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how to end kelvin timeline

binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
in Star Trek Online General Discussion
so one specific vulcan scientist from 32nd century goes back to past kills nero and prevents vulcan distruction and kills kelvin timeline.
and we finally get post nemesis star trek.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.

    And to do that, they'd have to go really far back in time to stop Sela from upsetting the Iconians.
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  • misterferengi#8959 misterferengi
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    Just go back to when JJ was announced to direct Star Trek 09 and send him to a galaxy far far away so he could concentrate on killing that universe earlier instead of Star Trek's :)
  • talientalien Member Posts: 712 Arc User
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.

    And to do that, they'd have to go really far back in time to stop Sela from upsetting the Iconians.

    Just make sure Tasha Yar actually dies like she was supposed to when she went to that alternate reality and Sela is never born to begin with.
  • doubleohninedoubleohnine Member Posts: 818 Arc User
    Is it safe to say that the WORST command decision Picard ever made was letting Tasha go back with the C? We love him for making decisions with his heart, but that one decision has been too dear a cost.

    Or was not sending Hugh back to destroy the Borg the worst decision?
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    talien wrote: »
    snoggymack22 wrote: »
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.

    And to do that, they'd have to go really far back in time to stop Sela from upsetting the Iconians.

    Just make sure Tasha Yar actually dies like she was supposed to when she went to that alternate reality and Sela is never born to begin with.

    But that's a Tasha Yar from a different universe/timeline. That's the Castillo Timeline. Our Picard, PRIME Picard, no longer had a Tasha Yar as she was long dead.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.
    it would fix. kelvin timeline starts with nero's timetravel. if you you can prevent that you kill kelvin timeline.

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  • storulesstorules Member Posts: 3,315 Arc User
    It looked like it ended in 2409:

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10159922-star-trek-online-timeline

    Then again it is just a common point between the alternate and original universe as it continues to divide in the next centuries...they did leave plenty of material to cover among a millennia...smart from CBS.​​
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    To end the Kelvin timeline...don't play the mission where you stop the spherebuilders from destroying it.
  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    coolbatman wrote: »
    i'd use the 'guardian of forever' to fix the (fake) kelvin timeline out of existence, or i'd send a call out to Q to fix it........hows that,stick that in the ole hooka and smoke it........

    Q won't do it. He's already appeared in the new Star Trek comic and made friends with Chris Pine's Captain Kirk. He likes the Kelvin timeline.

    Anyways, question: What's the fake Kelvin Timeline? Is there some other kelvin timeline out there?
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    with the campiest song and dance number ever... just to see the fan rage.

    if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,273 Arc User
    Would it cancel it out or create another alternate universe?
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  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    By stopping Sela from TRIBBLE with the Iconians, you would only ensure that humans start worshipping a god emperor, the Klingons being wiped out by the arrogant Vulcans who become heralds of the Iconians embroiled in a roiling intergalactic war between Andromeda and Iconia, leading to the ultimate destruction of subspace from the psionic turmoil of all those dying Vulcans.

    Its a terribly grim and dark timeline where THERE IS ONLY WAR. I sure don't want to live THERE.

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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    thay8472 wrote: »
    Would it cancel it out or create another alternate universe?

    fusion both timelines somehow creating bollywood trek?


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  • tm706tm706 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    Why are we trying to kill off the single greatest part of Star Trek again ?
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    tm706 wrote: »
    Why are we trying to kill off the single greatest part of Star Trek again ?

    to create something the purist would hate even more?


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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    nightken wrote: »
    tm706 wrote: »
    Why are we trying to kill off the single greatest part of Star Trek again ?

    to create something the purist would hate even more?

    Oh please. TNG got them frothing enough. I'm sure they even hate TOS reruns for not being how they originally remember them.​​
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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    nightken wrote: »
    tm706 wrote: »
    Why are we trying to kill off the single greatest part of Star Trek again ?

    to create something the purist would hate even more?

    Oh please. TNG got them frothing enough. I'm sure they even hate TOS reruns for not being how they originally remember them.​​

    true but that doesn't mean we can't see just mad we can get them before they just stop caring.


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  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    HOW TO END KELVIN TIMELINE
    Stop going to see the movies, they become unprofitable and stop making them... boom done
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    tacofangs wrote: »
    STO isn't canon, and neither are any of the books.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,409 Arc User
    I was wondering where the "I hate JJ Trek, kill it!" threads went for a while. (No) Thanks for making another.

    I guess Beyond had a temporary "hey, you know, it's not bad, actually" effect on the people.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,940 Community Moderator
    saurializard wrote: »
    I was wondering where the "I hate JJ Trek, kill it!" threads went for a while. (No) Thanks for making another.

