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TFO/Queue Penalties- the punishment on those trying to still complete the mission.
scrappyjwg
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i am writing this as i've had this frustrating situation multiple times now. playing a Queue or TFO and the team not playing the mission etc , while you are still trying to play the TFO and mission to get it done. team members leave making the relevant TFO you are playing impossible to do either on your own or only with one or two players.
YET if you still leave you still get punished with the cool down. THIS is unfair on the player and should be fixed.
if enough players quit a team or TFO the rest should be able to leave WITHOUT PENALTY.
why should i be punished for being unable to complete and impossible TFO because too many players have left
YET if you still leave you still get punished with the cool down. THIS is unfair on the player and should be fixed.
if enough players quit a team or TFO the rest should be able to leave WITHOUT PENALTY.
why should i be punished for being unable to complete and impossible TFO because too many players have left
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> My solution, I don't leave.
What if you’re that least one in? Or half leave and there’s two left with an impossible task at hand?
I’ve been in a few where it became impossible to finish in a sensible time due to how the mission played out and people leaving the team. Dranuur Gauntlet was one when we can spawn camped by a fleet of Voth so couldn’t even move off before getting vaped.
Same thing has happened in a HSA that went pear shaped.
How long of time was "a bit"???
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
Same happened to me, I just waited and it completed.
Good to know it can still work out if it seems to bug out.
The problem is, these players are using an exploit to get around the leaver penalty by logging out of that character, however I do believe Cryptic is looking into this specific issue.
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Yeah. I feel, instead of actually fixing it, what they really did was just add a crude failsafe mechanism/timer, for when it bugs out. I'd had that occur to me several times too.
N.B. Good things come to those who wait.
This has been addressed. I can confirm that I swapped characters whilst in a very poor PUG that was going nowhere and the character I changed to had a leaver penalty
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
My character Tsin'xing
But it's of course your choice if you'd rather eat a leaver penalty than wait for your inevitably scheduled victory.
DON'T PUG! Excuse me, DON"T RANDOM TFO!
I have failed twice, both times when i beamed in/warped into a queue with multiple people who left.
My long-winded point being: RTFO's don't queue you for 'about even' queues at all: sometimes they're super-easy, and, at other times, way too hard, especially what with folks leaving mid-queue. So, instead of normalizing all missions (which they'll never do), I feel it's best, and fairest, to just remove leaver penalties from RTFO's altogether.
A part of me wouldn't mind if they removed the penalties. But, if they removed the penalty altogether, I'd never do another ground queue. If I got in one while doing random, I'd simply leave and try again. Another ground? Leave, try again. Ad nauseam.
(Okay, I would stick around for Miner Instabilities and maybe Bug Hunt, since I like those. Maybe Colony Invasion, I think that's the name for it. But any of those old style Borg ground queues? I've failed every single one of those. Though technically since they are untimed you can't fail, it can just become a futile effort with only 3 players. Especially when none of the players, myself included, have no idea what to do or the DPS to do it.)
Anyway, I think you get my point.
I don't think they'll ever completely remove the penalties, it'd just be abused far too much.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Add a Space/Ground option to the silly RTFO. Lets all be honest 90% of this issue is solved by not forcing some players into ground maps. There are days where I'll do a bunch of RTFOs and see nothing but space... and things go smooth even getting stuck on some of the longer maps. A handful are annoying sure but as long as you don't sweat the optionals most are all possible to complete even with groups that have never seen said que. Ground on the other hand... ya ya its easy I know, but the truth is a bunch of ground maps require actual team work to complete (not just get optionals) which sad or not is asking a little to much of randomly joined people. Some ground maps like Minor Instabilities, does get qued cause it has good rewards and is a bit of a challenge if you enjoy ground... but it does require at least a passably decent ground build if you don't want to respawn 10+ times.
What we have here is a bunch of players exploiting the system by queueing for the random and then leaving if they don't get what they want. This is violating the rules of the format which say you don't get to choose the map.
I believe RTFOs should have stricter leaver penalties. Anyone who leaves one should forfeit the extra reward box the next time they run one. And leaving multiple times should be counted and forfeit an equal number of rewards.
People who don't actually let the game choose for them, don't deserve to get a reward for letting the game choose for them.