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fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
Hello,
I cannot decide myself on which ship will i get between those 3 ships for my Roman Tactical Officer:
Please if someone would advise me, on which would be the best suited for my class and gameplay, it would be very nice ...
I don't like too much the Cruiser ship type (slow moving, turning), D'Khellra BattleCruiser type, it is the reason i didn't put it here

[bJ]hu'ael heavy escort carrier : [/b]
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jhu'ael_Tactical_Carrier_Warbird
I like the idea to be able to launch scorpion fighters, but i have read they can be stubborn to manage ...
There is also a pack of 3 Heavy escort carriers on the C-store, one for each classe...

Faeht Intel Warbird
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Faeht_Intel_Warbird
It look to be a very good ship, like the idea to be able to fire torpedo / repair while being cloaked, and the possibility to expose enemies...

Malem Light Warbird
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Faeht_Intel_Warbird
Wow fire until 6 torpedoes / repair / use bridge officers abilities while being cloaked... this one look strong...

Thanks in advance
Ced
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    Roman starships. Stone pillars and marble statues everywhere.
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    and ?
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  • hanover2hanover2 Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    I like the 1000 day destroyer better. Perfect BO and console layout, battle cloak and singularity abilities.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    The Malem has a great trait for Cannon Scatter Volley, the Jhu'ael has a nice trait for Beam Overload.

    All 3 have Lt. Commander Science if you like to use gravity well to clump up targets before you hit them with a torpedo spread or HYT

    I prefer intel boff powers to pilot, and the Faeht is a nice ship overall. They're all good, but I lean toward the Faeht.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    Here we have a Roman T6 Trireme in full combat regale
    roman-trireme.jpg

    And here we have a roman T6 Lake Nemi Dreadnaught carrier
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    which launches a full squad of roman river boats
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    And in a new roman flaored R&D pack they will release a roman freighter to compete with the tufflis and suliban ships

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    but dont expect alot more since cryptic hates klingons, romulans and romans :D
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    Sigh, @fced they are being witty about you saying "Roman" instead of "Romulan." Romulans are space Romans but are not called that.
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Wow, sorry about that guys !!! I didn't have even realized that... It is my stupid mac auto-spelling corrector which have striked again ;)

    Beside that, i like the Faeht too... It look great and would be my 2nd choice after the carrier...

    What about the Jhu'ael ? Is that true that the carrier pets, are not easy to manage ? I mean the topic i have read on forums are the pets are not always doing what you want they do...
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    The Malem has a great trait for Cannon Scatter Volley, the Jhu'ael has a nice trait for Beam Overload.

    All 3 have Lt. Commander Science if you like to use gravity well to clump up targets before you hit them with a torpedo spread or HYT

    I prefer intel boff powers to pilot, and the Faeht is a nice ship overall. They're all good, but I lean toward the Faeht.

    Since Cannon Scatter Volley is arguably better than Beam Overload in the current state of the game, I'd recommend the Malem or the Faeht. Faeth has better specialization abilities, I'd say. Both are decent ships and can be quite deadly.
    Here we have a Roman T6 Trireme in full combat regale
    roman-trireme.jpg

    I think I take this one.


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  • dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    The Jhu'ael Carrier Warbird is a fun ship, especially if you picked up the lower-tier Ar'Kif variants in giveaways (specifically, the tier 5 Ar'kif carrier, which comes with a console that enables Annihilation Mode and a Wave Motion Cannon). Two of my toons have T6 escort carriers as their primary ships and they're all pretty good escorts.

    If I may make a suggestion, the Morrigu, despite being part of the Battlecruiser bundle, is actually very agile tactical-type ship with Intel seating and a very good ship trait that improves Emergency Power to Weapons.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    fced wrote: »
    Wow, sorry about that guys !!! I didn't have even realized that... It is my stupid mac auto-spelling corrector which have striked again ;)

    Beside that, i like the Faeht too... It look great and would be my 2nd choice after the carrier...

    What about the Jhu'ael ? Is that true that the carrier pets, are not easy to manage ? I mean the topic i have read on forums are the pets are not always doing what you want they do...

    Pets can't keep up with full impulse, so they disappear on you when you move between cubes in a Borg Red Alert or between sites in a space battlezone.

    Pets do not always return for healing. Lowering speed to half impulse often works.

    Pet AI is not the best, and they like to take a close-up look at warp core explosions. That does not end well for them.

    I have fun flying full carriers (KDF T5, Breen event carrier) but I don't count on pets for much help with the escort carriers.
  • mikoto8472mikoto8472 Member Posts: 607 Arc User
    Just a word of warning about the Faeht I feel I should point out, OP.

    The Faeht has a paper-thin hull and only adequate shields. Unless you're an accomplished escort/tactical escort player whose main defence method is speed the Faeht might not be the ship for you. It wasn't for me, I couldn't handle the paper thin hull. Luckily I have a Lifer account ant the T6 Romulan veteran ship does better for me.

