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potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
How about adding these two ships to the list of what we can use our T5 ship tokens on?
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    That would be excellent, but since Cryptic reneged on the free upgrade token for the free level 61 ship I doubt they get that innovative.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Did they take them away from captains that already recieved them?
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    potasssium wrote: »
    Did they take them away from captains that already recieved them?

    The ship choice at level 61 is still free, but yesterday in chat I was reading that Cryptic decided at the last minute, the VIL launch day, to not give an accompanying free Upgrade Token too. I don't know why, but hopefully I'm wrong. Nevertheless, good idea for the T5 Kamarag & Ambassador.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    Oh yeah, upgrade tokens, don’t recall seeing those on my captains.
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  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    token not bound to character probably... make new toon get to 61 get token... rinse repeat. profit!
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    I got one of my Characters to 61 and the log showed that I had received a T5 Retrofit Token. In fact finishing up 8 Admiralty Assignments (and not even a Tour of Duty), that Character went from 60 to 65.
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  • iamjmphiamjmph Member Posts: 211 Arc User
    i picked up the karfi at lvl 62 no free upgrade or token. BUT im a LTS player and i think i could get that anyways, not sure if i can get another ship for free or what....
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    token not bound to character probably... make new toon get to 61 get token... rinse repeat. profit!
    I'm primarily talking about the new ship requisition token, but especially the lack of choices

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,666 Community Moderator
    I wish they did bring back the Kamarag Retrofit.
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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    iamjmph wrote: »
    i picked up the karfi at lvl 62 no free upgrade or token. BUT im a LTS player and i think i could get that anyways, not sure if i can get another ship for free or what....

    If you didn't burn a ship token before to grab the space peanut(Orion Marauder FDC), the B'rel, or the Varanus, yes, you can. LTS players have two tokens. Everyone else has one.
  • w00qw00q Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    Please note that you will lose your ship If you dismiss the ships you've acquired via token at shipyard.

    This ship redemption via token/shipyard system is different from the C-Store system, please note.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,879 Arc User
    It would be nice if they actually made the T5u choices the same as the t5 choices. Romulan science captains have NO t5u Romulan science ships available at all, that means they are forced to fly tac or engineering ships at endgame or make the unpalatable jump to a Federation ship for their T5u.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    The Kamarag was not part of the Labor Day Weekend giveaway, only the Ambassador. Until ViL it was the only T5 that Federation-aligned Romulans could fly.
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  • ussvaliant#6064 ussvaliant Member Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    Id like both of these to get the T6 treatment. Guardian is supposed to be T6 Ambassador but I can't bring myself to fly it as I don't like the Guardian skin. Let me use the Ambassador skin and we have a different story.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    I don't think the Guardian should even be considered a T6 Ambassador due to it's differing console and boff setup.
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I don't think the Guardian should even be considered a T6 Ambassador due to it's differing console and boff setup.

    Agreed, they are not the same ship. Vaguely similar at best. Not the same ship; I don't know why folks keep saying that.
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  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    If Cryptic allowed a mini-event to where players could acquire the T5 Ambassador & Kamarag versions like once a year it wouldn't harm the game & a few players would benefit from it more but all would like their Admiralty probably.

    The free level 61 ships rewarded are the exact same as the T5 free options for LTSers with the same stipulations attached & that's a bit of a redundant shame but still potentially nice if you already don't have them all. As already addressed too these level 61 free ships won't open up the ship for account wide it is just for that character & if discharged not reclaimable.

    The Upgrade Token fiasco has either been totally kiboshed or delayed indefinitely so pretty much with Cryptic's history reneged & tossed under the rug to be forgotten. During the stream it seemed their intent began as generous & true, but there was a hiccup in implementing it & decided it was too much effort that could benefit "free" players the most while only marginally the paying players.

    Cryptic has done bound Upgrade Tokens before & that's what they should do here.
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I don't think the Guardian should even be considered a T6 Ambassador due to it's differing console and boff setup.

