My hope of a T6 Nova this side of christmas have been dashed; the fact that a T5 Escort (Steamrunner) was higher on the priorty list than the Nova is a good indication of how far down the 'list' it must be.
your hopes may be restored Reyan the people on tribble have found some updates to the Nebula consoles which could hint at a future T6 ship soon check out the reddit.
your hopes may be restored Reyan the people on tribble have found some updates to the Nebula consoles which could hint at a future T6 ship soon check out the reddit.
Say whaaaaaaaaaat ?
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
My hope of a T6 Nova this side of christmas have been dashed; the fact that a T5 Escort (Steamrunner) was higher on the priorty list than the Nova is a good indication of how far down the 'list' it must be.
your hopes may be restored Reyan the people on tribble have found some updates to the Nebula consoles which could hint at a future T6 ship soon check out the reddit.
No, that just means the Nova is even further out because there are now at least two potential ship candidates that need to be released before it.
And it's still very speculative. I coudn't even identify if there was an actual difference on the tooltip. I guess the set bonus is new? Maybe it's just a hint for something that exists on consoles but not on PC yet?
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No, that just means the Nova is even further out because there are now at least two potential ship candidates that need to be released before it.
And it's still very speculative. I coudn't even identify if there was an actual difference on the tooltip. I guess the set bonus is new? Maybe it's just a hint for something that exists on consoles but not on PC yet?
It says "any advanced research vessel" - this happened to the Exploration Cruiser shortly before it's T6 announcement. It is possible that they just reworked the tooltip to shorten it, but in the past these changes only happened prior to a T6 announcement
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
Is the only reason anyone's interested in the Nova class because it was in Endgame, the first part of which was set at the same time period as that which STO is set?
Personally, I don't get it. I'm not interested in the Nova any more than the Intrepid- unless you're seriously into sci powers, sci ships simply suck.
On the other hand, I'm naturallyvery interested in a T6 Sovereign. The imperial skin on that thing is freaking badass- they should give it a 5-3 layout but retain the restriction against DHCs on cruisers. That's the best way of distinguishing it from other cruisers that I can think of.
Is the only reason anyone's interested in the Nova class because it was in Endgame, the first part of which was set at the same time period as that which STO is set?
Personally, I don't get it. I'm not interested in the Nova any more than the Intrepid- unless you're seriously into sci powers, sci ships simply suck.
Unless you're really into engineering powers, cruisers suck. Unlses you're really into tactical powers, escorts suck!
Science Vessels are awesome. Space Magic is fun.
But I suspect you might be in a majority opinion. Seems Space Wizards are not the most popular. But we're trying to be the most vocal here, so pssht. Also, we already have approximately a gazillion Cruisers. (And way too many are Command Cruisers. They really need to invent a new spec that also works thematically for Cruisers. After they've made more Science vessels.)
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No, that just means the Nova is even further out because there are now at least two potential ship candidates that need to be released before it.
And it's still very speculative. I coudn't even identify if there was an actual difference on the tooltip. I guess the set bonus is new? Maybe it's just a hint for something that exists on consoles but not on PC yet?
It says "any advanced research vessel" - this happened to the Exploration Cruiser shortly before it's T6 announcement. It is possible that they just reworked the tooltip to shorten it, but in the past these changes only happened prior to a T6 announcement
Yeah, why bother re-writing the tooltip at all if you're not changing it?
I'm pretty sure this 'list' of old ships just waiting to be re-sold at T6's exists only in the minds of players. They have rather a lot of other things to look after like entirely new T6 ships to populate new missions and stuff into lock boxes. The T6 Sovereign looks less like a list incrementing and much more like a target of opportunity created when the Attack Wing people wanted to test out their new painting process.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Is the only reason anyone's interested in the Nova class because it was in Endgame, the first part of which was set at the same time period as that which STO is set?
Personally, I don't get it. I'm not interested in the Nova any more than the Intrepid- unless you're seriously into sci powers, sci ships simply suck.
On the other hand, I'm naturallyvery interested in a T6 Sovereign. The imperial skin on that thing is freaking badass- they should give it a 5-3 layout but retain the restriction against DHCs on cruisers. That's the best way of distinguishing it from other cruisers that I can think of.
The Nova class' first appearance was in 'Equinox'. The USS Rhode Island seen in 'Endgame' was a refit of the class.
As for the rest of your statement, I could simply re-word your (extremely subjective) comments to: Personally, I don't get it. I'm not interested in the Sovereign any more than the Odyssey - there are more than enough cruisers to choose from. Crusiers suck.
On the other hand, I'm naturallyvery interested in a T6 Nova. The Rhode Island skin on that thing is freaking badass- they should give it the standard 3-3 layout but add auxiliary phaser beam arrays and the pilot specialisation. That's the best way of distinguishing it from other science ships that I can think of.
Without meaning to sound insulting, saying what basically amounts to "your favorite ship sucks but my favourite ship is awesome" is a tad naïve. And science doesn't suck just because you don't like it.
Heck, I'd wager that a decent player who really knows how to fly a Nova class (probably not me) could show you a trick or two. And trust me - whilst it may not hit as hard as the Sovereign it'll run rings around it in terms of manouverability and you'd probably be surprised at what a little minx she can be.
I'm perfectly well aware that the first appearance of the Nova was in Equinox, my point was that the Rhode Island was in service about 5 years after the events of STO, so chronologically it's the closest fit and just about the only glimpse of ship design from that period.
