I was actually looking forward to be able to use subnuce on my engineer and tactical captains, since its one of the 'must have OP' abilities in PvP. One of the reasons science captains are by far the superior force in PvP combat, since that type of engagement is not just a DPS race like PvE.
For my science captains I was also looking forward to this deflector overload ability, to enhance the space magic.
Here is a thought, why not let sci keep the DO, and make subnuke a captain ability for all classes?
As much as I like seeing sub-nuc returned to science, but at the cost of losing the possibilities of what Deflector overload could have done for science in mostly pve content (though some ares of pvp.). I personally would have not minded if they had reworked deflector overload abit differently, or merely just rolled aspects of what it did into the science career abilities. Though also giving access to sub-nuc to all three careers via it being a boff, even if a high science rank boff ability, did make tactical more powerful.
Though i will say it would be nice if they had taken the time to make somewhat of a boff-like system for captains, that you have say 5-6 career specific abilities, and then something like 4-5 more universal captain abilities, and than you could slot up to 4 of them collectively based on your needs. Than I could see giving sub-nuc as one of the four universal captain powers, while giving the devs more ability to create additional career specific abilities to balance the three main specs both in a pve an pvp setting. In this idea though it actually does one fundamental thing, which turning sub-nuc into a boff ability did not, it made you have to elect to forgo using one of your powerful captain abilities (which for tactical can be quite damaging) to take the ability.
I just had another thought I know sto isn't about the holy trinity but it was originally designed in such a way were those roles exist other wise Science and engineering wouldn't have so many support abilities and more offensive abilities. Especially engineers who seem to be made for tanking. I believe that we should make these captains have more of that or at least solidify these roles a bit better tactical are already there, as they are very much rogues of sto.
But engineers need a ability which helps manage aggro. So they can be warriors or clerics, my thought is make rotate shield frequency increase threat greatly or decrease greatly threat based on what threatening position they are in. Then also make EPS Power Transfer ability, also increase outgoing and incoming healing.
Science is basically the mage or bard, make the debuff from sensor scan as well a short aura of sorts, that increases healing to allies and decreases all resistances of enemies so control, damage, drain.
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science had PLENTY of offense at the start of the game - until it got nerfed into the dirt, along with every other part of science except healing
True same with beams, then they Nerfed them. Then brought them back up, its been that way since launch science and beams/cruisers have yet to find a good middle ground.
Honestly I think part of this is because originally this game was obviously was another holy trinity game but, they backed off and tried to make it a ARPG style game play. Which makes the game feel very unfocused. As well as confusing for new players.
they never tried to make it a true trinity game; otherwise they would've locked ships to their respective classes
but yeah, they have a really hard time finding a middle ground for the classes - either it can do what it's supposed to do too well, or it can't do it well enough...funnily enough, the latter has never applied at all to tacs
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they never tried to make it a true trinity game; otherwise they would've locked ships to their respective classes
but yeah, they have a really hard time finding a middle ground for the classes - either it can do what it's supposed to do too well, or it can't do it well enough...funnily enough, the latter has never applied at all to tacs
Well yes though even true trinity games, have their hybrids, rangers, paladins, etc. I always saw that classes being able to choose their own class of ship as a sort of hybridization.
I agree completely with tactical officers even though I enjoy them quite a bit. They get to be better at pve regardless of ship choose. Then the respective other classes. Which is why I think engineers along with the current buffs need a way to manage aggro better. Since they will never have the damage as tactical thous the aggro potential. Unless they have a ability to increase aggro. Ala taunting like ability.
maybe they should tie threatgen to power output....now that they're making it so engineers are the masters of power and far more likely to have lots of it for a significant amount of time compared to science or tacticals, it would be a good way to make just engineers proper aggro magnets
and it's even canon; they pulled a false power output trick in voyager to get the borg to assimilate a shuttle by making it look like a far larger ship, power-wise
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maybe they should tie threatgen to power output....now that they're making it so engineers are the masters of power and far more likely to have lots of it for a significant amount of time compared to science or tacticals, it would be a good way to make just engineers proper aggro magnets
and it's even canon; they pulled a false power output trick in voyager to get the borg to assimilate a shuttle by making it look like a far larger ship, power-wise
Either way there needs to be tool engineer classes can use to up their levels of aggro to that of tactical players. So gdf and alpha strike don't become the go to for aggro generation.