    I would recommend the Morrigu or the sci pilot ship really.
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    The Malem is the T6 version of the T'varro Refit. The T'varro Refit has the coveted Destabilized Plasma Torpedo console, one of the most devastating super weapons in the game (granted, most "super weapons" are sub-par, but the Mega Torpedo can actually live up to the hype). I can't recommend the Malem without the console from the T'varro Refit.

    If you just want an end-game ship that can throw science magic while cloaked, the Fleet Faeht or the Fleet T'varro [T6] will do just fine.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    mikoto8472 wrote: »
    Just a word of warning about the Faeht I feel I should point out, OP.

    The Faeht has a paper-thin hull and only adequate shields. Unless you're an accomplished escort/tactical escort player whose main defence method is speed the Faeht might not be the ship for you. It wasn't for me, I couldn't handle the paper thin hull. Luckily I have a Lifer account ant the T6 Romulan veteran ship does better for me.

    I would recommend the Morrigu or the sci pilot ship really.

    You can counter that with Command specialization (+15%? hull) or pilot spec temp HP on attack pattern beta, getting the Fleet Faeht after you get the C-Store (so you get the plasma lance console, fleet = no console, no mastery), with a tanky space set like Kobali, with the Samsar ship console if you have it, .... there are ways.
  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    Right now my Roman is flying the T6 Aelahl light battlecruiser, and im loving it. Turn rate of ten so Maneuvering is good, it has a good beefy hull so its nice and sturdy. With all the roman rep stuff its quite a shredder.
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Just one thing, i am playing on PS4, and now, we do not have Fleet ships, and T6 Morrigu are absent from the C-Store...
    My T5 Ships i got when i reached LV40 is an Ha'feh, and i just got an Ha'feh from the mirror universe, because i needed an 2nd Science bridge officer... The Ha'feh have only one...

    The only 4 T6 Ships we have are :
    - D'Khellra Warbird Battlecruiser
    - Faeht Intel Warbird
    - Malem light Warbird
    - Jhu'ael Heavy escort carrier Jhu'ael - this one is a very new ship, it came yesterday in the store (Exist in single ship, or 3 ships package, one for each faction)
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  • officerbatman81officerbatman81 Member Posts: 2,761 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Given the new info i would vote for malem, maybe dkhellra havent flown that one particularly it will be a slow tank.

    Beware, the Malem and the Faeht have enhanced battle cloaks having that can be a liabilty. Say you have cannons in front with one torpedo and want to cloak to escape death, when you cloak youll continue firing your torp and expose your position and draw fire and you will be a low health at times and get yourself killed. This applies to all torpedos even console ones such as the one on the malem.
    One way around this is to de-select your target when you cloak not to fire your torps, another is not to have torps on autofire, another is not to equip torps.
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    The T5 T'varro Light Warbird Retrofit is missing from the C-store? Really? That seems like a tragedy. The T5 has all the booms...
  • seriousxenoseriousxeno Member Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Having flown most of these, here's my assessment:

    Jhu'ael:

    This is one is very well rounded. It's agile enough, hits hard and still has just enough HP to survive something nasty coming your way (not always mind you, but for an escort-type warbird its tough).


    Faeht:


    Hits hard and intel powers are fun, both the ship ones and the BOFF stations. Enhanced Battlecloak is also a great benefit. But the the one reason I hardly play this now is:

    - very fragile
    - looks could be better (subjective of course)


    Malem:

    Mind you, I only ever had the T5 Fleet version of the T'varo, so my assessment isn't 100% accurate as a result. The T5 one was a blast to fly, the fun factor and handling compares to a Bird-of-Prey and enhanced battlecloak is a great benefit as always. It had good versatility, but not quite the same damage potential as some other warbirds (at T5!).

    So in conclusion:

    If you want intel powers, Faeht is the way.

    If you want fast speed and like flying raiders, take the Malem.

    If you have no idea which to take still, you can't go wrong with the Jhu'ael . It's the most well rounded warbird out of these IMO.
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  • bonzodog01bonzodog01 Member Posts: 147 Arc User
    I am actually having great fun with the Mirror Ha'feh. I know its only a T5, but it packs a punch. I would personally wait on the store releasing more of the PC ships. The Vastam Battlecruiser looks amazing and theres a light pilot escort ship that really looks the part and I suspect punches above its weight.

    Luckily, on console right now, theres no need for a competitive DPS race to get the absolute best, nor are there cookie-cutter FoTM's, as the end game content kind of ends after getting all your rep and doing all the quests. Theres only really the Borg PvE queue which doesn't require high DPS, and PvP so far is (at least on XBox) completely dead.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,497 Arc User
    OP, if you end up choosing the Malem then make sure you own the t'varo as well to make use of the Big red ball of Doom.
    A gravity Well and destabilized plasma torpedo is so much fun it ought to be illegal. :open_mouth:

    Making the most out of the enhanced battle cloak is something else completely. It is an unique kind of game play and completely different from cloak or battle cloak.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Personally.. I think that the T6 Morrigu Heavy Warbird is the best C-Store ship in the game.

