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marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 674 Arc User
The TNG episode “Descent, Part II,” didn’t go the way it looked. Instead of Data defeating Lore, it was the other way around.

Lore went back to the Enterprise, and the Federation dismantled Data. Lore redeems himself when he dies at the end of Nemesis, and Data returns with his memories intact.

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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    Of course now you will to prove it is the case OP, otherwise it's fake news.
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  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    Of course now you will to prove it is the case OP, otherwise it's fake news.

    It is only theory
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited May 2018
    [Mod Hat] This isn't STO related. Bumping to Ten Forward. [/Mod Hat]

    And no, it's not a theory. It's a hypothesis. And one with absolutely no evidence whatsoever backing it up.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    coldnapalm wrote: »
    starswordc wrote: »
    [Mod Hat] This isn't STO related. Bumping to Ten Forward. [/Mod Hat]

    And no, it's not a theory. It's a hypothesis. And one with absolutely no evidence whatsoever backing it up.

    Since a hypothesis needs SOMETHING to be based on, wouldn't this make it a speculation at best?

    Ah, yes, so it is.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,725 Community Moderator
    Lore had emotions. Data did not until Generations. Not only that, Lore wouldn't have known about the Ferengi in the Gorilla Suit joke from Encounter at Farpoint, or have shown any form of affection for Spot. Emotions or not, Data had a bit of a soft spot for his cat. He just showed it differently because of his lack of emotions until Generations.

    Lore made it pretty evident that he was "better" than Data, and with the amount of times Geordi had helped Data with stuff... pretty sure he'd notice anything different.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Lore had emotions. Data did not until Generations. Not only that, Lore wouldn't have known about the Ferengi in the Gorilla Suit joke from Encounter at Farpoint, or have shown any form of affection for Spot. Emotions or not, Data had a bit of a soft spot for his cat. He just showed it differently because of his lack of emotions until Generations.

    Lore made it pretty evident that he was "better" than Data, and with the amount of times Geordi had helped Data with stuff... pretty sure he'd notice anything different.

    The only thing in your statement I can find fault is , Lore and Data were indentical in every mechanical way the only difference was lore had emotions that he could easily hide, also lore might have gained knowledge of datas past even the ferengi joke from datas personal journals/logs, and with spot lore could've easily taken care of spot to keep up apperances.

    However as you said data got emotions during generations so it debunks the whole lore taking datas place hypothesis.
  • marty123#3757 marty123 Member Posts: 674 Arc User
    It’s not my “theory”, just one I saw
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