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Improvement on open ground battlezones please
ironmako
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My favorite part about STO is the ground battles, specifically, the Dyson Sphere Battlezone, as it offers good rewards, and its also always popular with players. Even if I am there just for Dil, I don't consider it a "grind"at all. But somehow, I feel like they dropped the ball when they created the other battlezones so why don't they do something different with other areas to bring them up to the Dyson Spheres' standard? Nukara? Hardly anyone goes there for marks as the reward is tiny, compared to doing the Crystalline queue which can be over in as little as a minute for a bigger reward. Plus the Areas recommended for 2-3 players on Nukara? Pah. I can wash through them with ease single-handed. New Romulus is fun, but again, the rewards are tiny. Kobali Prime is quite a good challenge sometimes as the Vaadwaur have very wild strafing patterns and there always seems to be more coming from nearby, but again, not worth it for what you get. Nimbus could certianly have some ground challenges added and the scorpions removed, maybe some more pirate skirmishes could be added instead, plenty of floorspace for it. But the biggest letdown for me is.....
Defera Invasion zone. My oh my oh my....
Now I grew up watching TNG, I remember when the Borg were first introduced in "Q Who" and I was in awe on how unstoppable they were. I was enthralled when I watched Picard become Locutus in "The Best of Both Worlds", and they kept the Essence of the Borg going in Star Trek:First Contact.
But on Defera? You don't even need weapons, or armor, or shields. You can just go and punch and kick the Borg to death. I'm surprised the Deferi arent surrounding them, pointing and laughing at their ridiculous efforts.
Resistance is futile? Pah! Your face is futile.
Some may point out that the "green/easy" areas are supposed to me less of a challenge for inexperienced players, but come on, when a species like the Borg can be defeated just by sneezing on them, then there clearly is a discrepancy in their skill level. Besides, these areas are to encourage people to team up, and by making the Borg more "Borg-Like" It will make the battlezone a lot more playable and addictive. Also, isn't a challenge supposed to be the whole point in playing a game?
Come on Cryptic, you've repeatedly "rebalanced" the space zones/queues, so why not do the same for the ground? Up the ante, and up the rewards please. You don't have to foribly make us replay the silly ground missions in order to get us to return to these maps, just get them to be more fun, more challenging, and more rewarding. The maps exist, the NPC's are already there, all you need to do is a little tweaking.
So Cryptic, as Q once said: "The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance".
Defera Invasion zone. My oh my oh my....
Now I grew up watching TNG, I remember when the Borg were first introduced in "Q Who" and I was in awe on how unstoppable they were. I was enthralled when I watched Picard become Locutus in "The Best of Both Worlds", and they kept the Essence of the Borg going in Star Trek:First Contact.
But on Defera? You don't even need weapons, or armor, or shields. You can just go and punch and kick the Borg to death. I'm surprised the Deferi arent surrounding them, pointing and laughing at their ridiculous efforts.
Resistance is futile? Pah! Your face is futile.
Some may point out that the "green/easy" areas are supposed to me less of a challenge for inexperienced players, but come on, when a species like the Borg can be defeated just by sneezing on them, then there clearly is a discrepancy in their skill level. Besides, these areas are to encourage people to team up, and by making the Borg more "Borg-Like" It will make the battlezone a lot more playable and addictive. Also, isn't a challenge supposed to be the whole point in playing a game?
Come on Cryptic, you've repeatedly "rebalanced" the space zones/queues, so why not do the same for the ground? Up the ante, and up the rewards please. You don't have to foribly make us replay the silly ground missions in order to get us to return to these maps, just get them to be more fun, more challenging, and more rewarding. The maps exist, the NPC's are already there, all you need to do is a little tweaking.
So Cryptic, as Q once said: "The hall is rented, the orchestra engaged, now it's time to see if you can dance".
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I've dislike the cues since I first was able to do them back in '13 on my first character. Nothing that has come out, been changed or happened since has endeared any further. I still dislike them. Add to that the recent changes in the UI and other areas, and the last time I TRIED to join a cue, I gave up after 20 minutes of nothing happening.
