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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    A T6 Sovereign? Finally. Now all of the TNG era hero ships have their upgrade. I do wonder, however, if the ship will be promotional code only. I honestly doubt that they'll do this, because all other hero ships are available in the C-Store, and I can only imagine the riot that this would cause in the forums. If they make a C-Store version to go with this one, I imagine they'll each have a different console, and maybe a different hull design and/or hybrid seating.

    I'm glad that we get a T6 Sovereign.

    @reyan01 : Yeah, it is another cruiser. But I think cruisers have all been accounted for now.
    (Wasn't me that said this
    Still missing:
    • Ambassador
    • Original Cryptic Star Cruiser
    • Stargazer

    Also Constellation/Cheyenne class
  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    That said, I'd at least like to see the stats on this "T6 Command Assault Cruiser".....
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    Isn't this cheaper than the zen store price tag of T6 ships though? So spend less, get more?
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  • zerokillcf2011zerokillcf2011 Member Posts: 545 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    Isn't this cheaper than the zen store price tag of T6 ships though? So spend less, get more?

    but some people like to complain just because they can......you can buy this for $15, and get some junk with it that you throw away........or you can complain because you can't buy it in game for $30..............hmmmmmmmmm.......
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,958 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    A T6 Sovereign? Finally. Now all of the TNG era hero ships have their upgrade. I do wonder, however, if the ship will be promotional code only. I honestly doubt that they'll do this, because all other hero ships are available in the C-Store, and I can only imagine the riot that this would cause in the forums. If they make a C-Store version to go with this one, I imagine they'll each have a different console, and maybe a different hull design and/or hybrid seating.

    I'm glad that we get a T6 Sovereign.

    @reyan01 : Yeah, it is another cruiser. But I think cruisers have all been accounted for now.
    (Wasn't me that said this
    Still missing:
    • Ambassador
    • Original Cryptic Star Cruiser
    • Stargazer

    Also Constellation/Cheyenne class

    Constellation/Cheyenne falls under Stargazer.
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    A T6 Sovereign? Finally. Now all of the TNG era hero ships have their upgrade. I do wonder, however, if the ship will be promotional code only. I honestly doubt that they'll do this, because all other hero ships are available in the C-Store, and I can only imagine the riot that this would cause in the forums. If they make a C-Store version to go with this one, I imagine they'll each have a different console, and maybe a different hull design and/or hybrid seating.

    I'm glad that we get a T6 Sovereign.

    @reyan01 : Yeah, it is another cruiser. But I think cruisers have all been accounted for now.
    (Wasn't me that said this
    Still missing:
    • Ambassador
    • Original Cryptic Star Cruiser
    • Stargazer

    Also Constellation/Cheyenne class

    Constellation/Cheyenne falls under Stargazer.

    Oops - my mistake; apologies! :s
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 408 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    That said, I'd at least like to see the stats on this "T6 Command Assault Cruiser".....
    Chill dude. As other people have pointed out, you're paying half of what you'd pay to get it through the C-Store. But if that's not good enough, just go to whatever local gaming store near you sells Attack Wing and ask around if there's anyone who plays Attack Wing and doesn't play STO. You might find someone planning on buying the Sovereign who'll gladly give you the code for the STO ship.
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,217 Arc User
    lnblade wrote: »
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    That said, I'd at least like to see the stats on this "T6 Command Assault Cruiser".....
    Chill dude. As other people have pointed out, you're paying half of what you'd pay to get it through the C-Store. But if that's not good enough, just go to whatever local gaming store near you sells Attack Wing and ask around if there's anyone who plays Attack Wing and doesn't play STO. You might find someone planning on buying the Sovereign who'll gladly give you the code for the STO ship.

    Heh, you'll be lucky to find any. We have 4 game stores in town and NONE carry more than a couple of STAW minis. It's the same rules as X-Wing, but without any semblance of play balance so people don't really play it much, they just collect the minis.

    That being said, you might get lucky, or be able to find someone at BoardGameGeek or the like who is willing to part with their code, or someone selling it on EBay. In 6-8 months the codes will be worth $50+, so be quick if you are looking.
  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    lnblade wrote: »
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    That said, I'd at least like to see the stats on this "T6 Command Assault Cruiser".....
    Chill dude.

    Ha! If I had a nickel for every time...
    "lnblade wrote:
    As other people have pointed out, you're paying half of what you'd pay to get it through the C-Store. But if that's not good enough, just go to whatever local gaming store near you sells Attack Wing and ask around if there's anyone who plays Attack Wing and doesn't play STO. You might find someone planning on buying the Sovereign who'll gladly give you the code for the STO ship.

