Play as a Jem'Hadar When Victory is Life Launches!

ambassadorkael

Victory is Life begins a new chapter in Star Trek Online, and with it a brand new faction. For the first time, play as a Jem'Hadar, the Dominion's finest soldiers!

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10899073

theraven2378

At least that's a load of grinding that can be skipped

szim

This includes a fully-geared starship, shuttle, and crew of Jem’Hadar, as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations

I'm not sure how to feel about that. It's like I'm playing somebody else's endgame character. To me, leveling up a new toon and inventing a backstory/theme is what I like most about this game. Hopefully, the whole Ketracel mechanic will make playing a Jem'hadar character different enough to be interesting...

korithian1

With the removal of the option to subscribe is there any news on when tribble will be opened up?

As we creep closer and closer to June and playable Cardassians, is there any news when in June Victory is life going to launch and Cardassians will be able to begin to join the KDF and Federations? Not that it would be necessary for Cardassians and ViL to be launched on the same day as new captains will have a significant way to go before heading to the Gamma quadrant. Thanks.

thay8472

I don't want to do the reps again, they're so boring!

dmb311

And here I was hoping it was actually a whole new faction and not just another Romulan gimmick, oh well.

thecoffinfly

Odo's Vanguard?

Does this include -100 all power levels when fighting Bajorans and a massive buff against Betazeds?

ghostwtb2312

I can’t wait wat is life victory is life we serve the odo

saedeith

Feels good man. I like that we can skip a ton of grinding and still be able to use faction ships. On the other hand, not really much incentive to play other factions unless you're in it for the story. I'll roll a Fed KDF Rom toon from time to time but the JH is the go to when it launches.

oakland4life

Ah, Odo... humble beginnings as a Station Security Chief to a Intergalatic Dominion Dictator .

voyagerfan9751

oakland4life wrote: »

Ah, Odo... humble beginnings as a Station Security Chief to a Intergalatic Dominion Dictator .

Well, Dictator might be a stretch. We will see. But I did find the whole "Odo's Vanguard" thing weird. Since he never really liked the whole Genetically engineered aspect of either the Vorta or Jem'Hadar.

leemwatson

Ugggh. Letting completely new players jump into STO at level 60 as Jemmy without playing as any other faction, and without learning the game mechanics etc is a bad idea. Should be locked until a player as levelled a toon to 60, as well as completed the requiste R&D, Reps etc. SMH so very, very much here.

leemwatson

Ugggh. Letting completely new players jump into STO at level 60 as Jemmy without playing as any other faction, and without learning the game mechanics etc is a bad idea. Should be locked until a player as levelled a toon to 60, as well as completed the requiste R&D, Reps etc and they should have completed the story upto the introduction of ViL as well on a toon. SMH so very, very much here.

iamynaught

I knew the Jem'Hadar would start at 60, but for some reason actually reading this left me a bit sad. I enjoy leveling, it's why I've maxed out the number of characters on one account and started another.

szim wrote: »

This includes a fully-geared starship, shuttle, and crew of Jem’Hadar, as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations

I'm not sure how to feel about that. It's like I'm playing somebody else's endgame character. To me, leveling up a new toon and inventing a backstory/theme is what I like most about this game. Hopefully, the whole Ketracel mechanic will make playing a Jem'hadar character different enough to be interesting...

I feel the same way. I have stories and ideas in my head for every character I make, it helps me scratch a creative itch I have. I've never been a good artist and my writing skill is amateurish at best, so giving a visual representation to the characters in my head are why I play these types of games where I can create a character. And probably why i don't like games where gear becomes my look, whether I want it to or not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it''s a bad idea. In fact, it makes absolute perfect sense. But now, I'm not sure how many Jem'Hadar I want. I figure 3, one for each career, but after that, I'll probably never make another. Unless I get another idea, of course. Which I always seem to.

Altaholism leads to victory, and Victory is Life!

iamynaught

leemwatson wrote: »

Ugggh. Letting completely new players jump into STO at level 60 as Jemmy without playing as any other faction, and without learning the game mechanics etc is a bad idea. Should be locked until a player as levelled a toon to 60, as well as completed the requiste R&D, Reps etc. SMH so very, very much here.

I have to agree, at least with the "locking Jem'Hadar out until an account has a lvl 60 on it" feeling. Not even a 60 for both Fed and KDF, either would be okay.

I'm going to go into any high level team content very, VERY wary for a few weeks, if not months after ViL launches.

Give a Newb too much at the beginning and they become Noobs. Let new players learn before unleashing them on the general population.

navinabob

This really makes me not want to play a character. I'd MUCH rather have the ability to skip to 60 be a choice you get prompted with (much like with the option to skip the tutorial). This would make running 90% of the missions pointless because the rewards wouldn't be applicable. Aside from getting achievements, is there any point?

If I wanted to just play the raid content I'd be playing my already established level 60 characters. PLEASE reconsider this or make it an option.

captainhunter1

So, any chance of playing a Vorta with the same mechanics in place?

