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  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    In-game Calendar says it Starts 11 AM on 15 November, and Ends at 1PM on 6 December. In Reality it 'may' start on time, 50/50. End will most likely be 3 hours BEFORE the scheduled 'End'.
    reyan01 wrote: »
    sarvour0 wrote: »
    One of the issues I have with DSC, and now AoD, is the worst name for a space battle EVER.
    Binary Star Systems are more numerous than either single-star or trinary star systems.
    Astronomers are busy cataloguing new stars as they are discovered, most of which have at least a placeholder designation based on when, where and/or how it was found. The Binary Star System that was the backdrop of the battle in the DSC pilot, would have likely had one or two designations by Federation scientists, at the minimum.
    That the writers did not make up a name, or pick one from the constantly growing catalog of discovered binary pairs, is lazy and stupid in the extreme. The worst kind of bad writing, IMHO, is people writing about a thing as if they know what they are talking about, but it is painfully clear that they don't.

    /end rant.
    Well, it was described as being six light years from Gamma Hydra and at the most remote border of Federation space. In fact the Klingons considered it to be "too close" to their border.

    With all due respect, a description of a location is not the same thing as a Proper Name for a place. At least, it has not been the case for some time, as there are places on Earth, that were named in that fashion, by people with little to no education ( or maybe just no imagination). And these are exceptions to naming conventions. As I stated, simply calling the location "Binary Stars" instead of at least the kind of placeholder designation actual astronomers use is stupid. If some kind of space rednecks lived there and called the place that as it's what their ancestors named it, it would be slightly less stupid; it would at least be plausible.

    The showrunner (? or writer?) wanted something catchy like "Battle of Bunker Hill" and blundered hard.
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  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    Regarding the event, making my list and checking it twice...
    Note: when I made my multiple accounts, events like this and the seasonals were not yet a thing. I had no idea what i'd be in for...
    By the time I am done patching, or shortly thereafter, I should know which chars i'll run the event with! Have fun everyone!
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    PS - I fully support a T6 Nova, fixing the Nova skins. I am also rooting for a T6 Science Cruiser, that can use Nova/Rhode Island skins.
    T6 Nova/Rhode Island, T6 Oberth & T6 Constellation are needed. Also needed a T6 Science Cruiser, that can wear any Science or Cruiser skin.
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 4,706 Arc User
    I ran it once and that seems like enough for me. It's simply wave after wave of enemies, which pretty much makes it similar to most of the other content in the game. The special console isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,105 Arc User
    Disables the jem heavy attack craft summon, no reason given.

    Spawning in hangar pets is also disabled during the briefing timer, unlike every other space based TFO. The timer is also out of sync with when the player can move their ship.

    Unskippable cutscenes retract from replayability. Whoever it is that insists on having them needs slapped hard.
  • solidshark214solidshark214 Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    Personal verdict? I'd really, really like a map that doesn't have so much going on that the lag repeatedly causes the system to ignore my commands to activate healing powers. Getting a bit tired of swarming enemies, too; annoying as it was, it made sense with the Hur'q, but not so much with Klingons.

    It grows ever more frustrating to have my Vengeance-class dreadnought repeatedly obliterated by dozens of torpedo hits from every direction with no chance to heal between the sheer numbers and the lag.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 2,988 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    Every time I hear T'Kuvma's speech at the end of the STF, I replay this quote from an actually good villain:

    "You are in a position to demand NOTHING. I, on the other hand, am in a position to GRANT nothing."

    I mean, come on, I know it's supposed to follow the events, but his fleet is always getting TRASHED. BADLY! The optional objectives are even here to humiliate him even further.

    It's pretty comical, I'd say. As comical as having my gigantic Valkis turned into a sluggish tiny DSC Miranda. XD
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  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    Whelp. The patch was faster than expected; one good sign. I will be seeing how much the TFO does/doesn't suck shortly.
    *fingers crossed*
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    PS - I fully support a T6 Nova, fixing the Nova skins. I am also rooting for a T6 Science Cruiser, that can use Nova/Rhode Island skins.
    T6 Nova/Rhode Island, T6 Oberth & T6 Constellation are needed. Also needed a T6 Science Cruiser, that can wear any Science or Cruiser skin.
  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    Is it me, or because it's a holodeck simulation the XP rewards are lousy? I had hoped this event would be good for starship masteries, but no such luck.