Also even with the nerf to Attrition Warfare. People will still use it maybe with Reciprocity. Both of which are very clearly tank additions, that benefit damage dealers as much as they do tanks thous going to cause a competition. I don't want them to get a Nerf but I do want a alternative for dps players. So a person who enjoys to tank will not, feel like he has to compete for agro because every one has threaten stance up.
Science in PvE also needs to feel like there abilities have more impact. When a tactical captain can out damage with exotics, even with the science only trait. I understand how most of those captains would feel like their captain choose feels limited. That's why I feel science captain abilities need a change for sure originally I remember they were suppose to be great debuffers as well as buffers I think that's were science captains should find their niche in pve because it's quite obvious Tact = damage. At least make science shine in team support(offensive and defensive) and engineers shine in tanking/off tanking and healing.
@lucho80 that's what science captains get for using your voodoo powers to play table table tennis with my poor defenceless Defiant or draining the power from it's luscious nacelles! It's not fair!!!! *cries and runs away*
If you want me ever to switch out my Solanae 2nd deflector for this thing, at least tweak every secondary deflector to give the best stats to whatever skill is tied to the secondary effect.
As for all the other gear, I love the engines. The rest I can live without. It's like another Iconian set. All centered on DPS and survival.
science had PLENTY of offense at the start of the game - until it got nerfed into the dirt, along with every other part of science except healing
We poor science captains have to always suffer because of the faulty logic of:
IF kill doesn't come from weapon DPS THEN nerf it to oblivion
From ENERGY weapons thank you very much. Torps and mines have been in the same boat as sci for a long while now.
You can say that again about mines. I never understood why almost all the special mines are worse than basic mines.
Between the extra range and defence boost my mines layer builds are in the best state they have been in for years. But I am still finding the special mines perform worse than basic mines.
My normal Quantum mine launcher is 7468 damage x4
Quantum Modulating Competition Mine launcher is 5227.8 x4 (with an extra DMG mod over the normal mine)
Tethered Quantum Mine launcher is 7,468.2 x2 !!!!
Slotting in a Modulating Competition Mine or Tethered Quantum Mine over a normal mine launcher gives me a large drop in DPS output.
Apart from the special mines I am very happy with the mine changes. Mines are in a great state right now. Destructible torpedoes and mines are far better now I can keep them alive with all the changes.
My only other request would be photons and Quantum still have hidden stats.
•Photon Mines have increased stealth value from 4825 to 4875 which is not listed.
•Quantum Mines have increased flight speed from 25 to 45, increased explosion triggering distance from 0.4km to 0.7km and increased explosion radius on Detonation from 1.0km to 1.5km which is not listed.
1. I'd like to address the effort made by the development to make this game a new leveled field for most of the players. It is a great initiative and I'd like to thank you for your time, work and effort.
2. I'm also aware that you got around two weeks roughly (actually one development week and one polishing week) and I know the difference between game design and game content modifications.
3. I wish to offer you some issues that from my subjective perspective could be adressed in order to preserve some usability without conflicting with the actual balance design changes.
The issues I'd like to address are mostly PvE related, but also have an impact in PvP to certain extent.
-Plasma proc-based embassy consoles
-Feedback Pulse
-Something for the Science's removal of the Deflector Overcharge.
Plasma proc consoles could still be viable for science related builds.
