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lazarus51166
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The tl;dr version is that it wasn't laughed out of court and has been allowed to proceed to the discovery phase, no pun intended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFWRiAmB52Y
I don't think its going to get very much further than that, but stranger things have happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFWRiAmB52YI don't think its going to get very much further than that, but stranger things have happened
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Its stupid. Not only that... I had never even HEARD of that game before all this shtako.
Now I'm wondering if this wasn't just a publicity stunt by Anas Abdin.
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I wonder if it is, backed up by everyone who rages against Discovery.
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It is more likely that CBS and the indie game developer got the inspiration for the Tardigrade from the recent Cosmos TV series. Neil deGrasse Tyson did say that Tardigrades are so tough they can survive naked in the vacuum of space. So it does make sense for multiple writers to use Tardigrades as a space creature. Also, space creatures need some interesting form of transportation to travel to their next meal.
Getting inspiration from a popular science show makes far more sense than from an unknown game that the vast majority of people have never heard of until the lawsuit.
Also, the thing about the tardigrade taking on DNA from the fungal cells was borrowed from a 2014 biology paper (which was later proven incorrect: Earth tardigrades actually AREN'T capable of horizontal gene transfer).
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I'm hoping for the opposite
for the LITTLE GUYS to win for once.
CBS has been so arrogant in this from the start. "We won't sue YOU!" <
BAKA JERK OFFS!
I wanna see the big bad, corporations FINALLY get one shove up THEIR you know what's, for a change.
So I am rooting for this fellow.
The truth is the lawsuit is an absurd joke that should have been laughed out of court on day one. The dev is a guy who got caught stealing the intro from dune word for word for his game and who went back and tweaked several things as well as making statements that made it sound more in line with discovery prior to announcing this lawsuit. He has no business pointing fingers at anybody for stealing anything
The reality is he has to prove they not only stole the concept but stole it specifically from him, and that they had access to enough of his info to do it. Which he can't. The discovery phase is going to end with the case getting dismissed. At which point he will be fortunate if cbs doesn't get pissy and decide to sue him for defamation
> That's all nice and good...but that was not what the complaint was about. You are falling for what the CBS lawyers were trying to do by obfuscate the actual legal complaint with real world facts.
Nah, I just find the science more interesting than the complaint.
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I was aware of the game at least a year before TRIBBLE got on the air. I had forgotten all about it until a friend a mine told how TRIBBLE was a rip-off of Dune and Tardigardes. I then went back to look it up and the similarities were staggering. The character has a very similar name, is TRIBBLE and has a black boyfriend, the uniforms are very similar (not Star Trek like at all) and he travels the mycelium network. Really? But the real problem here is the Tardigardes themselves. The real things are microscopic. But in the game they are man-sized. And guess what? This is exactly how they appear in TRIBBLE. And there were apparently no Tardigardes in Fuller's version of TRIBBLE so they were brought in late in production, years after the game had been registered and started production. The developer was not even aware that TRIBBLE had copied him until someone told him so. I never liked this bad parody of Star Trek but that was the nail in the coffin for me. Star Trek died with Enterprise.
No, that isn't what i'm saying. I'm saying that he has made deliberate attempts to try to make it look like cbs stole ideas from him. He changed several details retroactively to try to make things more in line with discovery. I'm also saying that he himself is a proven liar and thief of intellectual property, which proves nothing he claims is trustworthy. Particularly when you combine that knowledge with his retroactive changes to the game to try to give himself a reason to sue. The thing about liars is they tend to point fingers and accuse others of doing the things they themselves are guilty of
In short? I'm saying he is a liar and trying to pull a scam. Likely hoping for a settlement offer
The burden of proof in this case requires him to prove cbs both had knowledge of the game and deliberately ripped off his game in developing discovery. He can't do that and will never be able to do that. The burden on proof is on HIM to prove these things, not on them to disprove them, and in this case he must absolutely prove both occurred or he has no case.
lol what? There is nothing 'dodgy' about anything the lawyers did. Do you think cbs - a multi billion dollar company, hires idiots as their legal team? But there very much is quite a bit dodgy about what the dev has been doing
Oh really? Thats funny considering i've taken multiple people to court for defamation, and won every time. I guarantee you I have far more experience in that particular area than you do. But by all means, keep telling someone who has successfully taken multiple people to court for defamation, that they don't understand defamation
No. Malice doesn't mean what you think it means. As far as any court is concerned, attempting to TRIBBLE somebody over in a way that leads to or attempts to lead to your financial gain is more than sufficient malice to take him to court for defamation. I'll say it again - i've done it. It does not require '100%' proving you knew it was false when you made your defamatory statement. That would be absurd and virtually impossible in any case. All cbs has to do is prove he didn't make a reasonable effort to prove what he said was true before he said it. and he didn't. He not only was very quick to make the accusation, he took the steps of altering his own work and made statements to deliberately make people think they ripped him off AND took them to court to hammer in his point.
In this case, all a court will care about in a defamation suit is whether this case was dismissed, which it will be. Plenty of people have sued for defamation after having a false claim against them dismissed. It happens all the time
To put it simply, if you're going to accuse a multi billion dollar company of stealing your concept and making money off it, you had better have some pretty strong proof of it, or they can sue you for defamation. Its very much just that simple.
Costing you a fortune in legal fees IS damages. That aside, shall we start with the fact that making public accusations to the point of dragging them into court results in significant damage to the reputation of the accused and therefore cost them money as a business? Hint: that alone is legally considered damages and grounds for monetary compensation. You are making it clear you don't know what defamation is or why you can sue people for it
and the basics are: if you accuse somebody of stealing from you publicly you are giving them grounds for a defamation lawsuit. if you take them to court and lose, you're giving them further grounds, backed up by a court verdict that what you claimed was not true
No it isn't. Not in the slightest. What it actually means is that the judge is saying: 'you use tartigrades and they use tartigrades and you are making an accusation that they stole stuff from you. now prove they stole from you within x number of days or the case is going to be dismissed on the spot'
No it wouldn't. If anything it would have violated the developers legal rights to dismiss it on the spot like that. Why? Because a plaintiff has the legal right to attempt to prove their case, no matter how legit the case may or may not be. In this case that means being able to access the development history of discovery, which would contain any such evidence. The developer can't gain access to that information in order to attempt to prove his case on his own, which requires entering the discovery phase, which requires cbs to turn over the relevant information relating to the development process of the series. It got that far because it literally had to
Nope, and I just explained why this is not true. Because of the nature of the case, he can't even attempt to prove his case, which is his legal right, without entering the discovery phase to get access to the relevant info
Nope. That would allow them to cherry pick what information was provided to the court. The plaintiff has a legal right to access all relevant information, not just what notes cbs wants to show them at their discretion
No it doesn't
No it doesn't
No it wasn't. and considering what you've claimed so far I wouldn't point fingers about lacking critical thinking skills at anybody