeline ship packs they released without Romulan vessels in them during the Discovery content rollout
But now the excuse of dropping them again is "well no Romulans in Kelvin.. just ignore the one they did already"
I just find it eyeroll inducing, at least posts like davefenstrator give me hope that not everyone is delusional and are willing to admit Cryptic just wants the money.
I imagine yes during Picard we'll see a few Romulan ships but I can guarantee you that if for some reason there is a lack of Federation vessels Cryptic will cook em up even if there's no Federation ships in Picard. (maybe he's on shuttles and freighters moving around)