->Scale Shield Penetration based on Drain Expertise (To help the Sci be on par with the Tac in some situations)
->Scale the proc plasma damage on EPG (To help their utility without having the overpowering Shield Penetration unless being Sci-focused)
->Scale the Threat Generation based on CtrlX (Making them really useful for a Sci build, in synergy with control and lowered Threat generation - in antithesis with Tac and Engi threat spikes)
Feedback Pulse could still throw down some damage back to attackers, only if the player is a tank-related build
->Scaling the damage split on multiple Engineering and Science instead of just being a exotic-related boost. (Using Shield Emitters, Hull Healing, Shield Capacity, Hull Capacity, Shield Regeneration and Hull Regeneration)
->Limiting the damage returned to 120% and allowing it to crit with the Particle Manipulation (Only in PvE if possible)
->Limiting the damage returned to 75% and 25% only shield penetration vs Players. (Let's face facts, just reflecting shouldn't insta-kill you)
Deflector Overcharge's compensation after its removal for Science
->Cause the Photonic Capacitor to offer an increased bonus to EPG, DrainX and CtrlX for each photonic ship alive( for example +50 to all three per photonic ship)
->This centers around a basic skill without allowing some decloak-burst damage with Sci abilities
->The ships are killable, therefore the buff depends and is synergic with survivability and threat generation/threat split - If you're overwhelmed, it's no longer working.
->This keeps the Tac toons also viable for exotic builds, but not as good as a skilled Sci could manage, exotic damage related.
I'm totally aware that it's a late idea, but if it helps or it is implementable, I drop any "intelectual rights or property regarding the ideas suggested here". This is solely a suggestion (free suggestion) for the improvement of the gameplay experience and upon implementation, it belongs to the design/development team.
Thank you for reading, Borticus and keep up the good works. We appreciate your work.
Tweaking. Any opinions from the Design/development team? From end-users? Good/Bad?
I'd like to say that "Boarding Party" still needs some added funtionality. It is nice that the shuttles now turn and directly aim at the target, but as before when the target gets destroyed the shuttle just sits there. It should, like a targetable torpedo, look for a new target OR return to the mother ship and reduce the abilities' cooldown for every shuttle that returns safely. Also, there should be a way to improve the shuttles defence rating as they aren't - and shouldn't - good at taking hits. They should however be able to evade enemy fire better, maybe add DOFFs that synergize with other abilities.
It is hard to justify the high cooldown on "Boarding Party" when enemys don't have crew any more and the subsystem disable triggers a immunity essentially meaning only one shuttle can disable a subsystem and then lose this effect for the remainder of the duration, effectively only leaving the ability cooldown reduction which doesn't apply to NPCs in the first place..
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Just a thought: Why not remove the energy weapon category restriction, making Fire at Will, Overload, Rapid Fire, and Scatter Volley work on all energy weapons like Surgical Strikes does? Doing that would mean we wouldn't need to tinker with Beam: Overload's mechanics directly, instead simply using beams and Rapid Fire, and could work on more accurately balancing the others against their seat level. That wouldn't address the loss of +DBB setups, but we're losing them anyway with these changes.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
I'd like to say that "Boarding Party" still needs some added funtionality. It is nice that the shuttles now turn and directly aim at the target, but as before when the target gets destroyed the shuttle just sits there. It should, like a targetable torpedo, look for a new target OR return to the mother ship and reduce the abilities' cooldown for every shuttle that returns safely. Also, there should be a way to improve the shuttles defence rating as they aren't - and shouldn't - good at taking hits. They should however be able to evade enemy fire better, maybe add DOFFs that synergize with other abilities.
It is hard to justify the high cooldown on "Boarding Party" when enemys don't have crew any more and the subsystem disable triggers a immunity essentially meaning only one shuttle can disable a subsystem and then lose this effect for the remainder of the duration, effectively only leaving the ability cooldown reduction which doesn't apply to NPCs in the first place..