(Simply have a Vorta skin over the Jem'Hadar body and no need for the White (but no Shroud either)

nickarcher404

Especially if the Vanguard are directly overseen by Odo in creation, couldn't new Vorta be "specially bred under the careful eye of Odo"? Reference back to Sisko opening the orb of the emissary. He was writing the plot for the entire series in one sense! As writers, couldn't you give the audience what they want?

Since the writers have the power to make new lore... Why not? And PLEASE!!!! Can we work in a logical, extremely well thought out, almost plot-hole free rationale BOTH the KDF and Starfleet will give to justify presenting Dominion warriors without loyalty to the Federation or Klingon Empire with the most advanced ships either has to offer? We pushed back the space gods (Iconians) and prevented the temporal cold war from running loose. Are we so crazy they need to give us ships and we give them ships to fight off the Hurq'?

I would like lore so my role-playing can continue without the once prestigious Federation turning into the used car lot it is starting too

yakodym

Here's one hoping for playable Vortas, even if as C-store unlockables. It's like being able to play a Star Destroyer commander, instead of a lowly faceless storm-trooper :-D

unotetsu

Do we have to do the little ritual once a day where we pledge ourselves to the founders to get the white we need to LIVE?

nommo

szim wrote: »

This includes a fully-geared starship, shuttle, and crew of Jem’Hadar, as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations

I'm not sure how to feel about that. It's like I'm playing somebody else's endgame character. To me, leveling up a new toon and inventing a backstory/theme is what I like most about this game. Hopefully, the whole Ketracel mechanic will make playing a Jem'hadar character different enough to be interesting...

I guess it is natural, games often begin focusing on more & more veteran content compared to any content for new players when the player base begins dwindling & not too many new players begin playing a game.

phoenix841

[...] and like the Romulans before them, Jem’Hadar will be able to command most of the starships of their allies.

Called it! I said as much in the Romulan T5-6 ship access thread.

navinabob#3474 wrote: »

This really makes me not want to play a character. I'd MUCH rather have the ability to skip to 60 be a choice you get prompted with (much like with the option to skip the tutorial). This would make running 90% of the missions pointless because the rewards wouldn't be applicable. Aside from getting achievements, is there any point?

If I wanted to just play the raid content I'd be playing my already established level 60 characters. PLEASE reconsider this or make it an option.

Given the post, I don't think we'll even have access to the old storyline pre-Hurq in the Dominion faction.
I wish we had A whole separate Gamma Quadrant storyline though, but I understand that's a LOT of time.

ak255

ambassadorkael wrote:

as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations!

We are going to still get the 32K Dil that normally comes for completing that, right? No point of skipping a Rep if I don't get the Dil rewards.

tigeraries

ak255 wrote: »

ambassadorkael wrote:

as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations!

We are going to still get the 32K Dil that normally comes for completing that, right? No point of skipping a Rep if I don't get the Dil rewards.

It'll be bound to fleet use only. maybe Rep use as well. <- My guess

sinn74

All Jem’Hadar will also begin with all of their Skill Points and Traits already allocated, and a free retrain to allow for you to make your Jem’Hadar your own.

The details of each Jem’Hadar’s pre-completed progression will vary depending on the profession path chosen when creating your character – Engineering, Science, or Tactical.

Two questions about this:
1. Is Cryptic "BestDev" Spartan the one allocating the skill points? Because that would probably be the wise way to go.
2. Do the Jem'Hadar even have science vessels for a science profession? I didn't see any obvious ones announced.

phoenix841

sinn74 wrote: »

2. Do the Jem'Hadar even have science vessels for a science profession? I didn't see any obvious ones announced.

That's what the ally ships are for.

cross821

So we will be forced to use the one free retrain token bc you are doing the stats for us? LMFAO give me a break. Well looks all my JM is gonna be good for is getting the ships unlocked and free Dil from the rep. Other then that they are 100% worthless.

iamynaught

ak255 wrote: »

ambassadorkael wrote:

as well as pre-completed progress in Crafting, Specializations, and Reputations!

We are going to still get the 32K Dil that normally comes for completing that, right? No point of skipping a Rep if I don't get the Dil rewards.

It's progress, not completion. Even so, I do follow in the hopes that the Dil will be there when I do finish it.

robert

I have a question about the Vanguard. Is he a bridge officer or a class we can play as, and if so can he be tactical, science and engineer?

lordgyor

> @sinn74 said:
> All Jem’Hadar will also begin with all of their Skill Points and Traits already allocated, and a free retrain to allow for you to make your Jem’Hadar your own.
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> The details of each Jem’Hadar’s pre-completed progression will vary depending on the profession path chosen when creating your character – Engineering, Science, or Tactical.
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> Two questions about this:
> 1. Is Cryptic "BestDev" Spartan the one allocating the skill points? Because that would probably be the wise way to go.
> 2. Do the Jem'Hadar even have science vessels for a science profession? I didn't see any obvious ones announced.

We know they are getting a Vanguard Battlecruiser that hasn't been announced yet either, so I'm betting they get a science vessel too, plus the Vanguard Carrier is likely science focused too.

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