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The Temporal Raider: under-rated and little used.
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I un-mothballed my Ourborous the other night, just to muck about with it on my tac captain for the lolz.
Turns out I'm having a blast with it. Built-in raider flanking coupled with Int/strat specs makes for some epic flanking damage. Adequate weapon layout, although only being 4:2 hurts it a little, I'm still posting good numbers. Built-in battle cloak.
Yes it's a glass cannon, like all 'scorts, but with the right build and spec this is a hard-hitting little monster with lots of room for creative Temporal ability shenanigans given the boff layout.
Did I mention the battle cloak?
Why is this ship so under-utilised? I know the Temporal ships are a bit "meh", but I hardly see anyone running about in them. I'm not a min-maxer posting 500k ISA runs, so I'm sure the space-rich end-gamers will sniff at it, but it seems a great little ship for us 50-100k+'ers.
Turns out I'm having a blast with it. Built-in raider flanking coupled with Int/strat specs makes for some epic flanking damage. Adequate weapon layout, although only being 4:2 hurts it a little, I'm still posting good numbers. Built-in battle cloak.
Yes it's a glass cannon, like all 'scorts, but with the right build and spec this is a hard-hitting little monster with lots of room for creative Temporal ability shenanigans given the boff layout.
Did I mention the battle cloak?
Why is this ship so under-utilised? I know the Temporal ships are a bit "meh", but I hardly see anyone running about in them. I'm not a min-maxer posting 500k ISA runs, so I'm sure the space-rich end-gamers will sniff at it, but it seems a great little ship for us 50-100k+'ers.
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Of course its not really designed for faw, so thats likely a reason for its unpopularity.
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and some people like myself will not touch it for reasons not based on effectiveness.
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Temporal Ships are meh? Raider never used? You must not be around much. The temporal ships are very very good ships. The dread allows for excellent tanking, with high hull and shields, while offering a bit of offense with it's traits and molecular reconstruction options. The science ship allows for excellent AoE-DoT with it's molecular Reconstruction and temporal seating, allowing even a poorly geared fresh lvl 50 character to push out 50k+ DPS pretty much right out of the box. As for the Raider, I don't play tactical toons, but if I did, it wouldn't be my first option on the Fed side, but Rom/KDF, it would be up there. I see them frequently everyday, at least once per 3 queues. The fact that the three ships are universal makes them even better. Are they the best ships in the game, no, absolutely not. Are they the worst ships in the game? Far from it.
I will likely wait for the Summer Event to wind down before focusing my attention to the Ourborous and Eternal.
I mostly play sci and I'm not long off levelling a klink alt. I think I seen the temporal raider once while I was levelling him and not often since then. That was over tens of dozens of queues grinding marks for rep gear.
I mis-worded the "meh" comment. The rest of my original post makes it clear I find the raider a great little ship. I use the temporal sci vessel on my rom alt also. Personally I think they're a great bundle, but that's an opinion that doesn't seem to be reflected by the rest of playerbase. Although in saying that, I do see the sci vessel a lot more often.
As for the other temporal ships, the Eternal is probably one of the better science vessels available and I love using it on one of my science toons. The Chronos is just too big and unwieldy for me to really enjoy, so big it screws with the camera sometimes. It's made me a bit wary of flying other dreadnoughts, really.
Edit: I have seen them fairly regularly in the Mirror Invasion queue these last couple weeks, about the same frequency as the Eternal and Chronos.
Most of this seems on the money, but 50k for a fresh lvl50 seems a tad off, especially post-s13. Even for a fresh-60 romtac aliengen, thats optimistic. On an account that's bought a lot of good c-store ships and has been around for all the events so you have options in what to fly and a good stable of traits if you go through mastery, maybe this number works. I have my engineer from the last recruitment event who can get 60k on a good day, but is more around 50k on average...after maxing out all reps, getting spire consoles/special boffs, purchasing some good traits, buying the 5th ship trait slot, and shelling out half a billion or so on a good set of weapons. 50k was possible for a relatively new character...on an already well set up account.
Edit: As for the temporal ships, they're not only good, but probably the best value to date in the C-store. My main runs the Chronos and managed 113k post-s13 while using a mission-reward shield/engine/deflector and the entire ship-specific console set (character was a Fed/Andorian/Engineer). KDF and Rom-KDF use the raider instead of BoPs, and my best exotic-damage scientist uses the Eternal.
Yup its a good ship. Like many here I got it when it came out and it was wicked fun. However, I prefer science ships and If I need a Battle cloak, All my Romulan Science ship got one (Excluding my R'mor):P...Tho..the new Rep weapon 2 piece would do in a pinch..
Like also mentioned..the cruiser is just awesome. I scored 110kdps with that pre season 13.My KDF toon runs the 31c Sci vessel with Siphon Drones or the Oroboros.:D.. Some of the temporal abilities (Namely Entropic) got a nerf.
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1) The looks. Just not my cup of tea.
2) With my dedication to using ship series' epic consoles to differentiate ships even more than just boff seating, don't mind DPS drops here, they tend to become a major clickfest, especially the dread. Again my own personal problem.
That being said, they're good ships and fly really well.
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Temporal ships and especially the console set are fine. Problem is just that raiders and escorts lack a gun port. I know, I know we have this new heavy weapon with S13. Well sorry, simply not good enough. Especially not considering by how much carrier pets alone got buffed and dreadnoughts get that even on top of a full weapon loadout.
Don’t get me wrong, escorts are the most fun to play but If one does it, it really comes down to a ship you are nuts about because it’s cool an special and whatsoever. Space Barbie if you will. That’s the second time the Ourborous loses and that one time too many for me.
I currently sit on a JHSS and NX. If I had much less resources perhaps I reconsider but even in Z-Store terms we got cooler ones flying around.
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And nobody uses it because it's way too expensive for what it delivers. Either 200k fc for a garbage can that's stuck at t5 or 20k + 4 fsm for an underperfoming escort.
Not really a serious competition for the Ouroboros.
Aside from that raiders have a hard time competeting with escorts nowadays. Especially since we got all those 5/x ships. They're slightly beefier, pack more fire power and their turn rate really isn't that much worse than the raider's.
Ships with a 5/2 layout and Commander Tactical also got the Heavy Weapon Slot.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Never discount the appearance of a ship. It has to be something extra special to warrant the ugliness.
As a side note: I wonder how many "Fed players" are out there, i. e. those not (seriously) playing other faction toons. I was under the impression that most players have at least one of each, so they will know the limitations and how to deal with them. That there may be better ships for certain factions out there would be a different issue.
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But the point is, if 'dps gawds' can get 50k to 100k out of an Aquarius, they could get 75k to 150k out of a better ship.
The whole..."better ship" thing is largely subjective.
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CUz in the 31st century..All Waz Federation..Romulan...Klingon...All now iz Fed :P
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Be that as it may, the point remains the same: people who can squeeze X dmg out of the Aquarius Light Escort, can get X + 50% out of another ship easily. Hence, apart from its looks maybe -- or just because ppl want it -- it's becoming progressively harder to justify buying a Aquarius Light Escort nowadays.
I agree.
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