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Voths reclaim their history!
jdadon
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Picture this. Voth opens up to distant origins theory. Campaigning there lost history. Finding their ancestors path, claiming planets their ancestor once touched. Using doctrine as a weapon to force inhabitants to accept Voth rule, evacuate the planet or die. Federation begins to receive ships leaving edge of delta quadrant asking for sanctuary. Most furthest part of the beta quadrant and Voth scout ships begin to visit random planets "surveying" for habitual and when they find ancestors bones they launch a city ship to claim the planet under doctrine. Could be good system patrol in beta quadrant. Most notable part of the season or season special is Voths launch a full scale attack at earth to claim their home world. Starfleet falls? New organization replaces starfleet? Voth accepts Prime directive? At the end of the season the captain successfully stops the ministry, doctrine unravels leaving them to find a new way. Voths are welcomed home on earth.
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I would welcome the Voth as an opponent, but with focus on Star Trek Discovery it'll be a while before it even comes into play.
Even if Star Trek Discovery does not survive the next season then STO will still follow the Disco timeline and its introduced antagonists for the time being.
Also since forra gegen was trying to find proof. Doesn't that also say there are other Voths out there who are questioning distant origin theory. It would take quite a few people who may want to know and forra gegen was the one to make some waves it proving it. But fear of consequence to violating doctrine keeps the rest quiet. They pass their ideas to their children.. Those children are now in position of power now. They can change doctrine, just like how the change it in the past. By breaking trans-warp threshold.
lol.
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
It's also been far more recent than since Voyager, that the Voth clashed with members of "The Big Three," while dealing with the Undine, and the Borg, and whoever else that we don't know about.
What about the Vaadwaur? Or are they not a major race? Same with the Hazari(unsure on spelling), Hirogen, Benthans, Kazon?
My character Tsin'xing
Before 1915, a mere century ago, there was a town to which my step-grandfather's family migrated from Germany. It was a lumber town built on a railroad, and though it was built on stilts in the middle of the swamp it had all the modern conveniences.
In 1915 a hurricane came through and destroyed the town. I've been there: it is gone. Even knowing where to look, (Grampa took us fishing there and showed us where the town was back before the Interstate was built through it,) there was no evidence there had ever been a town. It once had a railroad repair station and a sawmill! I suppose experts could go over the site and discover remains, if they dug through the muck, but they would have to have old maps so they would know where to look. Anywhere outside that quarter-mile circle and they could look forever and find nothing.
I don't buy the idea that remains from 65 million years ago would be any more evident. Metal corrodes in that time, and any that didn't, gold, perhaps, would be explained away as human artifacts. Even stone that old, unless buried, would weather to dust. The Quatarra Depression, for example, is only 20 million years old, and was created wholly through weathering. All of what we consider as the main mountain ranges, Alps, Himalayas, Rockies, Andes, began at the time of the dinosaur extinction.
The plains the dinosaurs walked upon were ground flat or folded and uplifted, and if it wasn't buried where it could fossilize, (an exceedingly rare occurrence,) it was weathered into oblivion. The very best chance we'd have to find remains that old would be in space, perhaps where asteroid mining took place or attempts to colonize other bodies in the Solar System were made.
On the other hand, if the Preservers saw an asteroid impact coming, picked the most likely species to develop intelligence, and transplanted them, (much as we might try to transplant the Mountain Gorillas if their mountain was about to go all Krakatoa on them,) then the chance of finding evidence they were intelligent would be nil because their development of intelligence would have happened after transplanting rather than before. In this case, Doctrine might be absolutely correct in that the Voth evolved where they were in the Delta Quadrant rather than on Earth.
Even our greatest works won't survive on a scale of millions of years. The Sphinx is somewhere around 5000 years old, and if it hadn't being constantly restored and refurbished over that time it would be gone already, little more than a limestone bump on the Giza plateau. Our concrete and glass cities? The old Roman constructions stand a better chance than modern concrete, which is good for a century or until enough moisture permeates to the iron reinforcing to allow rust to swell and splinter the concrete. 65 million years from now New York will have been ground to nothing by the Atlantic and New Orleans will have been swallowed by the meanderings of the Mississippi River and the ever-spreading Mississippi Embayment. And we already know what happens to the West Coast. It's on Lex Luthor's map.
I'm also a little salty the Devore didn't make the cut in Delta Rising(despite there being the devore sector). Expanding the map might be another chance to include whatever refugees managed to escape the Vaadwaur.
That said, I'm not going to hold my breath. Now that STO is in full 'Discovery Mode', the most that I hope for is that we'll see the T6 Bastion/Palisade added to the Infinity Box at some point next year...
What I would love to see is the developers add a small amount of the Galaxy that has not been explored before. Make the missions where those that just want to fight have that option, while others have a diplomatic option with new races.
Each player gets to choose how they want to play the missions. And they can even add another rep system for exploration if they want to. Not to mention the different types of missions they can add to the queues. Some can be diplomatic, while others are war like.
This will be a chance for the developers to touch on the very heart of what Starfleet was built for. The very heart of Star Trek. So far, if I want to play a game with actual exploration, I have to play something other than Star Trek.
Don't get me wrong. It is fun popping ships in space. But I just think a game that everything needs to be scripted to do something, can offer more than showing only the violent side of Star Trek.
Still waiting for a sandbox version of a true Star Trek game.
Razar.
For sure, I just really like the concept and ship design of the Devore. I imagine an empire of telepath hunters would have been a prime target for the Bluegills/Vaadwaur, so I can understand why they would have been wiped out(especially considering the Vaadwaur re-emerged in the middle of their territory). However, if the whole Krenim/Zahl arc is ingame, I can't see why some members of the Devore couldn't have managed to stick around. I'm sure people would enjoy being able to get their distinctive ships from lockboxes(they're like a LaFerrari and TVR Sagaris had a love child and covered it in obsidian snakeskin).
There's also the presumably challenging Fen Domar that Voyager would have run into if it had continued the long way home. I think they were technically located in Beta Quadrant, but who knows how far their influence spread across the border.
In Alpha Quadrant the Selay and Anticans have yet to make a proper appearance in STO. Come to think of it, the Bynar are absent as well(although the Lukari do remind me of them, visually speaking). It's probably questionable whether any of them are a 'significant' power though.
I don't think STO has ever really delved into the First Federation either(outside of putting Fesarius on the map), which seems like a pretty ripe opportunity(a missed one, considering they would probably have history with the Hur'q).
I digress though, this is starting to get really off topic.