    Why? Because it can fill any role and do anything you need it to do. From it's Bridge Officer Layout that features the highly desirable Intel seating to it's spectacular console layout, the ship can do it all. It's much tougher then the 'light warbirds' and with it's bundled console acting as a 'get outta jail free' card it's as durable as a full heavy cruiser. Despite it's toughness, it maintains cat like agility being suitable for single beams or narrow arc front firing weapons alike.

    As if that wasn't enough, it comes with one of the best traits in the entire game and it has the really nice visual look of the Mogai Heavy Warbird. About the only thing I wouldn't recommend this ship for is for a Science Heavy build or a Torpedo boat. For anything else, it can do what you want and do it better then most any ship in the game.

    It's a tough as nails ship that can put down damage on par with the most powerful ships available. It's honestly amazing.

    {EDIT} - Sorry, just saw the part about you being on PS4. They really need to separate the console and PC forum.. sorry about that. Honestly, if it were me, I would hold off on buying until the T6 Fleet ships and the Battlecruiser bundle were available, but that's just me.
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  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    In fact this T6 Ship would be my first C-Store ship, i am LV53, and i never bought any ship on the store...
    I was using a Ha'feh ship, but i got an Mirror universe Ha'feh from the Exchange because i needed an 2nd science officer slot...
    To be honest i didn't have understand all the subtleties of this game yet... ;)

    @ bonzodog01 : Will they release other ships from STO PC? And when ? i haven't found any info on this on twitter, or on Arcgames.com ...
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    When: Real Soon Now, that is sometime before xmas 2017. Cryptic is rolling out content in stages, no telling when that stage will be set.
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    Xmas 2017 ? we are in 2016 ... Was 2017 is far from one year 2 months ...
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  • tyrionjkirktyrionjkirk Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    The best Romulan ship is the T6 Morrigu Heavy Warbird. The ship is the perfect balance between escort and cruiser rype ship. You turn fast enough to run cannons with no problem at all but it is also amazing with beams. It has a Lt Com Uni / Int seat for OSS and it has the best star ship trait in the game Emergency Weapon Cycle. The ship can be purchased in a cross faction 3 pack which I recommend.
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Lol, we don't have this ship on PS4 :( Given the number of players which talk about this ship it should be nice...
    My choice would be now between the Faeht and the Jhu'ael ... I still not have decided myself on which i should take... I don't want to make a mistake with real money...
    Players say the Faeht is very fragile -2000 hull than the Malem...
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    What about the pilot warbirds?
  • fcedfced Member Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    We don't have it on the PS4 C-Store ...
    The only T6 Romulan ships on the PS4 C-Store are :
    - Faeht
    - Malem
    - Jhu'ael (New, came yesterday on the store)
    -D'kellhra

    PS : What is the cooldown of carrier pets ? And can we use any carrier pets on Heavy escort carrier (i have see some pets which can repair shields)
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,689 Arc User
    fced wrote: »
    Xmas 2017 ? we are in 2016 ... Was 2017 is far from one year 2 months ...

    I was kidding. No date at all has been given. "Real Soon Now" is something companies say that does not actually mean soon, it means some time before the heat death of the universe. Like when parents say "we'll see" ( = no ), or "maybe" ( = no ). Xmas 2017 is another bit of silliness since it is so far away.
  • dumas13dumas13 Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    fced wrote: »
    We don't have it on the PS4 C-Store ...
    The only T6 Romulan ships on the PS4 C-Store are :
    - Faeht
    - Malem
    - Jhu'ael (New, came yesterday on the store)
    -D'kellhra

    PS : What is the cooldown of carrier pets ? And can we use any carrier pets on Heavy escort carrier (i have see some pets which can repair shields)

    Carrier pet cooldown varies by pet, but tends to be on the order of 40 seconds between launches. You can launch more often with high Aux power, and there are a few other things that reduce cooldown. Most T6 carriers get reduced pet cooldown as one of their mastery perks.

    Heavy escort carriers can use any pet that's not restricted to specific carriers, so no frigates of any kind and no race-specific fighters like Breen or Jem'Hadar (actually, I don't think those are available on console, but it's something to bear in mind for later). Pet descriptions in the shop or inventory should lay out any restrictions they may have in red text between the name and stats.

    I personally favour Delta Fliers on my heavy escort carriers because they can use Tachyon Beam to soften up enemy shields and they're not quite so fragile as regular fighters. For me, the purpose of hanger pets is to give the AI something else to shoot at while you come in with the big weapons, maybe make them waste some AoE nastiness before you get into range.

    Which side is your Romulan allied with? That affects your pet selection if you decide to buy a Jhu'ael.
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