I could see them giving a boost to defense rating of the shuttles via what your aux power is, which would would be nice. Issue with such a bonus being tied to a doff slot is how effective an appealing would it be to use over other doffs. Now a doff that gives boarding party a chance to not trigger the sub-system immunity that might be worth slotting, yet alot of the doffs for boarding party could use some looking at.
Also though i do think that they could use a innate defense/evade mechanic for both the boarding party, and also for the smaller hanger pets. Since honestly both the fighter class, as well as the shuttle class of hanger-pets for their size would be quite nimble an harder to hit. Thus such a change would give them a quite good deal of improved survivability.
I honestly would say that the doff system could use a going over, maybe not a full on revamp, but a cleaning that could be used to both lear out underperforming/useless doffs, while also allowing them to see how they could improve the doff system. Things like doffs that could be used for giving your hanger/seperation pets a portion of the bonuses gained from your main-ship's consoles.
the buff to tyken's rift is too strong , fix it .... at higher levels of drainx it becomes uncounterable and OVERPOWERED takes 300 drainx to achieve what 600 does on holodeck . where is the rebalance in that ?
Torpedoes are now the only weapon that has a single launcher type buff. I can deal with it (though I wouldn't mind having an all-torpedo buff in the game, too).
But when balancing them, it's important to realize that they are not like Cannon Rapid Fire or Beam Fire At Will, which get stronger the more weapons of that type you have.
They are more similar to a power like Gravity Well or Subspace Vortex, except to use them, you need to install a torpedo launcher. That means the power of a Torpedo Spread or High Yield Torpedo needs to be a bit more for one torpedo than BFAW or CRF etc are for a single beam or cannon.
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the buff to tyken's rift is too strong , fix it .... at higher levels of drainx it becomes uncounterable and OVERPOWERED takes 300 drainx to achieve what 600 does on holodeck . where is the rebalance in that ?
Its not OP
I assume you are talking about in pvp.
"Uncounterable" huh, I can think of a fews ways to get out of my rift.
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the buff to tyken's rift is too strong , fix it .... at higher levels of drainx it becomes uncounterable and OVERPOWERED takes 300 drainx to achieve what 600 does on holodeck . where is the rebalance in that ?
Its not OP
I assume you are talking about in pvp.
"Uncounterable" huh, I can think of a fews ways to get out of my rift.
Yea I would agree.. There are several ways to get away from a rift..Especially if you move fast..Or teleport.
Isnt Hazard Emitters a counter now(Or has it always been)?As it is a Hazard..There is also that one trait..
the buff to tyken's rift is too strong , fix it .... at higher levels of drainx it becomes uncounterable and OVERPOWERED takes 300 drainx to achieve what 600 does on holodeck . where is the rebalance in that ?
Its not OP
I assume you are talking about in pvp.
"Uncounterable" huh, I can think of a fews ways to get out of my rift.
Yea I would agree.. There are several ways to get away from a rift..Especially if you move fast..Or teleport.
Isnt Hazard Emitters a counter now(Or has it always been)?As it is a Hazard..There is also that one trait..
I'm getting tired of this , i tested this at 300 drainx and up against sci , tac , engineer , engineers have inversion and eps to "deter" the full drain , but at 500 drainx and up it becomes nullfied as tykens can reach over 100 negative power levels sure u can clear the debuff but it reapplys each second , sure speed will get you out of it but you will still be left without powerlevels , you're not going to move very fast with 0 engine power... this was tested against a pilot escort ... still able to fully stop ... its too strong and needs to be toned down , my problem with it is tykens rift is scaled up so high the resistance to it becomes nothing , meaning , if you run into another drainx build with the same amount drainx as you , you will not be able to resist the drain , now combine that with disables , engines offlines etc , subnuke etc ... backstep ... manifold is 2minute cd . temporal spec - anomalys follow targets , tykens aftershock .... where is this counter you guys are seeing im not seeing it ..
