Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
It does the exact opposite of stunting the game - it keeps the gap between the oodles of time and the casual players somewhat in check. Its controls the rate at which you can fall behind. It rewards steady, regular play over intense bursts of activity. They want you checking in daily even if you're not gonna do much more than click that one button. If you absolutely want it nao!, you can pay real cash to skip ahead a bit. Otherwise recognize that some goodies are on a (shared) timer.
Trust me, the day will come when you earn less than 8,000 ore and start processing your way though your overstock.
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
It's been this way for 6 years. Adjusting it by giving a higher limit will destabilize the economy of the game. You can get an extra 500 at Fleet Mine a day. And for the record, this is a very generous free-to-play game. How much more free stuff do you want!?
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Really it's fine where it is. If you need more, you can always level up more characters. This keeps the game alive and gives people a reason to keep leveling up more characters and grinding for dil.
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
Other than "I want to refine more" what reasons can you offer to support this? Have you thought beyond "I want"?
If this is to exchange dil for zen, do you understand what inflation is and how it changes the value of a currency? Hint: Zimbabwe has a $100 trillion dollar bill.
Ok, with the 8k dil limit in place I managed to get to 50+ character slots, several ship and costume options from the C-store incuding the Kumari triple pack, and 30+ ship modules for fleet ships, from dil to zen to purchases. Not to mention over 60 master keys and well, I forget what else.
I haven't been here as long as most people posting.
What I did is grindy, and a little distracting from the fun at times, but no, it isn't so ridiculous to do.
As you get zen, buy character slots. As you fill the slots, use the toons to increase your refining rate. get more stuff, and have more fun. The result is the fruit of your labors, and is very sweet.
And toons don't have to be just resource props. I go to some trouble to make each one distinct, and try to equip them along the theme I had in mind, so no, I am not just exploiting the tools. I like all my characters as concepts.
I just don't see the need to mess with the cap.
Qapla!
P.S. I can't get keep raw dil long enough to notice it. It all get processed so fast.
You see these threads alot these days in the forums of the different MMOs I play. Kids unused to not getting what they want when they want it. So instead of adapting to it and making the most of what they do get they beg and whine, as if they're trying to convince their mother to cave in and give them what they want. I blame poor parenting more than I do the kid, not that the kid isn't without blame.
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
if the game decides let's say 16k per day then dil to zen balance will also be highered. do you want to buy zen for 1k dill
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
if the game decides let's say 16k per day then dil to zen balance will also be highered. do you want to buy zen for 1k dill
indeed, if they increase the refine limit it would be unfair to not increase the exchange rate cap to match, also players that might buy dilithium might not need to buy as much as they will be able to refine their own at a faster rate also so you might see a lot less dilithium being bought, this could even result in the death of the exchange altogether.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
I see what you're saying guys, very good points. As a new player I didn't really consider the other factors that are involved in the daily dil refining limit. Thanks for setting me straight!
I see what you're saying guys, very good points. As a new player I didn't really consider the other factors that are involved in the daily dil refining limit. Thanks for setting me straight!
makes a very nice change to alter someone's point of view in these kind of threads. must be a red letter day!
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
If I had 1 refined dilithium for every time I had seen and heard people ask for the cap lifted I would never even need the cap lifted XD Multiple toons is the key, for 30mins per day I did the crystal event on five toons and am currently reaping the associated rewards. Granted I do still run dry daily with upgrades, but 5 toons is my limit and I'm at peace with my dil capacity. I know allot of people with armies of toons for this reason. Maybe not the answer you were looking for but a refine cap increase is EXTREMELY unlikely to come. The dil exhange may just simply melt.
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I see what you're saying guys, very good points. As a new player I didn't really consider the other factors that are involved in the daily dil refining limit. Thanks for setting me straight!
Wow.. someone that saw the other side of their argument and acknowledged a different perspective?
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
If they up the daily limit for subscriber, that would be nice.
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Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
If they up the daily limit for subscriber, that would be nice.
Actually it keeps F2P alive. Removing it would kill the game.
If the increase the daily for subscribers, it would help F2P player become subscribers!
as I am in a fleet and also a lifetime subscriber I am capable of refining an extra 1k dil a day but never bother to use this bonus as I find with the number of active characters I have (6) 8k per day is quite sufficient.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Please, please get rid of the 8,000 daily limit. Or at least make make the limit bigger! It stunts growth of the game and puts a lot of people off even playing.
