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  • nightkennightken Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    If anyone believes anything Geko says, then you also believe the Titanic is unsinkable and the Moon is made of hollow cheese with aliens watching and waiting for us to turn our backs so they can eat our socks.​​

    I have one question then. where do socks go? no really something causes socks to disappear never to be seen again if not aliens then what? :p


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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    and in their tongue, they call fuel 'Mizzoozoo'

    (if anyone can figure out THAT reference, i'll be truly impressed)​​
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    I don't believe anything Al Rivera says. That's why I get my information from mentally unhinged STO forum posters with bad spelling and grammar.​​
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  • kamuii2kamuii2 Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    and in their tongue, they call fuel 'Mizzoozoo'

    (if anyone can figure out THAT reference, i'll be truly impressed)​​

    lol nice mwa ref. been a long time since i last heard that one lol.
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    damn...and here i thought i was the only one here who had ever watched married with children​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"


    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    If anyone believes anything Geko says, then you also believe the Titanic is unsinkable and the Moon is made of hollow cheese with aliens watching and waiting for us to turn our backs so they can eat our socks.​​

    I just booked passage on the unsinkable titanic, and i just ordered some cheese from the moon, those alien chaps were really nice and even delivered to my house, so thats where all my socks went :D
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    damn...and here i thought i was the only one here who had ever watched married with children

    Al Bundy is my kindred spirit.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    If anyone believes anything Geko says, then you also believe the Titanic is unsinkable and the Moon is made of hollow cheese with aliens watching and waiting for us to turn our backs so they can eat our socks.​​
    actually, they take the socks for fuel​​
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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    While I look at this with a bit of an angry face from a player point of view :# Trying to look at it from Cryptics point a view and it seems legit. They have a small team, limited resources, deadlines, quotas and revenue points to meet. What helps them make the game as fun as possible while meeting all those demands? Well, something like what Geko said. I have to say that Geko has said some things that I don't like. His comments a while back on Groundzones " they are too expensive!" seem ridiculous when you look at them now and see that they have placed arguable one of the most wanted ships in Star Trek lore ( or at least a version of it) in one their damn " luckboxes ".

    Ground zones are expensive because you have to develop them so that players have a reason to stay on them for more than one mission. Nimbus worked because you had 4-5 missions spread out over one large map. Kobali worked because you had an ongoing war with the Vaadwaur and you were learning more about the Kobali. Voth battlezone works as a large zone since you're working to capture all the zones from the voth before they take the omega for their own usage. New Romulus sort of worked because you had stuff to complete there but unlocking it through the reputation was initially a pain.
    I just don't understand WHY they don't utilize assets that are already in the damn game! Nimbus III for example,,, a beautiful map that is level 25? COME ON!!!!! During the Iconian war Arc they could have had an event, or even a Que where the Iconians invade nimbus looking for some sacred artifact or something, and we have to stop them. I cant believe THAT would have been " too expensive".
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    The problem with the Iconian War has to do with what they had on the schedule. Let's actually start from When they started on LoR. At the time they started, they were releasing Season 7, which they released saying 'here's a new group of Romulans. Have fun with them.' They had the story planned out that they would introduce the New Romulans and then eventually expand to tell how they came to be. This started as Season 8 but eventually ballooned into the Expansion, which went from them to talking about Season 8 and what we could expect, to them shutting up until March 2013 when LoR was announced.

    Fast forward to LoR's launch on tribble. As they were starting this, they were starting on the next part of the story which would take us from dealing with the Voth in an iconian Dyson Sphere, to the return of the Undine and subsequent knowledge of the Iconians pulling the strings with them, to having the story lead straight into Delta Rising, once again dealing with the Vaadwaur. By the time they released Delta Rising to tribble, the next phase of the story was being worked on with the Iconian War and what would happen post Iconian War, they needed to plan ahead for the 50th anniversary, which would eventually be the Temporal stuff we see. Because of the scheduling, they really didn't have the time to stop and say 'we need to have something that will actually feel like there's an ongoing threat of war.'
    I don't like the amount of control over the game that Geko seems to have. This game has producers and an executive producer, so why are we always hearing this sort of stuff from the " lead ship designer". Something doesn't seem right.

    FYI, the reason why Geko has the amount of control that he has over the game is because he's the LEAD DESIGNER, not a LEAD SHIP DESIGNER. He sets out what so and so has to be during the given season or expansion, down to the Leads that report to him, such as the character lead or the environmental lead and so on. Geko would meet with the producers who say this is what we want the focus of this season/expansion and how much time we have to plan it. Anytime he's asked about something that could be done, he's talking about how he would have it handled as the Lead Designer.