    It gained one console slot (Sci), the Lt Tac seat became Universal, and the Lt Eng seat became Eng/Intel hybrid. The only difference between how they handled this and most other T5 to T6 transitions is that they made one seat Universal (You're welcome), and they don't let you use a clunky* one-off ship design that was seen for... one?... episode. (You're welcome.) :|

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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    Id like both of these to get the T6 treatment. Guardian is supposed to be T6 Ambassador but I can't bring myself to fly it as I don't like the Guardian skin. Let me use the Ambassador skin and we have a different story.
    The Guardian is not related to the Ambassador. If it was, it would have it's skin.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    If Cryptic allowed a mini-event to where players could acquire the T5 Ambassador & Kamarag versions like once a year it wouldn't harm the game & a few players would benefit from it more but all would like their Admiralty probably.
    More events always good.
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    nommo#5819 wrote: »
    The free level 61 ships rewarded are the exact same as the T5 free options for LTSers with the same stipulations attached & that's a bit of a redundant shame but still potentially nice if you already don't have them all.

    Which in my opinion is exactly the problem. Coupled with the facts that these ships are also all in Cstore and the Fed ones are possibly the three most popular T5s that exist (due to canon).

    There are many longtime players who receive no benefit from this level-up reward because, due to previous ship purchases, they already had access to ALL of the selectable ships... and this applies also to EVERY LTS player.

    That really smacks of a "new customer only" mentality and I really hope it was an oversight and will be changed. Adding the T5 Amby/Kamarag to the selectable options would be one way to fix it. Another would be adding some sort of alternate selectable reward (like maybe a Gumarre DOFF or a bound fleet ship module? Or even just one key?). Anything.

    I agree, there's nothing wrong with actions like for "new customer" but it shouldn't be "only". Cryptic's history is notoriously littered with being exclusive versus inclusive especially the last couple of years. If Cryptic feels giddy & wants to send out free R&D packs, exp boosts, or even a free ship to free players or players that haven't played for a certain # of months why not too include players that do subscribe, are LTS, & play more consistently? It's only going to generate a more positive response.

    Cryptic should've gave more thought to this generous gesture beyond a copy & paste moment with these level 61 perk ships especially for those LTSers & it shows they didn't by mucking it up on the free Upgrade Token which is easily fixable with a bound Upgrade Token Character or Account. Nowadays in STO T5 ships have a very diminished value anyways yet they cost the same as years ago. Cryptic missed an opportunity with this gesture by not expanding that list of ships offered & the T5 Kamarag and Ambassador would've been shinning examples of that forward thinking or even something like a special bound T5 only Fleet Ship Module(s) to use for a ship.

    It's all about enticing new &/or free players to stick around & grow with STO's community & spend real money too if they want. That can easily be done without neglecting or slighting paying retentive players with minimal effort.

    I must state I understand nothing offered for free has to be of course. Most times something offered for free though isn't about goodwill it is a marketing maneuver to entice money to be spent. Too many get hung up on the whole "free to play" phrase when it is just a business model with more & more gambling.

    Cryptic did a lot right with this VIL, given it's less than previous expansions, & they deserve praise but there are also some Whammies too.
  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    I would add that the Dyson ship be removed from the Lobi store and offered up like the Ambassador ideas. Heck, putting all the ships into the Phoenix Pack wouldn't be so bad either.
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    > @velqua said:
    > I would add that the Dyson ship be removed from the Lobi store and offered up like the Ambassador ideas. Heck, putting all the ships into the Phoenix Pack wouldn't be so bad either.

    Anyone paying Lobi for a Dyson ship is crazy. I mean I have all three base models from the event, plus purchased the Klingon 3pk, and the Romulan Tactical one, as well as upgrading the Romulan one to t5u.

    So getting a single ship from Zen, after converting Dilithium to Zen, when they are on sale not only gets you better ship, but lately T5 ships when a sale has been running include a t5u upgrade token.

    I love the look of the Romulan one, and have no issue with the Klingon one, but the Fed Dyson ship..... just get a Vesta instead.

    So yes put the basic Dyson and for that matter T5 Lobi Obelisk in the Pheonix Box.

    I’d be keen on the old T5 Lobi and Lock Box ships being moved to the Pheonix Box after their T6 updates show up in the Infinity Box and Lobi store update.

    Split them among the top 2 tiers of the Pheonix Box, depending on if the ship was an event ship or Lockbox/Lobi ship when first introduced.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,918 Arc User
    The Lobi Dyson ship is freely upgraded to T5U as well, I have two of them.
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