Warp Shuttles in the Mid 23rd Century ?

ryuranger

In the Third Episode of Star Trek Discovery we see Shuttles going to Warp do they really had that in Cannon the answer is YES THEY DID matter in fact there was script in the Original Series to have Shuttle craft going to Warp matter in fact Matt Jeffery's him self did some sketches of a Warp Powered Shuttle in the Original Series this is a 3d rending of it
So yeah they are still using cannon in Star Trek Discovery while keeping it fresh matter in fact we see different once in TAS as well plus in Enterprise we Saw Different Shuttle Crafts with Warp Drive in them from the Xindi all the way to Vulcans so it makes sense that they have Warp Shuttles in Discovery and TOS The thing to kept remembering folks Star Trek Discovery is trying to kept things in Cannon and at the same time be fresh show that people can watch theses guys are doing there Star Trek Homework here that's one of the reasons why Discovery looks like she dose so please lets just be happy we have Trekkies that know what there are doing have Free Will to kept it Star Trek not like the Executives at former UPN that Killed Enterprise with the TRIBBLE Time Travel TRIBBLE these are good stores and lets try to kept an Open mind the Cannon is ever evolving both past present and Future

evilmark444

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darakoss

ryuranger wrote: »

In the Third Episode of Star Trek Discovery we see Shuttles going to Warp do they really had that in Cannon the answer is YES THEY DID matter in fact there was script in the Original Series to have Shuttle craft going to Warp matter in fact Matt Jeffery's him self did some sketches of a Warp Powered Shuttle in the Original Series this is a 3d rending of it
So yeah they are still using cannon in Star Trek Discovery while keeping it fresh matter in fact we see different once in TAS as well plus in Enterprise we Saw Different Shuttle Crafts with Warp Drive in them from the Xindi all the way to Vulcans so it makes sense that they have Warp Shuttles in Discovery and TOS The thing to kept remembering folks Star Trek Discovery is trying to kept things in Cannon and at the same time be fresh show that people can watch theses guys are doing there Star Trek Homework here that's one of the reasons why Discovery looks like she dose so please lets just be happy we have Trekkies that know what there are doing have Free Will to kept it Star Trek not like the Executives at former UPN that Killed Enterprise with the **** Time Travel **** these are good stores and lets try to kept an Open mind the Cannon is ever evolving both past present and Future

So in canon do they shoot warp shuttles out of cannons?

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rattler2

Just like in TNG where there were multiple shuttle types, it makes sense that there would be in the 23rd Century as well. The Class Fs typically seen aboard Connies were most likely only short range impulse. Doesn't mean that Starfleet didn't have any that were capable of warp travel at all.

artan42

The Type F has used warp drive in TOS. Despite dialogue to the contrary they are warp capable. Unlike this non-canon design.

mustrumridcully0

I see no reason why they should not have the ability to build warp-capable shuttles in the 23rd century. The first warp capable ship was the Phoenix, and it's not larger than a shuttle. I see no reason why their ability to build small warp engines should have diminished.

I am sure they also have the capability to build shuttles without warp, and maybe they did that.

antonine3258

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Picasso - Kirk took this in pursuit of the Enterprise in Menagerie after Spock hijacked the ship.

It ran out of fuel, but Kirk was gambling Spock would come around and pick him up rather than let him run out of air.

ryuranger

That is So True Guys Matter in fact the Design I showed was for a Script that never got produced that intrudiced a Warp Shuttle in TOS so it made sense in Discovery to have them that being said another point go to Star Trek Discovery for being Cannon

evilmark444

ryuranger wrote: »

That is so true guys, as a matter of fact the design I showed was for a script that never got produced, which would have introduced​ a warp capable shuttle in TOS. It makes sense for Discovery to have them, so that's another point for Star Trek Discovery being canon.

While I haven't been impressed with the show so far, I agree that it makes perfect sense. If anyone had an issue with it I don't understand what their problem is.

starkaos

mustrumridcully0 wrote: »

I see no reason why they should not have the ability to build warp-capable shuttles in the 23rd century. The first warp capable ship was the Phoenix, and it's not larger than a shuttle. I see no reason why their ability to build small warp engines should have diminished.

I am sure they also have the capability to build shuttles without warp, and maybe they did that.

