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  • zateron#9297 zateron Member Posts: 92 Arc User

    Show us what you got!

    I really do not mean to be rude, disrespectful, and I am desperately trying to be as patient as possible having waited all year, and waiting more with no hint of when this wait will end.

    Meanwhile on FB the staff (while we wait for this no end in sight Summer Event delay) they're busy posting images of staff opening their 3d printed ships, with no details about summer event.
    What would anyone think about this from an objective standpoint? Posting no info during delay for the many waiting all year long, while posting images of themselves with their toys?

    Seriously, what would anyone think of this?

  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    What would anyone think about this from an objective standpoint?

    That the summer event is coming at an as yet unannounced date though within a timeframe circumscribed within "Soon." It's when you get subjective that you can take offense at not being given a more direct and personalized answer.
    Love how they post teasers, they then quote themselves, "we don't talk about upcoming content", then when they do talk about upcoming content it gets to be a one-sided conversation without player-based input nor properly clear up what their upcoming content is before posting a blog on the issue.

    Guys, the reason why devs don't talk about upcoming content freely is that development is not a certain process (as with all complex projects.) That includes even the most general details about what's coming and when (see. ViL's cut progression system, the latinum store update). Cryptic does not want to disappoint people by announcing content early only to change plans unexpectedly, push dates, or cut content entirely as development proceeds, plans are realized, and projects either meet target or don't. We have been through a couple demonstrations very recently of how pre-emptive information can upset the community and cause greater angst than a minor delay. See. Cardassian uniforms, when those will be coming, and T5-U tokens at level 61. What remains that they can talk about are details so firmly set (by nature of the project or by being done) that only a total catastrophe would change things (ex. plot, character, setting.)

    Now of course you may ask "well, what about the Summer event precludes a more specific answer to our questions than 'soon?'" But that requires talking about what they can't talk about. So what do we do? Nothing. If this is becoming an issue for anyone then I would seriously recommend finding something else to occupy yourself for the while (and stop focusing on not being given the answer you'd like, or at the very least from whom you'd like it.) Start a new character, work on one you've set aside, try out the Foundry, dig into community podcasts; anything would be more constructive than trying to argue Cryptic's PR strategy on the basis of denial-ergo-frustration.

    The summer event is coming soon and it'll be officially announced when Cryptic's ready to do so (ie. ~1 week before "soon") to ensure that the maximum benefit can be had (information distribution, cultivation of excitement), as optimized against the minimization of risk (ie. "pulling a Peter Molyneaux.") That's basic to effective video game PR.
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  • kronin#4685 kronin Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    Actually, I am hoping the event ship is a Vorgon cruiser. I would like to make a decent tetryon beam build out of it. I also hope the summer event starts before mid July. A summer event that runs into September would seem kind of silly. In my neighborhood, summer unofficially starts on Memorial day. That's when all the summer seasonal things start. But, that's a moot point, given that summer officially started yesterday. It would be nice if the devs at least put the date on the in game calendar, as they have done in previous years.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    I made a great tetryon beam build out of the Xyfius and the Ryn'kodan.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    I have a fedsci who uses tetryon and while I like the tetryon bonus from the current vorgon set I don't use eng or tac ships on that fedsci, and I am hoping to get the Vorgon Cruiser with the expectation that it will be a sci ship.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    I have a fedsci using the Ryn'kodan and he tears stuff up with it. He also uses the Eternal and tears stuff up with it too.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • kronin#4685 kronin Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    @echatty
    I'm guessing you're a much better player than me. I don't do well with escorts. I'm learning sci ships, but cruisers are my thing. The Ryn'kodan doesn't work so well for me. It's the lack of turn rate and lack of firepower (six weapons). Still, I'd be interested in hearing about what you put on your tetryon builds.
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    :heartbreak::cry::scream:@zateron#9297 I may have to hit Risa to get a "fix" with one of my toons over the weekend....are you still hanging out over there? I do have to get Priscilla some flowers for her ponytail. ::::giggles:::::

    (I have to do my bills, first, though. LOL!)
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    Honestly I would like Risian boffs and captains. I have little to no interest in the Summer Event otherwise, given its likely a another Vorgon ship.
  • zateron#9297 zateron Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    :heartbreak::cry::scream:@zateron#9297 I may have to hit Risa to get a "fix" with one of my toons over the weekend....are you still hanging out over there? I do have to get Priscilla some flowers for her ponytail. ::::giggles:::::

    (I have to do my bills, first, though. LOL!)