    EDIT: looks like XP is only earned during the last part of the mission with the optional "kill 20/40/60 ships".
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  • terranempire#7881 terranempire Member Posts: 871 Arc User
    > @saurializard said:
    > Every time I hear T'Kuvma's speech at the end of the STF, I replay this quote from an actually good villain:
    >
    > "You are in a position to demand NOTHING. I, on the other hand, am in a position to GRANT nothing."
    >
    > I mean, come on, I know it's supposed to follow the events, but his fleet is always getting TRASHED. BADLY! The optional objectives are even here to humiliate him even further.
    >
    > It's pretty comical, I'd say. As comical as having my gigantic Valkis turned into a sluggish tiny DSC Miranda. XD

    Hehehe... 😂🤣 Silly T'Kuvma.
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  • thunderfoot006thunderfoot006 Member Posts: 4,063 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    Just played this. Same stuff. Different day. It is just like Mirror Invasion. HEAVILY Timegated. Enemies which can only swarm and die by the hundreds. I spent most of the TFO so severely lagged, I might as well have played this on an Etch-A-Sketch.

    At least then the frame rate would have been higher.

    Disappointing for content which was announced as the way the game would go from now. Great idea crippled by slapdash execution.

    Won't be bothering with this again. There are less irritating ways for my chars to earn 50K of Dil.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    Probably the one event from this game which I don't even care to do.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 8,194 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    So did I read the Announcement Blog correctly and you get the three Featured TFO Reward selection boxes after you complete the 14 day and not on a Weekly basis as they used to do with Featured Episodes?

    Probably makes sense as they could never get that once a week Featured Reward down - reset on Thursday, or after seven days, or etc.

    This TFO reminded me of something Captain Ron Tracey said in 'The Omega Glory':

    'They sacrificed hundreds, just to draw us out in the open. And then they came, and they came... and they still came. We killed thousands and they still came.'
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    I think 2 TFO's should have been released one for the feds and one for the KDF whats the point in fighting a historic battle when you can't play both sides of the story.
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  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    MAJOR PROBLEM: Event Reputation Window is only showing a SINGLE COLUMN of slotted Projects. I have to go throw all my alts on the account to see who had what, and what progression they had before Cancelling the Project for the Breen Plesh Tral Heavy Raider [T6] (Winter 2017) and HOPE I didn't have another Project slotted behind it to start the FTFO Event Project.
    I am now a day behind, and there's a Holiday (US) coming up, which will make things even more difficult, as I won't have internet access 24/7 on/near that day.

    The FTFO itself is not the problem; I liked it just fine. The ONE COLUMN ONLY FORMAT for Rep Window is a BIG FAT PROBLEM.
    FIX IT.

    Events, meant for All Players to be able to play, should be just that. Breaking the Event/Rep interface does not help; it creates logistical nightmares.
    FIX IT.
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    "There Ain't No Grave, Can Hold My Body Down..."

    PS - I fully support a T6 Nova, fixing the Nova skins. I am also rooting for a T6 Science Cruiser, that can use Nova/Rhode Island skins.
    T6 Nova/Rhode Island, T6 Oberth & T6 Constellation are needed. Also needed a T6 Science Cruiser, that can wear any Science or Cruiser skin.
  • kurziskurzis Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    for some reason the klingon ships in this one feel weaker than the ships in defence of starbase one.
  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    kurzis wrote: »
    for some reason the klingon ships in this one feel weaker than the ships in defence of starbase one.

    Buffet of Houses vs. the most brutal/badass House, lol.
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    U.S.S. AKAGI NX-93347, Enterprise-class Battle Cruiser =A= U.S.S. T'KORA'S WRATH NX-110047, Odyssey-class Battle Cruiser

    "There Ain't No Grave, Can Hold My Body Down..."

    PS - I fully support a T6 Nova, fixing the Nova skins. I am also rooting for a T6 Science Cruiser, that can use Nova/Rhode Island skins.
    T6 Nova/Rhode Island, T6 Oberth & T6 Constellation are needed. Also needed a T6 Science Cruiser, that can wear any Science or Cruiser skin.
  • herrgis#1415 herrgis Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Forced Cosmetics, a disaster of Biblical proportions!!! It is hundred times better having your own ship, you know the one that ends up with forty icons of buffs on it, than getting forced into a ship that has somebody else's equipment, tray, etc. that you have to use.


    How soon we forget the lessons offered by Chicken Little/Henny Penny. There is no value for the STO Community Forums in spreading misinformation to stir up hate for an idea.

    Cryptic said nothing about changing your buffs and equipment. Open up to new ideas/things and at least TRY them before you unleash Biblical disasters (tm); there are only so many of them to go around.

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  • patrickngopatrickngo Member Posts: 9,754 Arc User
    robeasom wrote: »
    I think 2 TFO's should have been released one for the feds and one for the KDF whats the point in fighting a historic battle when you can't play both sides of the story.