    If it truly is $15, and it is easily available to everyone without any silly hoop-jumping (I'm talking Amazon.com or Walmart as the level of ease and simplicity, here), then I guess the rage subsides a bit.

  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    then I guess the rage subsides a bit.

    Bad move Dr. Banner. If you let the rage subside, Ross and Talbot win. ;)
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    People say "i can only image the rage on the forums if it was only obtainable through this offer and not the cstore blah blah blah..."

    But i say there can be reasonable "rage" from those who actually went out their way to obtain this game piece to get this ship then later offer it in the cstore. Just like if they were to do that with the T6 connie or mirror guardian or any other hard to get 'exclusive' ship.
    I would be miffed for sure. But yeah yeah, i got it for half price....not really the point.
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 408 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    If it truly is $15, and it is easily available to everyone without any silly hoop-jumping (I'm talking Amazon.com or Walmart as the level of ease and simplicity, here), then I guess the rage subsides a bit.

    The general price of the expansion ships is $15 and Amazon does sell them, I don't know about Wal-Mart. The expansion that includes the Sovereign reprint with the code won't be out until November, though so we're probably a ways off from seeing any stats for it just yet.
  • jaturnleyjaturnley Member Posts: 1,217 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    You can also get them through the various board game shops online (MiniatureMarket, CoolStuffInc), although you will pay for shipping. Their prices are usually lower to make up for most of the shipping cost, though. For example, MM has the Wave 26 ships for $11.29 with $6 shipping.
  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    From what I read, the code only goes into packages heading out to the game stores & you have to get it there:

    "Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores."

    - See more at: http://www.startrek.com/article/exclusive-preview-u-s-s-enterprise-e-repaint-for-attack-wing#sthash.nw60IJZq.dpuf
  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    So, I wonder if those who have their store order one will get a code or not. I'd assume so, since it's the store ordering it, but, yeah.
  • lnbladelnblade Member Posts: 408 Arc User
    From what I read, the code only goes into packages heading out to the game stores & you have to get it there:

    "Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores."

    - See more at: http://www.startrek.com/article/exclusive-preview-u-s-s-enterprise-e-repaint-for-attack-wing#sthash.nw60IJZq.dpuf
    Ok, yeah that's a pretty TRIBBLE thing to do.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,204 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    then I guess the rage subsides a bit.

    Bad move Dr. Banner. If you let the rage subside, Ross and Talbot win. ;)

    Only until Black Widow comes into the picture with the Hulk.
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  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    Not really. While it does TRIBBLE over people that don't know where their local gaming store is (you can probably find this info on the internet), it does force you to actually go and find your store, which in effect means more business for said store in the future (hopefully).

    As no doubt this promotion was intended for people to hopefully check out the base game, limiting it to stores only would in effect at least force you to look at the base game while trying to find your mini.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    I really hope its promo code only.... the butthurt and rage already flows and there's 0 confirmation. For those raging remember all those lols you had at the t6 Connie fans
  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    So, I wonder if those who have their store order one will get a code or not. I'd assume so, since it's the store ordering it, but, yeah.

    I'd say 'yes', because the packaging shown on the preview-pictures looks like the code is inside the blister itself.

  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    So, I wonder if those who have their store order one will get a code or not. I'd assume so, since it's the store ordering it, but, yeah.

    I'd say 'yes', because the packaging shown on the preview-pictures looks like the code is inside the blister itself.

    Per the quote mentioned above, only physical gaming stores will get packs with codes. I'm assuming they have the different versions of the packs separated or something.
  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    So, I wonder if those who have their store order one will get a code or not. I'd assume so, since it's the store ordering it, but, yeah.

    I'd say 'yes', because the packaging shown on the preview-pictures looks like the code is inside the blister itself.

    Per the quote mentioned above, only physical gaming stores will get packs with codes. I'm assuming they have the different versions of the packs separated or something.

    Why should they do that? Seems like unnecessary extra-production-costs. Besides, ordering it would be the only way for relatively many players to get it anyways. I have never seen Wizkids-stuff around here at all, and german gaming-stores do actually have a lot of niché-stuff. The best one I had around the corner had to close for good though. There are only smaller ones left, and they only have select few imported things (the ones that actually make some profit).

    With any luck I might find it among imported stuff on amazon - no code, no order.
  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    I don't know. Other wizkids/STO promos usually only mail stuff in the US (those outside get their prize in ZEN) so maybe it's intended to be a mostly-US thing?

    Either way, I'm not saying that's what they should do, but they are doing it anyway.
    From what I read, the code only goes into packages heading out to the game stores & you have to get it there:

    "Secondly, the new U.S.S. Enterprise-E comes with a promotional code for use with Star Trek Online. Use the code included in your pack to claim the WizKids EXCLUSIVE Command Assault Cruiser, a $30 value, in Star Trek Online for FREE. Players will only be able to claim the digital version of the ship for the Star Trek Online game by physically purchasing the expansion at their local game stores."