    I believe I've said all I have to say about the delay, so no more for me on that.
    Yes, I still hang out there sometimes when resetting duty officer assignments. There's a wacky crowd that hangs there.
    Your Jem is probably the cutest of all . :D

  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I believe I've said all I have to say about the delay, so no more for me on that.
    Yes, I still hang out there sometimes when resetting duty officer assignments. There's a wacky crowd that hangs there.
    Your Jem is probably the cutest of all . :D

    I am hoping they have purple rash guards for Jem'Hadar this year. :) I shall have to pick up a purple floater.
    I hope they have special "Purple Power" Superior Powerboard, too. Gonna spend some Lohlunat Favors on her. LOL!

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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »

    I am hoping they have purple rash guards for Jem'Hadar this year. :) I shall have to pick up a purple floater.
    I hope they have special "Purple Power" Superior Powerboard, too. Gonna spend some Lohlunat Favors on her. LOL!

    Even if they go with another type of new swimwear this year, rash guards are customizable. ;)
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Even if they go with another type of new swimwear this year, rash guards are customizable. ;)

    Kewl! :) She won't look female without outrageous color on her. LOL!
    I am pretty sure there won't be anything looking like a one-piece bathing suit.

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  • anyajenkinsanyajenkins Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    Please a latinumless T6 D'kora, after all this ferengi themed stuffs in ds9 lockboxes it will be the the icing on the cake !

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  • mattachinemattachine Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    First I would like to commend the graphical artists that made the Jem'Hadar skin material. It looks awesome. Totally rocking the crocodile pattern. But how come there are no shirtless options on Risa? I can't find any. And how come the legs and arms vanishes on some options?

    This needs to be fixed. Hopefully before the start of the summer event.
    Even if it means delaying the summer event to August and have it run to the end of September.

    We desperately need a shirtless option.

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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    @echatty
    I'm guessing you're a much better player than me. I don't do well with escorts. I'm learning sci ships, but cruisers are my thing. The Ryn'kodan doesn't work so well for me. It's the lack of turn rate and lack of firepower (six weapons). Still, I'd be interested in hearing about what you put on your tetryon builds.

    Eh, I'm an average player and I don't shoot for the high deeps. Most of my toons stay around the 10k range, but that's enough to do what I want to do. I usually clear out the Rom patrols in under five minutes each (with the exception of maybe Beta Lankal and Galorndon Core. I don't even have all his gear maxed.

    This is basically what he has:

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    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Awww....no Swimsuits are available in the Risa Vendor for Jem'Hadar, yet.
    No vendor at the Power Board vendor, either.

    So...I guess, we have to wait for the Event. Got the Purple Floater for her, though.

    And I got her one of these Sand Castle things, clicking builds a sand castle right where you are standing:
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    Oh wait....I can procure that Future Flier thing....(just where the heck was that in the game???)
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    Future Flier hoverboard is in the Promotions Tab.
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Thanks, Badd...I found it. :)

    BTW....those heading to Risa with Jem'Hadars....have a pile of Ketracel-white with you.
    They still need them there. They do look funny when they look woozy when they are on a floater. LOL!
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Thanks, Badd...I found it. :)

    BTW....those heading to Risa with Jem'Hadars....have a pile of Ketracel-white with you.
    They still need them there. They do look funny when they look woozy when they are on a floater. LOL!

    LOL, that's why my second Jemmie character looks like he's drunk! I think I've been forgetting to use White on him! That's hilarious!
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  • zateron#9297 zateron Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    mattachine wrote: »
    But how come there are no shirtless options on Risa? I can't find any. And how come the legs and arms vanishes on some options?

    This needs to be fixed. Hopefully before the start of the summer event.
    Even if it means delaying the summer event to August and have it run to the end of September.

    We desperately need a shirtless option.

    qWc2cos.png

    Wouldn't Jems being bare chested be sacrilegious for a warrior race bred for the sole purpose of serving the changlinks?