    Now, getting back to the topic, making new playable factions for the game only would make sense if they had enough to go on them. Between TNG and DS9, the Ferengi have enough information about them known to create an almost viable minifaction in my opinion, but I don't think you could really add them to the game that would make the most sense with the current story. What profit would be seen in fighting wars themselves? What makes them right to fight against the Voth/Vaadwaur/2800 Dominion ships?

    A Cardassian faction I think if they wanted to do it could start maybe at Captain and give them a unique tutorial and storyline starting around level 30 before they are let loose into the cross faction storylines. They would need to have their own faction ships built for each specialization though since I can't see them using federation ships for that (Romulans got their own ships).

    A Dominion faction I could not really see doing since I could not figure out where they would begin nor what you'd do about their faction ships since a majority of them from cannon are prize ships already.

    As for a Borg Cooperative faction (which is a major want), I could see them getting an expansion of the Delta Quadrant if we were to have them introduced, especially since we don't see them doing too much interaction between the other species until we have more contact with them. There would have to be a good explanation for how they show up to do some reputations (New Romulus, Dyson and Undine reputations chronologically take place before they are formally introduced as a political group of the Delta Alliance. Obviously though they could have two major enemies in the game with the Borg and the Octannti (due to their hatred of any borg).


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  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    this is quite understandable. this game can't handle an other full faction. if the number of kdf/rom players is low, I can imagine easily that the number of players of a cardassian faction would be very very low.

    I personally prefer that they continue to add stuff for the current factions, and add endgame contents (exploration or something). after lvl60, STO is just boring, we have nothing to do. all the systems (r&d, admiralty etc ..) are interesting 5 minutes, just the time to launch missions or projects.

    Maybe the gamma quadrant could be open for missions, but that's all. They can't keep the game in its current state forever. I mean always the same stfs (most of them are empty), nothing after lvl60 (except the FE missions - 1 per month-!).

    More and more ships are added in game, but for what purpose (except for $). I bought 1 new ship for my fed tac, I thought that it would add something more to this character. But, finally, I was again in front of the same situation, always the same thing to do. He spent most of time in k7, I launched r&d projects and admiralty missions, and I was too bored to try to do the same stfs again, again, again. finally, I deleted this toon. (same thing for my other fed).

    I want to play with my toons and my ships, not stay in front of exchange console or move sliders all the time.

    Cryptic should put their efforts in endgame contents, if they want to keep players connected long time and durably: interesting for the metrics.
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    I mentioned it in another thread, but the Deferi would be a excellent choice for a subfaction and I am fairly sure that was the original plan with them. Back when the war was still a topic, the "balance" theme had made sense so they fight for both sides but also push for peace until we have the alliance in the endgame. Their ships and technologies would have been hybrid tech from both factions, forming a middle ground. And most importantly it would be original, uncharted content and not rehashes of show episodes over and over.​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    iconians wrote: »
    I don't believe anything Al Rivera says. That's why I get my information from mentally unhinged STO forum posters with bad spelling and grammar.​​

    It's the only way to be sure.

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    The thing to remember is - Geko has been around since the start of the game, in the very position he is in. Before it was even in Beta, when it was still in a conceptual phase.

    Everything you hate about this game? It's Geko's fault. He ordered it done, he allowed it to be done.
    Everything you love about this game? It's Geko's fault. He ordered it done, he allowed it to be done.

    The game is still around after all this time. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't on such a bad track after all.
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    Sometimes I just don't know what planet Geko is on.

    LoR had 24 unique missions (including a tutorial) from level 1-30, ships and uniforms.

    ToS has 6 unique tutorial missions from 1-10, and a sector block that you can't return to once you've completed the tutorial.
    Nothing else is unique to the faction, as it is just an alternative starting area for normal Fed characters.

    If this is all you're capable of doing in creating a "new" faction, I would rather you forget it and concentrate on the KDF and Romulan factions you already neglect..

    It is kind of sad when you think about it, as we went from LoR being one of the best things to happen to this game, to AoY being possibly the worst..

    Yeah....Starting to wonder what planet he is on as well....'at least as much as the romulan faction' and now the stuff that was posted on the first page....claiming jem'hadar was a possible mini faction....despite the fact that cryptic is adamant about not doing the 'bad guy' factions, which in this case it would have to be because they literally couldn't be anything else
    I suspect that mr chaos doesn't actually understand the command structure that the devs use...

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  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    this is quite understandable. this game can't handle an other full faction. if the number of kdf/rom players is low, I can imagine easily that the number of players of a cardassian faction would be very very low.

    I personally prefer that they continue to add stuff for the current factions, and add endgame contents (exploration or something). after lvl60, STO is just boring, we have nothing to do. all the systems (r&d, admiralty etc ..) are interesting 5 minutes, just the time to launch missions or projects.

