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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    lordrezeon wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    You are probably right. It would be interesting to see how each of the main Star Trek characters would be in the Kelvin Universe. Kelvin Janeway would expand the Void so it goes from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant.

    Speaking of Picard chugging Beer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZjPOrXMaR4

    Although I find the "A PR Nightmare" from Robot Chicken featuring Patrick Stewart to be better. Speaking of Patrick Stewart in roles that are the complete opposite of Picard, someone should do a video where Director Bullock's lines from American Dad are used instead of Picard's lines for an episode of TNG.

    Well it isn't American Dad, but Family Guy also got in on the act...

    https://youtu.be/s_BX8UjVUvA

    Am I too much of a nerd thinking that the video is impossible due to Deanna being an Empath not a Telepath?
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    Star Trek has an established rule of changing the past changes the present so the crew has to stop the past from being changed to save their present. Old Spock should have been depressed to realize that everyone he knew in the 24th Century never existed. If the time travel rules in Star Trek 2009 is correct, then there was no need for Kirk and Spock to stop Bones in the 1930s and no need for Picard and his crew to travel to the 21st Century to stop the Borg invasion.

    Well... they did throw us a bone with the Alternate Reality being created. How do we know that the rule was violated? What if each instance also created alternate realities? We're talking lots of branches.

    There's also the part where Kirk and Spock did travel back on purpose. Same with Picard and the Ent-E. The instance of Nero and Spock traveling back was accidental.

    Honestly the way the "Time Travel Rules" are set up only take into consideration one single timeline. No branches. Anything you do in the past affects the future. But then we have things like the Mirror Universe, that have the same technology but different events. It would make sense that at some point in the past it could have branched off from the Prime Timeline, which explains the similarities. Same can be said of all the various realities Worf experienced in that one episode of TNG.

    So the way I see it... no rule has been truly violated. We have branching timelines from a common source. The fact Old Spock was still Old Spock as we knew him says that the Prime Timeline still exists. If it didn't, Old Spock would have synced up with the new timeline and remembered everything that Kelvin Spock experienced. Same with the picture Old Spock had of the Prime crew he served with. It would have been altered to show the Kelvin crew instead if he had synced up.

    I despise branching timelines due to it violating the conservation of energy. So the universe has to contain a ton of reserve energy to create every new branching timeline. Besides it ruins every time travel episode and dilemma by removing the drama.

    Picard didn't save the Earth from the Borg assimilating the Earth since his Earth never had the Borg invade Earth in the 21st Century, another Earth was assimilated, and all his work just resulted in him being in a new Earth where the Borg invaded Earth, but was defeated instead of in the assimilated Earth universe. Just seems like a ton of pointless work that doesn't accomplish anything.

    Children of Time is no longer depressing since it is no longer a dilemma between saving the Defiant crew from being confined to a planet, but killing off thousands of their descendants or saving their descendants, but being forever trapped in the past.

    Travelling to a parallel universe that looks like the past is the only reasonable way to explain Star Trek 2009 since there is no restrictions to what the IP owner can do with it. The Prime Universe was not influenced in any way by Star Trek 2009. Any differences that happened before Nero destroyed the USS Kelvin like Caitians that look like humans with cat ears and cat tails can easily be explained due to it being a parallel universe. Branching timelines can explain some of these differences due to erasing all instances of time travel that occurred in the Prime Universe and create new ones. The Kelvin Universe Picard most likely didn't go back to the 21st Century and stop the Borg invasion due to either he didn't exist or the 24th Century Kelvin Universe Federation would have more firepower than the 24th Century Prime Universe Federation. However evolutionary differences can't be explained by the temporal differences created from a branching timeline.

    They'd probably make Kelvin Picard into a Vin Diesel action hero in a star destroyer sized ship, chugging beer or red bull instead of tea ~shudders at that image~ Though JJ probably would go "BRILLIANT!!!!"

    You are probably right. It would be interesting to see how each of the main Star Trek characters would be in the Kelvin Universe. Kelvin Janeway would expand the Void so it goes from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant.

    Speaking of Picard chugging Beer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZjPOrXMaR4

    Although I find the "A PR Nightmare" from Robot Chicken featuring Patrick Stewart to be better. Speaking of Patrick Stewart in roles that are the complete opposite of Picard, someone should do a video where Director Bullock's lines from American Dad are used instead of Picard's lines for an episode of TNG.

    They'll make Janeway into Ripley from Aliens.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    ^Didn't they do that in canon with the Undine?
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
    — Sabaton, "Great War"
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    Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,668 Arc User
    starswordc wrote: »
    ^Didn't they do that in canon with the Undine?

    I mean oversized cannons and all.
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