  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    Wouldn't Jems being bare chested be sacrilegious for a warrior race bred for the sole purpose of serving the changelings?

    No, dance for your gods.


    :P
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  • zateron#9297 zateron Member Posts: 92 Arc User

    No, dance for your gods.

    :P

    Just curious you know ;)
    Well dancing, and being bare chest is kind of different. I mean I thought there was some sort of strict religious warrior code, like a knight without his armor exposing himself to possible harm.

  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    djf021 wrote: »
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Thanks, Badd...I found it. :)

    BTW....those heading to Risa with Jem'Hadars....have a pile of Ketracel-white with you.
    They still need them there. They do look funny when they look woozy when they are on a floater. LOL!

    LOL, that's why my second Jemmie character looks like he's drunk! I think I've been forgetting to use White on him! That's hilarious!

    Hey do you have a Fed Aligned Jem'Hadar? Do you see any swimsuits in the Risa Vendor? Because I am not seeing any on my KDF Aligned one.

    I assume: I have to wait for the new store to go on line with the Summer Event.
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Just curious you know ;)
    Well dancing, and being bare chest is kind of different. I mean I thought there was some sort of strict religious warrior code, like a knight without his armor exposing himself to possible harm.

    To be serious for a moment, I don't think we've heard any such tradition extant in the Dominion. Not all warriors in world history exercise strict taboos against partial nudity, particularly in ceremonial functions outside of combat (quite the contrary. Ex. Spartans.)
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  • zateron#9297 zateron Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    Just curious you know ;)
    Well dancing, and being bare chest is kind of different. I mean I thought there was some sort of strict religious warrior code, like a knight without his armor exposing himself to possible harm.

    To be serious for a moment, I don't think we've heard any such tradition extant in the Dominion. Not all warriors in world history exercise strict taboos against partial nudity, particularly in ceremonial functions outside of combat (quite the contrary. Ex. Spartans.)

    Well, I just saw a bare chested Jem'Hadar on Risa, just now so....moot point now. Whomever complained, needs to check their settings. There are bare chested Jems already.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Well, I just saw a bare chested Jem'Hadar on Risa, just now so....moot point now. Whomever complained, needs to check their settings. There are bare chested Jems already.

    They may not have unlocked a swim suit that allows for a bare chested option (pretty much any, I think.)
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    Wouldn't I be able to at least SEE the old swimsuits?
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  • kronin#4685 kronin Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    @echatty
    I'm guessing you're a much better player than me. I don't do well with escorts. I'm learning sci ships, but cruisers are my thing. The Ryn'kodan doesn't work so well for me. It's the lack of turn rate and lack of firepower (six weapons). Still, I'd be interested in hearing about what you put on your tetryon builds.

    Eh, I'm an average player and I don't shoot for the high deeps. Most of my toons stay around the 10k range, but that's enough to do what I want to do. I usually clear out the Rom patrols in under five minutes each (with the exception of maybe Beta Lankal and Galorndon Core. I don't even have all his gear maxed.

    This is basically what he has:

    fe4S5yw.jpg
    Ok, I recognize the Nukara set, and the Butterfly set. What is the space set? Is it a 4 piece? If not, what's the warp core?
    I recognize the Crystaline console that boosts antiproton. I'm sure if I looked up what else it does, I could figure out what it does for your build. Obviously you have a second tetryon dual beam bank, but what is the torpedo? I recognize three of the devices. What's that red one? What are the rest of the consoles? Too bad I can't hover my mouse over them and just see. Not that I tried that, or anything. Anyhow, thanks for posting.

  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    where2r1 wrote: »
    Wouldn't I be able to at least SEE the old swimsuits?

    Only through what's available at the summer store if you have that unlocked from last year. When you're looking at the tailor the only item previews you'll have are for the c-store (not lobi, fleet, reputation, event gear, or mission reward items. ;))

    If this is your first time, here's the list of summer fashions and other themed items, current to last year.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Risian_Vendor
    Once you get access to the summer store at the start of the event, you can hover your cursor above each item to get a good look at the suit on offer. These are all tradable on the exchange too. :)
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