Isn't there a boff or set ability that dissipates/collaspes abnormalities like tykens and grav wells? If not than that might be something to look into as a new addition for boff abilities one that allows the user to collapse grave-wells/tyken's rifts/and the like early with maybe taking a bit of kinetic damage from them collapsing.
I'm getting tired of this , i tested this at 300 drainx and up against sci , tac , engineer , engineers have inversion and eps to "deter" the full drain , but at 500 drainx and up it becomes nullfied as tykens can reach over 100 negative power levels sure u can clear the debuff but it reapplys each second...
I can confirm what Sleeper is saying about Tyken's on Tribble. On an Engineering captain with 120 DrainX, I activated EPS Power Transfer, Nadion Inversion, and Hazard Emitters while he cast Tyken's on me. Even though HE clears the Tyken's debuff quickly, each application of Tyken's still drains power from the subsystems immediately on application, and even EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion combined couldn't stop my power levels from hitting 0. (My power levels bounced between 0 and ~25 with EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion together: Tyken's would drain all power, some power would refill due to the power transfer bonus, and Tyken's would drain it all again.)
Perhaps Tyken's should be reworked such that it lowers the power level setting without deducting power from subsystems immediately when the debuff is applied? If this is done, then staying in a Tyken's without a cleanse will still drain you to 0, but if you have a cleanse going then your power levels remain around normal.
Isn't there a boff or set ability that dissipates/collaspes abnormalities like tykens and grav wells? If not than that might be something to look into as a new addition for boff abilities one that allows the user to collapse grave-wells/tyken's rifts/and the like early with maybe taking a bit of kinetic damage from them collapsing.
Emit Unstable Warp Bubble prevents enemies from activating anomaly abilities (GW, Tyken's, Subspace Vortex, etc.), but it won't clear an anomaly that already exists (I think). It's also on a long cooldown (20s active, 120s single-ability CD, 60 duplicate-ability CD).
I'm getting tired of this , i tested this at 300 drainx and up against sci , tac , engineer , engineers have inversion and eps to "deter" the full drain , but at 500 drainx and up it becomes nullfied as tykens can reach over 100 negative power levels sure u can clear the debuff but it reapplys each second...
I can confirm what Sleeper is saying about Tyken's on Tribble. On an Engineering captain with 120 DrainX, I activated EPS Power Transfer, Nadion Inversion, and Hazard Emitters while he cast Tyken's on me. Even though HE clears the Tyken's debuff quickly, each application of Tyken's still drains power from the subsystems immediately on application, and even EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion combined couldn't stop my power levels from hitting 0. (My power levels bounced between 0 and ~25 with EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion together: Tyken's would drain all power, some power would refill due to the power transfer bonus, and Tyken's would drain it all again.)
Perhaps Tyken's should be reworked such that it lowers the power level setting without deducting power from subsystems immediately when the debuff is applied? If this is done, then staying in a Tyken's without a cleanse will still drain you to 0, but if you have a cleanse going then your power levels remain around normal.
Well maybe to keep the idea of tyken's being a power draining rift, and rework it to both reduce the power transfer/recharge rate, as well as drain the power of the ship it is after just with the drain reworked to a lower amount to compensate for the added fact of it reducing the rate you regain an transfer power under it's effect. Though a work around that agianst pc targets it drain a different amount than compared to enemy targets would be fine too, as the power levels of enemies are vastly higher than players warranting the need for higher power drain totals.
Isn't there a boff or set ability that dissipates/collaspes abnormalities like tykens and grav wells? If not than that might be something to look into as a new addition for boff abilities one that allows the user to collapse grave-wells/tyken's rifts/and the like early with maybe taking a bit of kinetic damage from them collapsing.
Emit Unstable Warp Bubble prevents enemies from activating anomaly abilities (GW, Tyken's, Subspace Vortex, etc.), but it won't clear an anomaly that already exists (I think). It's also on a long cooldown (20s active, 120s single-ability CD, 60 duplicate-ability CD).