It should be pointed out that in Equinox, that ship actually did suck compared to Voyager, even taking into account its battle-damaged state. As a result, the devs are going to have an extremely difficult job of balancing any T6 Nova against the current Long Range Science Vessel, since if they're going to stay true to the show then by definition the Nova must be inferior. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't since there will be backlash from either the Nova fans or Intrepid ones. So if I have no interest in the Intrepid, why would I shell out for a ship that's by all indication likely to be worse?
You could reword it that way but it wouldn't make any sense- feel free to point out where I said there were more than enough sci ships knocking around. Had I mentioned a ship that wasn't relevant to the discussion you might have a point. Though your idea of giving the ship pilot specialisation might actually work- it's already the right size and shape. Having that thing perform barrel rolls would certainly add a novelty factor. Give it a special console to boost speed and turn rate further and you might have something worthwhile.
I could see them updating the heavy cruiser/Cheyenne/Dakota/Stargazer class to a tier six, and giving it a pilot Lieutenant to lieutenant com seat as it already with it's quite compact styled design. An quite happy to hear they are making a tier six advanced science vessel, though I could see it getting a command and/or temporal seating.
Another odd thing I noticed is that the tooltip is labeled "Starfleet" advanced research vessel.
You're the second worse .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
If only there was still a leaks website that I could visit. Fracking Traitors, ruining all my fun.
I agree. But signs are pretty clear at this point, unless they decide to change the T3 Nebula console completely into a "Tachyon Field Particle Emitter" it is a new console and it's reasonable to assume it comes with a new ship.
Then again, it's also reasonable to assume they change the T3 console, because it's really useless. It does the same as the T5 console, only worse. In general, the Nebula's consoles and set bonus (according to Reddit derived from Tribble, it's a tiny +acc and drain expertise) are in STOs current state the most useless you can think of. But us Nebula lovers love her not because of her console
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
"No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
(And way too many are Command Cruisers. They really need to invent a new spec that also works thematically for Cruisers. After they've made more Science vessels.)
I always figured the Strategist specialization would make for a good cruiser themed spec if (when) they elevate it to a primary.
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I started to rageeeee then I realized it was sarcasm
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hahahahaha hell yeas but on worse ..........like......kahnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!
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No, that just means the Nova is even further out because there are now at least two potential ship candidates that need to be released before it.
And it's still very speculative. I coudn't even identify if there was an actual difference on the tooltip. I guess the set bonus is new? Maybe it's just a hint for something that exists on consoles but not on PC yet?
It says "any advanced research vessel" - this happened to the Exploration Cruiser shortly before it's T6 announcement. It is possible that they just reworked the tooltip to shorten it, but in the past these changes only happened prior to a T6 announcement
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Personally, I don't get it. I'm not interested in the Nova any more than the Intrepid- unless you're seriously into sci powers, sci ships simply suck.
On the other hand, I'm naturallyvery interested in a T6 Sovereign. The imperial skin on that thing is freaking badass- they should give it a 5-3 layout but retain the restriction against DHCs on cruisers. That's the best way of distinguishing it from other cruisers that I can think of.
Science Vessels are awesome. Space Magic is fun.
But I suspect you might be in a majority opinion. Seems Space Wizards are not the most popular. But we're trying to be the most vocal here, so pssht. Also, we already have approximately a gazillion Cruisers. (And way too many are Command Cruisers. They really need to invent a new spec that also works thematically for Cruisers. After they've made more Science vessels.)
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Interesting because the other item is not the T3 console.
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@angrytarg it's your fault.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I'm perfectly well aware that the first appearance of the Nova was in Equinox, my point was that the Rhode Island was in service about 5 years after the events of STO, so chronologically it's the closest fit and just about the only glimpse of ship design from that period.
It should be pointed out that in Equinox, that ship actually did suck compared to Voyager, even taking into account its battle-damaged state. As a result, the devs are going to have an extremely difficult job of balancing any T6 Nova against the current Long Range Science Vessel, since if they're going to stay true to the show then by definition the Nova must be inferior. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't since there will be backlash from either the Nova fans or Intrepid ones. So if I have no interest in the Intrepid, why would I shell out for a ship that's by all indication likely to be worse?
You could reword it that way but it wouldn't make any sense- feel free to point out where I said there were more than enough sci ships knocking around. Had I mentioned a ship that wasn't relevant to the discussion you might have a point. Though your idea of giving the ship pilot specialisation might actually work- it's already the right size and shape. Having that thing perform barrel rolls would certainly add a novelty factor. Give it a special console to boost speed and turn rate further and you might have something worthwhile.
Another odd thing I noticed is that the tooltip is labeled "Starfleet" advanced research vessel.
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You're the second worse
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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What if... What if this means they're doing science ships for the other two factions?!
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Don't get too excited.
If only there was still a leaks website that I could visit.
I agree. But signs are pretty clear at this point, unless they decide to change the T3 Nebula console completely into a "Tachyon Field Particle Emitter" it is a new console and it's reasonable to assume it comes with a new ship.
Then again, it's also reasonable to assume they change the T3 console, because it's really useless. It does the same as the T5 console, only worse. In general, the Nebula's consoles and set bonus (according to Reddit derived from Tribble, it's a tiny +acc and drain expertise) are in STOs current state the most useless you can think of. But us Nebula lovers love her not because of her console
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