    Maybe the gamma quadrant could be open for missions, but that's all. They can't keep the game in its current state forever. I mean always the same stfs (most of them are empty), nothing after lvl60 (except the FE missions - 1 per month-!).

    More and more ships are added in game, but for what purpose (except for $). I bought 1 new ship for my fed tac, I thought that it would add something more to this character. But, finally, I was again in front of the same situation, always the same thing to do. He spent most of time in k7, I launched r&d projects and admiralty missions, and I was too bored to try to do the same stfs again, again, again. finally, I deleted this toon. (same thing for my other fed).

    I want to play with my toons and my ships, not stay in front of exchange console or move sliders all the time.

    Cryptic should put their efforts in endgame contents, if they want to keep players connected long time and durably: interesting for the metrics.

    Well, to be fair, they did move the endgame goal posts multiple times throughout the years.

    Pre-Season 2: STFs and Fleet Actions were the major endgame.
    Season 2-Season 5: Episodes added to pad out leveling content for Feds and Klingons.
    Season 6 & 7: Nukara prime added, Fleet Actions added, New Romulus added, Tau Dewa, Tholian Red Alert, Omega Reputation added, 1 new episode added
    LoR: Nukara Reputation, Nimbus mid level adventure zone, Episodes padded for Klingons so they have more content to level with, 1 episode pre-season 8 added.
    Season 8: Dyson Reputation & Battlezone, queued events, 1 episode post level 50 added.
    Season 9: Undine reputation, Battlezone and queued events, 1 episode added with launch, crafting update.
    Delta Rising: Goal post moved to level 60, new arc to pad out that content, New battlezone, reputation, queued events to supplement content, 3 additional episodes added to advance story to season 10ish.
    Season 10: New reputation, new queued content and 7 new episodes extending the story post level 60.
    Season 11: New episodes with existing level 50-60 episodes reduced to better fit a leveling curve, new queued events, new battlezone, new reputation, new red alert
    AoY: new queued content, new reputation, new specialization, new missions for Future Proof and new arc for leveling along side the existing episodes, probably more stuff coming as well.

    What they actually do need to do is to give us something in the game that we cannot easily complete in a month's time or that we don't get bored of playing at endgame. If we start getting bored 3 months after a new release, give us something that will be fun and last us for that long and we don't get bored while something new comes out.

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  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    reputations are not really enjoyable, again and again the same stfs. + except the voth bz, the others battlezone are really boring, and copy-paste.

    episodes are good, but when they are done, well we have nothing to do.
    How about an actual exploration system with randomly generated missions? :wink:

    that was my thought.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    sophlogimo wrote: »
    How about an actual exploration system with randomly generated missions? :wink:

    That's nonsense. But how about that, a mission where we fly through hoops and chase Spock's brain so the Borg don't catch it?​​
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    claiming jem'hadar was a possible mini faction....despite the fact that cryptic is adamant about not doing the 'bad guy' factions, which in this case it would have to be because they literally couldn't be anything else
    That is a hilariously limited view on the Jem'Hadar(wow an STO forum poster with an unrealistically limited view on the world.... who would have thought!)

    As we have seen in the current storyline, The Dominion joins the Galactic Union in the future. The Dominion are not inherently evil and unable to be worked with in a friendly manner. As we saw at the end of the Iconian war, the threat of a greater evil is enough to get them to work with us.

    1. There is no evidence that the dominion joined the galactic union, its never actually stated how many of the major powers are members of it: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Galactic_Union read it. Note the 'are all present to witness the signing of the Temporal Accords; whether they are all members of the Union is unconfirmed' part. They are major powers, it stands to reason they would be present. Not inviting them could lead to a very pissed off dominion.

    2. 'Hilariously limited view?' Take your ignorant insults and belittling somewhere else. Does it need to be explained to you that the jem'hadar have literally no reason to exist beyond fighting and killing people? Its not a 'limited view' to state blatant facts. They are literally nothing more than expendable meat shields. They are as bad guy as factions get in this game, they're right up there with the romulan empire. and remember why we didn't get them? Because cryptic doesn't use the bad guys as playable factions.

    3. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Aside from the fact that the entire idea of the dominion having provided any assistance at all is a blatant retcon - as they specifically said not to come begging for help from them when the iconians showed up, because the safest way to deal with them was not to, any action would be in their best interests not ours. Remember how working with the borg against a common enemy worked out in the end? Remember how the americans sided with the chinese in WW2 against japan? Well they were shooting at each other 5 years later in korea. and that allied-soviet alliance against the germans didn't exactly end well either. The point is, fighting against a common enemy does not make you any less of a future enemy
    That's nonsense. But how about that, a mission where we fly through hoops and chase Spock's brain so the Borg don't catch it?