I thought it might be something like that. It might be nice to have the devs look into either reworking it to collapse anomalies that are active, or have a doff or trait that adds such a effect onto the existing on as a form of counter to anomalies like grave-well an tyken's. Maybe a change to allow make it that anomalies can't be triggered/created inside the area affected by unstable warp bubble for a period of time might also be acceptable.
What it seems like the goal is with Tyken's (based on current Tribble numbers) is to make it an AoE Siphon. At the same drain skill and ability rank, Tyken's drains the same as Siphon. It trades the "+power to user" benefit for affecting multiple targets. This seems, at face value, a tradeoff that gives each one a unique use.
Besides scaling back the absolute value each drains, what would you have the Devs do? Siphon/Rift take 700+ drain to get over the -100 power threshold, and both may still be needed to drain something like a tac cube. Both abilities seem to have their balance point set for PvE, and since that's what the majority of people do, what's the impetus to change one or both powers?
What it seems like the goal is with Tyken's (based on current Tribble numbers) is to make it an AoE Siphon. At the same drain skill and ability rank, Tyken's drains the same as Siphon. It trades the "+power to user" benefit for affecting multiple targets. This seems, at face value, a tradeoff that gives each one a unique use.
Yeah I can agree with that idea that of them modeling tyken's rift as a aoe o version of syphon, but traded the power return portion for it affecting more than a single target. In ways i also would not have minded if Tykens would trigger some of the traits that are normally triggered by syphon, but that is not something needed an would be hard to keep from being op.
Besides scaling back the absolute value each drains, what would you have the Devs do? Siphon/Rift take 700+ drain to get over the -100 power threshold, and both may still be needed to drain something like a tac cube. Both abilities seem to have their balance point set for PvE, and since that's what the majority of people do, what's the impetus to change one or both powers?
I personally would leave syphon as is, but make a change to tyken's rift that makes it more of a power transfer debuff. I would reduce the overall power drasin of tyken's rift, but than to compensate for the reduced power drain have it debuff the power transfer rate of the ships that are affected making almost synergize with power syphon abit.
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For my science captains I was also looking forward to this deflector overload ability, to enhance the space magic.
Here is a thought, why not let sci keep the DO, and make subnuke a captain ability for all classes?
Though i will say it would be nice if they had taken the time to make somewhat of a boff-like system for captains, that you have say 5-6 career specific abilities, and then something like 4-5 more universal captain abilities, and than you could slot up to 4 of them collectively based on your needs. Than I could see giving sub-nuc as one of the four universal captain powers, while giving the devs more ability to create additional career specific abilities to balance the three main specs both in a pve an pvp setting. In this idea though it actually does one fundamental thing, which turning sub-nuc into a boff ability did not, it made you have to elect to forgo using one of your powerful captain abilities (which for tactical can be quite damaging) to take the ability.
But engineers need a ability which helps manage aggro. So they can be warriors or clerics, my thought is make rotate shield frequency increase threat greatly or decrease greatly threat based on what threatening position they are in. Then also make EPS Power Transfer ability, also increase outgoing and incoming healing.
Science is basically the mage or bard, make the debuff from sensor scan as well a short aura of sorts, that increases healing to allies and decreases all resistances of enemies so control, damage, drain.
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Honestly I think part of this is because originally this game was obviously was another holy trinity game but, they backed off and tried to make it a ARPG style game play. Which makes the game feel very unfocused. As well as confusing for new players.
but yeah, they have a really hard time finding a middle ground for the classes - either it can do what it's supposed to do too well, or it can't do it well enough...funnily enough, the latter has never applied at all to tacs
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
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A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Well yes though even true trinity games, have their hybrids, rangers, paladins, etc. I always saw that classes being able to choose their own class of ship as a sort of hybridization.