A lot of it has to do with cost and purpose. A warp-capable shuttle will always be slower than a warp-capable ship provided that the same technology is used. So using a warp-capable shuttle on an exploratory ship is just asking for trouble due to the dangers of unknown space while it is safe to fly in known Federation space.

Although, the main reason why shuttles in TOS didn't show warp capacity is likely due to shuttles being the 23rd Century equivalent of a tender (small boat used to ferry people and cargo for a much larger ship). So shuttles in TOS were meant to ferry people from the Enterprise to a planet and not travel to another star system.

markhawkman

Spock used one in TMP though.

smokebailey

In the Menagerie, Kirk and Mendez were following the Enterprise, which WARPED out of orbit, in a shuttle craft. It HAD to have warp capability.

markhawkman

Yeah, It's nothing new really. In TAS, the Enterprise was said to carry six different types of shuttle including a warp capable one.

szim

smokebailey wrote: »

In the Menagerie, Kirk and Mendez were following the Enterprise, which WARPED out of orbit, in a shuttle craft. It HAD to have warp capability.

Maybe it even had a mushroom drive?

smokebailey

szim wrote: »

smokebailey wrote: »

In the Menagerie, Kirk and Mendez were following the Enterprise, which WARPED out of orbit, in a shuttle craft. It HAD to have warp capability.

Maybe it even had a mushroom drive?

Was very inefficient if it had.

smokebailey

crashdragon wrote: »

Maybe the Mega Brains made the Enterprise look further or closer then she really was.

The shuttle had those warp pods on the bottom, hence I say it was warp capable.

djf021

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

Giggles...that made my afternoon.

artan42

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.​​

dalolorn

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.​​

Your point?

evilmark444

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.​​

I have never once in my 31 years heard someone refer to the 'period' punctuation as a 'stop', sounds dumber than referring to soda as 'pop'

legendarylycan

then you've clearly never heard someone send a telegram​​

evilmark444

Do telegrams still exist? Only ever seen them mentioned in movies and history books

artan42

evilmark444 wrote: »

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.

I have never once in my 31 years heard someone refer to the 'period' punctuation as a 'stop', sounds dumber than referring to soda as 'pop'

May I just take a moment (or even a period) to congratulate you on your correct usage of the quote mark (') instead of the dialogue indicating speech marks (") more favoured amongst those whom we exiled.

I will now retract it and offer strongly worded (and yet unspoken) insult for your egregious use of 'soda' to refer to 'fizzy pop'.​​

evilmark444

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.

I have never once in my 31 years heard someone refer to the 'period' punctuation as a 'stop', sounds dumber than referring to soda as 'pop'

May I just take a moment (or even a period) to congratulate you on your correct usage of the quote mark (') instead of the dialogue indicating speech marks (") more favoured amongst those whom we exiled.

I will now retract it and offer strongly worded (and yet unspoken) insult for your egregious use of 'soda' to refer to 'fizzy pop'.​​

Actually, we are specifically taught in school to use quotation marks (") when quoting sources and such.

ryuranger

The Spore Drive was pretty much a fallier and we will see that later on in Star Tre

artan42 wrote: »

evilmark444 wrote: »

I would like to introduce you to a close, personal friend of mine: the period.

A period is a length of time of unspecified but regular duration. That is a 'full stop' or simply a 'stop'.​​

I want you to stop posting on this forum you are abusing it and making fun of people Stop it you Troll!

baddmoonrizin

While grammar and punctuation lessons can often be useful to help someone more clearly convey their thoughts, especially on the internet and for those whose first language may not be English, let's not use such knowledge to belittle or shame. Regardless, I think everyone here knows what the topic is, so let's get back to it. Thanks.

artan42

ryuranger wrote: »

I want you to stop posting on this forum you are abusing it and making fun of people Stop it you Troll!

A forum is designed to be posted on making a post not an abuse of use. At no point (in this thread anyway) did I (or indeed anyone here to be fair) 'make fun' of any one. And if you class off topic posts as trolling then that covers about 60% of all posts on these forums which kinda devalues the whole word.

I can't tell if you're talking about Marks post to you about the sentence ending punctuation mark or me for my reply to him but your sentence dosn't apply to anybody in this thread.

This is Ten Forward (this is also partly in reply to @baddmoonrizin ) once a thread has run its course they're often taken over by idle chatter. I don't believe there's much more that can be said about warp capable shuttles so this thread has gone the way of most overs in TF.​​