The cues should be there for people that like that sort of thing, but there needs to be alternate means for players that DON'T like them, to get the marks to complete the Reps and get equipment.
Personally, I think EVERY Rep should have a Battlezone ala Dyson and/or Undine. Except Tzenkethi, theirs sucks and needs to be rethough or, a ground version added. I'd play the ground version.
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This..... I would like to see a BZ page added to the missions window - just sayin'...
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They have on a couple of occasions.
Defera get's farmed for fleet marks rather than for Omega marks or dil, and bots can be used on at least one of the missions, as a result Defera just got a small increase in the dil rewards.
Nukara used to have the same pitiful rewards as Defera, 5 marks for an easy and 7 for a medium, with the same crappy dil rewards. When they did the rebalance there they realised that Nukara was one of the few places you were unlikely to find a bot farmer. So they increased the rewards, 15 for an easy and 25 for a medium, they also increased the dil rewards, do the 2 easy and 2 medium outside and you got 1440, since then they have been back to revise the rewards and basically doubled the dil rewards.
New Romulus has a lot of "missions" on it that rewards marks and dil, so all it got was a slight increase in dil.
Dyson BZ I don't think they have done much to the rewards in that dump since they created it, why should they when it's a bot farmers wet dream, if anything they need to reduce the dil rewards from the silo just to P off the farmers.
They should rip out the horrific failure that is the Tzenkethi Space BZ and just replace it with a ground zone.
Honestly I think the CONCEPT they were trying to do in the Tzenkethi zone was interesting. It was much more of a team effort than just pew pew everything. Execution though might need some refinement.
Yeah, the design is great, idea was good. Unfortunately, it could not have been anymore poorly implemented.
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It's completely empty. They should replace it with a ground zone.
Undine and Bad Lands space zones are highly populated, players like BZ's. They won't however, waste their time on horrificly bugged content.
I agree that Borg AI could use an update though. It is a bit silly that the majority of the enemies on Defera will never do much besides slowly walking towards the player.
No, first they have to put some crafting materials on in that zone... so that they may then argue that because they don't want these resources to be freely available, the whole map should be removed
Seriously though, the Tzenkethi battlezone is quite fun to play. If you're not after the end rewards, that is.
Which actually fits the Borg. They don't run.
Going in with a proper team is very fun, but I agree it doesn't help for BZ's popularity if it's not "puggable".
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True, but for a game their behaviour is not really interesting. And that they didn't run in the series is no excuse for their simple behaviour in the game. We, the players, are also sustaining much more fire instead of being seriously wounded after one shot and our ships are being repaired faster while being much more resilient (no cooling leaks for example, we also don't suffer failures of entire systems for prolonged periods of time because the secondary command processors or something like that have taken damage once or twice).
As enemies in a game, they should be more threatening than they are now. Besides, there's no excuse for their other dumb behaviour, such as hitting the same turrets over and over again while it has no effect whatsoever.
I do also like the undine a lot. Badlands was ok. I never cared much for defera. never understood nukara at all. never really played it more than a few seconds of huh - what's going on. I wandered into tzenkethi i think twice then wandered right back out.
I would prefer not to see these zones rebalanced for 2 reasons. 1 is that newer player/fresh lvl 50 or 60 characters can go there and accomplish things. The second is that they can be good test areas for build changes. and bonus - just nice casual fun.
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To me, having a zone require that type of power and coordination doesn't scream 'open public battle zone.' I get what you're saying and I am not bashing on it at all, I'm sure it's fun with a full group and a coordinated effort, but trying to get that type of coordination out of random people in a public zone is absolutely maddening.
Plus, for the guys that just sit there and hold zones it can get pretty tedious. Last time I was there (I admit, it's been a long time) zones were still falling instantly and there was nothing you could do about it. This was after they said that they had 'fixed' that. I'll take your word though if you say it's not bugged anymore, I would bet good money you have been there more recently then I have.