Oh, so you want to pay more for master keys? Because that is what is going to happen if the cap is raised or eliminated. How much do you want to pay for each key? 10m? 20m? 100m? All of the exchange prices on everything obtained by way of lockbox or lobi will increase in proportion to the increase in refinement cap. So that is what you want huh?
Okay.
Look, I got almost 2 million in unrefined dilithium ore myself and I know what would happen to this game if I, along with everyone else(don't forget that), was allowed to refine it all quickly. There is no way I would ever call for something like this, raising or eliminating the cap.
You have a ton of dil ore and you want to refine it, fine. But you are not seeing the incredibly negative effects of what will happen as a result. I guarantee you this, you will NOT like what happens if they raise or eliminate the dil ore refinement cap.
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Trust me, the day will come when you earn less than 8,000 ore and start processing your way though your overstock.
It's been this way for 6 years. Adjusting it by giving a higher limit will destabilize the economy of the game. You can get an extra 500 at Fleet Mine a day. And for the record, this is a very generous free-to-play game. How much more free stuff do you want!?
Other than "I want to refine more" what reasons can you offer to support this? Have you thought beyond "I want"?
If this is to exchange dil for zen, do you understand what inflation is and how it changes the value of a currency? Hint: Zimbabwe has a $100 trillion dollar bill.
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Why are you not rejoicing?
I haven't been here as long as most people posting.
What I did is grindy, and a little distracting from the fun at times, but no, it isn't so ridiculous to do.
As you get zen, buy character slots. As you fill the slots, use the toons to increase your refining rate. get more stuff, and have more fun. The result is the fruit of your labors, and is very sweet.
And toons don't have to be just resource props. I go to some trouble to make each one distinct, and try to equip them along the theme I had in mind, so no, I am not just exploiting the tools. I like all my characters as concepts.
I just don't see the need to mess with the cap.
Qapla!
P.S. I can't get keep raw dil long enough to notice it. It all get processed so fast.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Church police: right, we'll be arresting them too.
if the game decides let's say 16k per day then dil to zen balance will also be highered. do you want to buy zen for 1k dill
indeed, if they increase the refine limit it would be unfair to not increase the exchange rate cap to match, also players that might buy dilithium might not need to buy as much as they will be able to refine their own at a faster rate also so you might see a lot less dilithium being bought, this could even result in the death of the exchange altogether.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
makes a very nice change to alter someone's point of view in these kind of threads. must be a red letter day!
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Multiple toons is the key, for 30mins per day I did the crystal event on five toons and am currently reaping the associated rewards. Granted I do still run dry daily with upgrades, but 5 toons is my limit and I'm at peace with my dil capacity.
I know allot of people with armies of toons for this reason.
Maybe not the answer you were looking for but a refine cap increase is EXTREMELY unlikely to come.
The dil exhange may just simply melt.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Wow.. someone that saw the other side of their argument and acknowledged a different perspective?
Very rare around here.. welcome aboard!
Dude! You fight with honor!
You are welcome on any team I am leader of!
Qapla!
If they up the daily limit for subscriber, that would be nice.
If the increase the daily for subscribers, it would help F2P player become subscribers!
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as I am in a fleet and also a lifetime subscriber I am capable of refining an extra 1k dil a day but never bother to use this bonus as I find with the number of active characters I have (6) 8k per day is quite sufficient.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Oh, so you want to pay more for master keys? Because that is what is going to happen if the cap is raised or eliminated. How much do you want to pay for each key? 10m? 20m? 100m? All of the exchange prices on everything obtained by way of lockbox or lobi will increase in proportion to the increase in refinement cap. So that is what you want huh?
Okay.
Look, I got almost 2 million in unrefined dilithium ore myself and I know what would happen to this game if I, along with everyone else(don't forget that), was allowed to refine it all quickly. There is no way I would ever call for something like this, raising or eliminating the cap.
You have a ton of dil ore and you want to refine it, fine. But you are not seeing the incredibly negative effects of what will happen as a result. I guarantee you this, you will NOT like what happens if they raise or eliminate the dil ore refinement cap.