I agree completely with tactical officers even though I enjoy them quite a bit. They get to be better at pve regardless of ship choose. Then the respective other classes. Which is why I think engineers along with the current buffs need a way to manage aggro better. Since they will never have the damage as tactical thous the aggro potential. Unless they have a ability to increase aggro. Ala taunting like ability.
and it's even canon; they pulled a false power output trick in voyager to get the borg to assimilate a shuttle by making it look like a far larger ship, power-wise
#LegalizeAwoo
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
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A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
Either way there needs to be tool engineer classes can use to up their levels of aggro to that of tactical players. So gdf and alpha strike don't become the go to for aggro generation.
Also even with the nerf to Attrition Warfare. People will still use it maybe with Reciprocity. Both of which are very clearly tank additions, that benefit damage dealers as much as they do tanks thous going to cause a competition. I don't want them to get a Nerf but I do want a alternative for dps players. So a person who enjoys to tank will not, feel like he has to compete for agro because every one has threaten stance up.
Science in PvE also needs to feel like there abilities have more impact. When a tactical captain can out damage with exotics, even with the science only trait. I understand how most of those captains would feel like their captain choose feels limited. That's why I feel science captain abilities need a change for sure originally I remember they were suppose to be great debuffers as well as buffers I think that's were science captains should find their niche in pve because it's quite obvious Tact = damage. At least make science shine in team support(offensive and defensive) and engineers shine in tanking/off tanking and healing.
We poor science captains have to always suffer because of the faulty logic of:
IF kill doesn't come from weapon DPS THEN nerf it to oblivion
It's not fair!!!! *cries and runs away*
If you want me ever to switch out my Solanae 2nd deflector for this thing, at least tweak every secondary deflector to give the best stats to whatever skill is tied to the secondary effect.
As for all the other gear, I love the engines. The rest I can live without. It's like another Iconian set. All centered on DPS and survival.
Between the extra range and defence boost my mines layer builds are in the best state they have been in for years. But I am still finding the special mines perform worse than basic mines.
My normal Quantum mine launcher is 7468 damage x4
Quantum Modulating Competition Mine launcher is 5227.8 x4 (with an extra DMG mod over the normal mine)
Tethered Quantum Mine launcher is 7,468.2 x2 !!!!
Slotting in a Modulating Competition Mine or Tethered Quantum Mine over a normal mine launcher gives me a large drop in DPS output.
Apart from the special mines I am very happy with the mine changes. Mines are in a great state right now. Destructible torpedoes and mines are far better now I can keep them alive with all the changes.
My only other request would be photons and Quantum still have hidden stats.
•Photon Mines have increased stealth value from 4825 to 4875 which is not listed.
•Quantum Mines have increased flight speed from 25 to 45, increased explosion triggering distance from 0.4km to 0.7km and increased explosion radius on Detonation from 1.0km to 1.5km which is not listed.
Saddest part, that one costs lobi AND it and the long range tetryon cannon from the same set don't get a mod when upgrading from rare to VR,
Tweaking. Any opinions from the Design/development team? From end-users? Good/Bad?
It is hard to justify the high cooldown on "Boarding Party" when enemys don't have crew any more and the subsystem disable triggers a immunity essentially meaning only one shuttle can disable a subsystem and then lose this effect for the remainder of the duration, effectively only leaving the ability cooldown reduction which doesn't apply to NPCs in the first place..
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I could see them giving a boost to defense rating of the shuttles via what your aux power is, which would would be nice. Issue with such a bonus being tied to a doff slot is how effective an appealing would it be to use over other doffs. Now a doff that gives boarding party a chance to not trigger the sub-system immunity that might be worth slotting, yet alot of the doffs for boarding party could use some looking at.
Also though i do think that they could use a innate defense/evade mechanic for both the boarding party, and also for the smaller hanger pets. Since honestly both the fighter class, as well as the shuttle class of hanger-pets for their size would be quite nimble an harder to hit. Thus such a change would give them a quite good deal of improved survivability.