    Because...the Klingon 'side' is irrelevant in much the way that the KDF player faction is irrelevant. the only side that has any relevance, the only perspective that holds even the slightest importance, is that of Federation/Starfleet. Fedside is the only "Player" in the game in terms of storyline, plotting, or mission design. When you main KDF, you're just cosplaying as a bit player in Starfleet's grand story, you're putting on the "M" tabard so you can die like a redshirt for the glory of the real players.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 8,194 Arc User
    > @herrgis#1415 said:
    > ltminns wrote: »
    >
    > How soon we forget the lessons offered by Chicken Little/Henny Penny. There is no value for the STO Community Forums in spreading misinformation to stir up hate for an idea.
    >
    > Cryptic said nothing about changing your buffs and equipment. Open up to new ideas/things and at least TRY them before you unleash Biblical disasters (tm); there are only so many of them to go around.

    You've seemed to completely mistaken what I sarcastically said. I was referring to the crowd that was all up in arms about the change in the cosmetic look of their precious little ship. Stated that it was nothing in any order of magnitude to that of having to fly a ship where everything, including your tray setup was different than what you fly ala 'Sphere of Influence' or 'Step Between the Stars'.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,137 Arc User
    robeasom wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Oi vey... people complaining about looking like an era appropriate ship...

    Different universe ship not era. ;)

    Except it's the same universe. The only thing that's really different is the visual aesthetics.

    Which is why it's a different universe I don't care what CBS is, this is a different universe and I will do this only to see the discovery ship blow up multiple times

    This is definitely a different universe.

    The guy who cancelled Enterprise (just as they were starting to get better) gave us Discovery.
    The guy that also gave us TNG,
    sarvour0 wrote: »
    MAJOR PROBLEM: Event Reputation Window is only showing a SINGLE COLUMN of slotted Projects. I have to go throw all my alts on the account to see who had what, and what progression they had before Cancelling the Project for the Breen Plesh Tral Heavy Raider [T6] (Winter 2017) and HOPE I didn't have another Project slotted behind it to start the FTFO Event Project.
    I am now a day behind, and there's a Holiday (US) coming up, which will make things even more difficult, as I won't have internet access 24/7 on/near that day.

    The FTFO itself is not the problem; I liked it just fine. The ONE COLUMN ONLY FORMAT for Rep Window is a BIG FAT PROBLEM.
    FIX IT.

    Events, meant for All Players to be able to play, should be just that. Breaking the Event/Rep interface does not help; it creates logistical nightmares.
    FIX IT.

    With the UI changes in the introduction of the Tier 6 Reputations, you can no longer "pre-slot" any projects to be queued automatically after the active one is completed. AFAIK, any pre-slotted projects you had are gone, but if not, you can't make new ones, so the issue is at best transitory.
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  • patrickngopatrickngo Member Posts: 9,754 Arc User
    robeasom wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Oi vey... people complaining about looking like an era appropriate ship...

    Different universe ship not era. ;)

    Except it's the same universe. The only thing that's really different is the visual aesthetics.

    Which is why it's a different universe I don't care what CBS is, this is a different universe and I will do this only to see the discovery ship blow up multiple times

    This is definitely a different universe.

    The guy who cancelled Enterprise (just as they were starting to get better) gave us Discovery.
    The guy that also gave us TNG,

    Um...no. Les Moonves had nothing to do with TNG, or DS9, or Voyager, or any of the movies. Gene Roddenberry gave us TNG, and created the original IP, but he was dead-in-the-ground 20 years before Discovery was rolled out, and had nothing to do with it beyond orginating the property CBS looted to make their little web-show.
  • lordbeefy7lordbeefy7 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    I really don't understand so much hate.

    Its free stuff to fly your ship around shooting a load of bad guys. That's pretty much in line with the majority of the content so if you don't want it, don't do it. But good luck finding a mission that doesn't involve shooting stuff. You can achieve the goal running it once per day. its not difficult. As far as the cosmetic effect of flying a different ship, wth, it doesn't matter for one battle for goodness sake.

    I really don't understand the winers!
  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 932 Arc User
    As entertaining as this exercise is, I would present some food for thought: the rationale is to acquaint us with 23c Klingon tactics. Which are interesting and all, but J'Ula, from everything I've read/seen about her, is far from stupid - she's lying low for now, gathering allies and information, right? And surely among that latter is the fact of 23c Klingon tactics being well-known... so it stands to reason she'd be hitting the books hard with respect to current-day doctrines.

    And as amusing as it would be to hear, I somehow doubt she'll borrow a certain classic quote to refer to rumors of House Mo'kai's demise.
  • sarvour0sarvour0 Member Posts: 377 Arc User
    As entertaining as this exercise is, I would present some food for thought: the rationale is to acquaint us with 23c Klingon tactics. Which are interesting and all, but J'Ula, from everything I've read/seen about her, is far from stupid - she's lying low for now, gathering allies and information, right? And surely among that latter is the fact of 23c Klingon tactics being well-known... so it stands to reason she'd be hitting the books hard with respect to current-day doctrines.