    I guess Beyond had a temporary "hey, you know, it's not bad, actually" effect on the people.

    Yea... it felt more like an episode of TOS, which porbably helped.

    As for "killing" the Kelvin Timeline... what right does anyone have to decide which reality is "real" and which is "fake"? To the inhabitants of any given reality, their reality is the real one. The Kelvin Timeline is just as real as the Prime Timeline and just as real as the Mirror Universe.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,991 Arc User
    Why does the Kelvin timeline need to end?

    It appears to be supporting the franchise.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    Go back in time Wipe Bajor from the Map, no Bajorans, then no Wormhole, without the wormhole, there is no Dominion War, without the War, The Federation, and Klingons are able to keep the Romulans in check, also Voyager never goes to the the Delta Quadrant because DS9 is never there, and without the Bajorans no Maquis , because Caradassia can't fight the Federation without the resources from Bajor, so no Cardassian Federation Wars....Eventually the Klingons will conquer Romulus, because they never had to recover from the Dominion, and they need battle at this point....yeah Romulus has sickness and stuff, but at least it's not blown up, and without that, no nero, no Borg Romulan mining ship going to the past.

    So once again, Bajor messes everything up.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,940 Community Moderator
    thlaylierah wrote: »
    Why does the Kelvin timeline need to end?

    It appears to be supporting the franchise.

    Because people can't get over the fact it is different, and therefor evil.
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Go back in time Wipe Bajor from the Map, no Bajorans, then no Wormhole, without the wormhole, there is no Dominion War, without the War, The Federation, and Klingons are able to keep the Romulans in check, also Voyager never goes to the the Delta Quadrant because DS9 is never there, and without the Bajorans no Maquis , because Caradassia can't fight the Federation without the resources from Bajor, so no Cardassian Federation Wars....Eventually the Klingons will conquer Romulus, because they never had to recover from the Dominion, and they need battle at this point....yeah Romulus has sickness and stuff, but at least it's not blown up, and without that, no nero, no Borg Romulan mining ship going to the past.

    So once again, Bajor messes everything up.

    No... I'm pretty sure the Bajorans didn't make the wormhole. An ancient non coporial species did, therefor the wormhole exists independant of Bajor. The fact the Bajorans find religious significance in it doesn't factor into it.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.

    Actually, no. STO is post Nemesis Star Trek fanfiction. It has a bigger budget and a wider audience than some teen writing Star Trek fanfiction in their basement, but it is just as canon as that teen's fanfiction especially with Star Trek's insistence on the Many Worlds Theory. Post Nemesis Star Trek requires a TV series or movie set after Nemesis.

    As far as fixing the problem, there is no need. The Kelvin Universe is in its own parallel universe. What happens in the Kelvin Universe has absolutely nothing to do with the Prime Universe. For all we know, Spock and Romulus still exist in the Prime Universe and there was no Hobus Supernova. It could have been STO's Spock and Nero in Star Trek 2009 not Prime Universe's Spock and Nero. After all, STO's lore has Spock and Nero disappear and there is references to the Narada, Hobus Supernova, and Jellyfish.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    "We are of Bajor"

    The Wormhole was there for centuries, and they never found it, if there is no planet, no one is going to bother looking for the wormhole

    Also I'm pretty sure the Aliens are bajorans from the future who have become non corporal , hence why they don't care about time anymore, and keep saying they are of bajor, and picked a Star Fleet officer as their emissary to guide them to join the Federation, and survive the Dominion.


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  • lighte007lighte007 Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    Great, I hate the Prophets wish we could just nuke every single thing that the Prophets tainted... they probably tainted the Kelvin Timeline...
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    starkaos wrote: »
    scififan78 wrote: »
    STO is post Nemesis Star Trek.

    Besides, killing Nero wont fix the problem that caused him to go mad. To truly fix the issue, the time traveling Vulcan needs to go back in time to stop the Hobus Supernova.

    Actually, no. STO is post Nemesis Star Trek fanfiction. It has a bigger budget and a wider audience than some teen writing Star Trek fanfiction in their basement, but it is just as canon as that teen's fanfiction especially with Star Trek's insistence on the Many Worlds Theory. Post Nemesis Star Trek requires a TV series or movie set after Nemesis.

    As far as fixing the problem, there is no need. The Kelvin Universe is in its own parallel universe. What happens in the Kelvin Universe has absolutely nothing to do with the Prime Universe. For all we know, Spock and Romulus still exist in the Prime Universe and there was no Hobus Supernova. It could have been STO's Spock and Nero in Star Trek 2009 not Prime Universe's Spock and Nero. After all, STO's lore has Spock and Nero disappear and there is references to the Narada, Hobus Supernova, and Jellyfish.

    If it happened on screen it happened, Spock is dead, both in and out of Trek
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