    - See more at: http://www.startrek.com/article/exclusive-preview-u-s-s-enterprise-e-repaint-for-attack-wing#sthash.nw60IJZq.dpuf
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    hanover2 wrote: »
    So, wait. I have to buy some piece of a crappy table top game I'll never play, in order to obtain a T6 Sovereign? And it will never be available any other way? Ridiculous.

    That said, I'd at least like to see the stats on this "T6 Command Assault Cruiser".....

    but whats the price ?? its like 15 bucks?? or 30???
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    one more thing when is this supposed to be ready for purchase???
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  • imperatorpaveliimperatorpaveli Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    @wildweasal The Attack wing packs are usually $15, and the pack itself doesn't come out until early next month.
  • chozoelder2ndchozoelder2nd Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    kjfett wrote: »
    kjfett wrote: »
    I'm curious as to why it's labeled as a "Command Assault Cruiser". It's not like the other standard T6 ships are named in such a way.

    Because the T5 ship is called an Assault Cruiser as the ship model is used to represent the Sovereign, Majestic, Noble, and Imperial class cruisers. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Assault_Cruiser

    I know that the Sovereign is called an Assault Cruiser. They're calling it Command Assault Cruiser. The Command part is what I'm curious about. Read the rest of my post.

    Sorry, I assumed the fact that they use Command on other ships to indicate that they have Command Boffs...and the fact that I already explained all that in an earlier post would have been obvious. Funny that you suggest I read your post when you failed to read several of mine. :tongue:

    I understood. It's completely obvious that T6 Sovereign will come with Command boff seating seeing as how the box literally says "Command Assault Cruiser". The point that I'm trying to make is that I'm wondering whether or not it will be a true Command ship, whether it will have a full seating (Commander Engineering/Command and comes with inspiration abilities) or a partial seating (like Lt. Commander Universal/Command and does not come with the inspiration mechanic).

    The Command Battlecruisers you linked are true Command ships. They have Command in the name because they have the full seating and the inspiration mechanic. Traditionally, most of the prime canon hero T6 ships (such as Andromeda/T6 Galaxy or Valiant/T6 Defiant) do not come with the full specialization seating or the mechanic. Andromeda is not a fully fledged Command ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Engineering/Command and no inspiration mechanic. Valiant is not a fully fledged Pilot ship because it only comes with Lt. Commander Tactical/Pilot and no pilot maneuvers.

    Andromeda isn't known as "Command Exploration Cruiser" because it's not a Command ship. It's instead just called "Exploration Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or "Andromeda Exploration Cruiser" under the C-store.

    Valiant isn't known as "Pilot Tactical Escort" because it's not a Pilot ship. Instead it's just called "Tactical Escort [T6]" in admiralty or "Tactical Escort - Valiant Class" under the C-store.

    I'm just repeating myself at this point. Just because a ship has Command boffs doesn't mean they are true Command ships.

    What I'm curious about is why they're calling the T6 Sovereign as "Command Assault Cruiser" when the name should just be "Assault Cruiser [T6]". This is sorta implying that it will end up being a true fully fledged Command ship just like the ships in your link.

    Like I said before, I'm really doubting it and only think that this is merely just a sneak peak. When it comes out, it's likely that it will be called "Assault Cruiser [T6]" in admiralty or something like "Assault Cruiser - Emperor Class" under the C-store. This is just under the assumption that T6 Sovereign will follow the tradition of other prime hero ships don't get the full treatment. The only other ship to break this tradition was T6 Connie. Maybe it will end up as a true Command ship. Who knows.
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    I assume not either. We have to keep in mind who wrote that promo, wizkids, i dont assume they are up on their STO like we are, and who knows what material Cryptic gave them when they submitted the collaboration.

    I want to equip the full assimilated set on her to match the admiralty card for assimilated assault cruiser. Because ever since then i was wanting it to be flyable.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,481 Arc User
    WhizKids may be limiting it to in-store purchases to promote business with their Local Shops over big box stores or Amazon.

    Posters on these Forums poo-poo'd a Poster recently who complained about lack of news from Cryptic. Check the in-game Calendar including November. What do you see? Did you see 'Artifacts' listed? 'Hearts and Minds' on Halloween? What about that next Upgrade Weekend? Bonus Marks Weekend?

    Did you read the News Blog about the WhizKids Promotion and the specs of the ship and what it all meant? Nah, just let everyone speculate on what it is.
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    I was just think the same thing. That in game calendar is a shame, they dont keep that at all, whole blank months. They might as well just delete it.
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