I honestly would say that the doff system could use a going over, maybe not a full on revamp, but a cleaning that could be used to both lear out underperforming/useless doffs, while also allowing them to see how they could improve the doff system. Things like doffs that could be used for giving your hanger/seperation pets a portion of the bonuses gained from your main-ship's consoles.
Torpedoes are now the only weapon that has a single launcher type buff. I can deal with it (though I wouldn't mind having an all-torpedo buff in the game, too).
But when balancing them, it's important to realize that they are not like Cannon Rapid Fire or Beam Fire At Will, which get stronger the more weapons of that type you have.
They are more similar to a power like Gravity Well or Subspace Vortex, except to use them, you need to install a torpedo launcher. That means the power of a Torpedo Spread or High Yield Torpedo needs to be a bit more for one torpedo than BFAW or CRF etc are for a single beam or cannon.
Its not OP
I assume you are talking about in pvp.
"Uncounterable" huh, I can think of a fews ways to get out of my rift.
Yea I would agree.. There are several ways to get away from a rift..Especially if you move fast..Or teleport.
Isnt Hazard Emitters a counter now(Or has it always been)?As it is a Hazard..There is also that one trait..
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I can confirm what Sleeper is saying about Tyken's on Tribble. On an Engineering captain with 120 DrainX, I activated EPS Power Transfer, Nadion Inversion, and Hazard Emitters while he cast Tyken's on me. Even though HE clears the Tyken's debuff quickly, each application of Tyken's still drains power from the subsystems immediately on application, and even EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion combined couldn't stop my power levels from hitting 0. (My power levels bounced between 0 and ~25 with EPS Power Transfer and Nadion Inversion together: Tyken's would drain all power, some power would refill due to the power transfer bonus, and Tyken's would drain it all again.)
Perhaps Tyken's should be reworked such that it lowers the power level setting without deducting power from subsystems immediately when the debuff is applied? If this is done, then staying in a Tyken's without a cleanse will still drain you to 0, but if you have a cleanse going then your power levels remain around normal.
Emit Unstable Warp Bubble prevents enemies from activating anomaly abilities (GW, Tyken's, Subspace Vortex, etc.), but it won't clear an anomaly that already exists (I think). It's also on a long cooldown (20s active, 120s single-ability CD, 60 duplicate-ability CD).
Well maybe to keep the idea of tyken's being a power draining rift, and rework it to both reduce the power transfer/recharge rate, as well as drain the power of the ship it is after just with the drain reworked to a lower amount to compensate for the added fact of it reducing the rate you regain an transfer power under it's effect. Though a work around that agianst pc targets it drain a different amount than compared to enemy targets would be fine too, as the power levels of enemies are vastly higher than players warranting the need for higher power drain totals.
I thought it might be something like that. It might be nice to have the devs look into either reworking it to collapse anomalies that are active, or have a doff or trait that adds such a effect onto the existing on as a form of counter to anomalies like grave-well an tyken's. Maybe a change to allow make it that anomalies can't be triggered/created inside the area affected by unstable warp bubble for a period of time might also be acceptable.
Besides scaling back the absolute value each drains, what would you have the Devs do? Siphon/Rift take 700+ drain to get over the -100 power threshold, and both may still be needed to drain something like a tac cube. Both abilities seem to have their balance point set for PvE, and since that's what the majority of people do, what's the impetus to change one or both powers?
Yeah I can agree with that idea that of them modeling tyken's rift as a aoe o version of syphon, but traded the power return portion for it affecting more than a single target. In ways i also would not have minded if Tykens would trigger some of the traits that are normally triggered by syphon, but that is not something needed an would be hard to keep from being op.
I personally would leave syphon as is, but make a change to tyken's rift that makes it more of a power transfer debuff. I would reduce the overall power drasin of tyken's rift, but than to compensate for the reduced power drain have it debuff the power transfer rate of the ships that are affected making almost synergize with power syphon abit.