    And as amusing as it would be to hear, I somehow doubt she'll borrow a certain classic quote to refer to rumors of House Mo'kai's demise.

    It's a game. You expecting Shakespeare? LOL, but kinda valid/at least semi-valid point on tactics, which no doubt a a class or two at the Academy covering that very subject.

    And seriously whiners, having a childish hissy fit over your ship getting to have a little Halloween for One Battle? Really?
    *shakes head*
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    PS - I fully support a T6 Nova, fixing the Nova skins. I am also rooting for a T6 Science Cruiser, that can use Nova/Rhode Island skins.
    T6 Nova/Rhode Island, T6 Oberth & T6 Constellation are needed. Also needed a T6 Science Cruiser, that can wear any Science or Cruiser skin.
  • shadowfirefly00shadowfirefly00 Member Posts: 932 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    sarvour0 wrote: »
    It's a game. You expecting Shakespeare?
    If I recall right, General Chang did quote the Bard at one point. But, getting back on track...
    LOL, but kinda valid/at least semi-valid point on tactics, which no doubt a a class or two at the Academy covering that very subject.
    Well, you inspired me to think some more about it... and it occurs to me that the point of being reacquainted with 23c Klingon tactics is not because we're expecting J'Ula to stick with them... but to get inside her head. Yes, we know she'll take the time to study and adapt to current tactics - so it'd be wise on our part to at least get some idea of how she would try and accomplish the latter, given her starting point.
    And seriously whiners, having a childish hissy fit over your ship getting to have a little Halloween for One Battle? Really?
    *shakes head*
    This, I have no problem with. It shows up in a couple of other missions, and I don't recall folks complaining on those occasions. What is noteworthy about this instance is that it's the only TFO which actually shows it; the others ('Days of Doom' and 'Miner Incursions') just mention that the mechanic is in play. Which still doesn't make it a problem.
  • furiontassadarfuriontassadar Member Posts: 475 Arc User
    It was in one of those short stories they do for Star Trek magazine every now and then. It was called "Black Mirror", and basically the Emperor secretly contacts Mirror Shon and has him kill Leeta for her repeated failures, and gives the Enterprise to him as a reward.

    Wait, what??

    And here, I had been warming up to the idea of Mirror Leeta showing back up to be a nuisance every now and then, like STO's version of Team Rocket. :/

    And to hide it in a short story in some magazine that clearly not all of us read...why in the hell would that not have put something like that in one of the story blogs actually here on the forums??

    I know it seems like such a small thing to get upset over, but the fact that they just quietly brushed a loose story thread under the carpet like that gives me a slight sense of foreboding. Between the launch of the recent expansion and the preview of what they are working on, I was already worried that they were angling to slowly transform STO into TRIBBLE : Online, full time. Having them quietly go around removing any possibly story hooks for the modern, non- TRIBBLE timeline doesn't do much to alleviate that concern.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 5,866 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    It's a freakin' ZOO in there!!! LOL! Fun, but silly!!! LOL!
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,137 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    robeasom wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Oi vey... people complaining about looking like an era appropriate ship...

    Different universe ship not era. ;)

    Except it's the same universe. The only thing that's really different is the visual aesthetics.

    Which is why it's a different universe I don't care what CBS is, this is a different universe and I will do this only to see the discovery ship blow up multiple times

    This is definitely a different universe.

    The guy who cancelled Enterprise (just as they were starting to get better) gave us Discovery.
    The guy that also gave us TNG,

    Um...no. Les Moonves had nothing to do with TNG, or DS9, or Voyager, or any of the movies. Gene Roddenberry gave us TNG, and created the original IP, but he was dead-in-the-ground 20 years before Discovery was rolled out, and had nothing to do with it beyond orginating the property CBS looted to make their little web-show.

    Yes, I actually wanted to delete that post because I looked up since when Moonves was in his position at CBS, and it seems he came later than most Trek series, at least into the positions where his influence was relevant. I think, at least, because I really don't understand what the different job titles he held at CBS really mean.

    Unfortunately, the forum has the habit of remembering half-finished posts, and when I quoted someone for a different reply, apparently the drafted part from the previous attempt was restored, too, and I didn't notice. Funny how the Edit Monster loves to delete your posts, but drafts of ill-conceived posts stay around forever.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 5,866 Arc User
    edited November 2018
    Why can't my character use Battle Cloak when it is in a holograph ship?
    It is still one of my "powers" in the tray.

    I will have to check tomorrow how much "my ship" changes when I lose my cloaking ability.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 2,988 Arc User
    Funny thing: My first try with the STF was my ship turned into the USS Kerala and I ended up accidentally doing the almost exact same shot and action it does in the episode, where the Shenzhou takes evasive action and the Kerala enters the fray and draws aggro.
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