    Don't give them ideas. We're already half way there with that delta flight mission
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Cardassians/Dominion should have been the next faction, instead they played to the TOS fans, and to a lesser extent the Kelvin Timeline fans.

    I've posted this before, but it applies here too; you are only thinking in terms of existing players. This expansion is as much about generating NEW interest in STO as anything else. Yes there are elements within that (some would argue attempt) to keep the existing playerbase happy, but when it all boils down to it - it's the 50th anniversary of the franchise, with all the exposure and advertising opportunities that come with such an occasion.

    Just look at what is 'out there' that could draw new players in at this very moment in time:

    New movie due out this month
    New series in the pipeline
    Various fan-made productions either released or in production
    Various conventions etc to celebrate the anniversary
    And the actual anniversary itself, which is VERY likely to receive attention in the media.

    Sorry, like it or not, this is a marketing opportunity like no other. Hopefully those who want the Cardassians/Dominion will get them at some point, but the 50th anniversary really isn't the time.

    There will be no further fan films thanks to cbs/paramount.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Cardassians/Dominion should have been the next faction, instead they played to the TOS fans, and to a lesser extent the Kelvin Timeline fans.
    I've posted this before, but it applies here too; you are only thinking in terms of existing players. This expansion is as much about generating NEW interest in STO as anything else. Yes there are elements within that (some would argue attempt) to keep the existing playerbase happy, but when it all boils down to it - it's the 50th anniversary of the franchise, with all the exposure and advertising opportunities that come with such an occasion.

    Just look at what is 'out there' that could draw new players in at this very moment in time:

    New movie due out this month
    New series in the pipeline
    Various fan-made productions either released or in production
    Various conventions etc to celebrate the anniversary
    And the actual anniversary itself, which is VERY likely to receive attention in the media.

    Sorry, like it or not, this is a marketing opportunity like no other. Hopefully those who want the Cardassians/Dominion will get them at some point, but the 50th anniversary really isn't the time.
    There will be no further fan films thanks to cbs/paramount.
    I know - new guidelines and all that; but there are some already out there, on Youtube etc (though I guess it's questionable whether they'll remain).
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    lordgyor wrote: »
    Cardassians/Dominion should have been the next faction, instead they played to the TOS fans, and to a lesser extent the Kelvin Timeline fans.

    I've posted this before, but it applies here too; you are only thinking in terms of existing players. This expansion is as much about generating NEW interest in STO as anything else. Yes there are elements within that (some would argue attempt) to keep the existing playerbase happy, but when it all boils down to it - it's the 50th anniversary of the franchise, with all the exposure and advertising opportunities that come with such an occasion.

    Just look at what is 'out there' that could draw new players in at this very moment in time:

    New movie due out this month
    New series in the pipeline
    Various fan-made productions either released or in production
    Various conventions etc to celebrate the anniversary
    And the actual anniversary itself, which is VERY likely to receive attention in the media.

    Sorry, like it or not, this is a marketing opportunity like no other. Hopefully those who want the Cardassians/Dominion will get them at some point, but the 50th anniversary really isn't the time.

    There will be no further fan films thanks to cbs/paramount.

    I know - new guidelines and all that; but there are some already out there, on Youtube etc (though I guess it's questionable whether they'll remain).

    They have said that existing films can stay up. Renegades is now an original series featuring Walter as "The Admiral" and Nichelle as Admiral Jemison.
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    iconians wrote: »
    I don't believe anything Al Rivera says. That's why I get my information from mentally unhinged STO forum posters with bad spelling and grammar.​​

    It's the only way to be sure.

    ---

    The thing to remember is - Geko has been around since the start of the game, in the very position he is in. Before it was even in Beta, when it was still in a conceptual phase.

    Everything you hate about this game? It's Geko's fault. He ordered it done, he allowed it to be done.
    Everything you love about this game? It's Geko's fault. He ordered it done, he allowed it to be done.

    The game is still around after all this time. Maybe, just maybe, he isn't on such a bad track after all.

    And he's forgotten to wear a tinfoil hat all that time.

    Therefore...

    Iconians.
  • kodachikunokodachikuno Member Posts: 6,020 Arc User1
    nightken wrote: »
    If anyone believes anything Geko says, then you also believe the Titanic is unsinkable and the Moon is made of hollow cheese with aliens watching and waiting for us to turn our backs so they can eat our socks.​​

    I have one question then. where do socks go? no really something causes socks to disappear never to be seen again if not aliens then what? :p

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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    This only confirms was we knew already.

    I only did the 3 main factions, so I can see their story. I enjoy their game play and methods so I kept them. The rest I have is alts. So I go to them, when I'm stuck on the 3 mains. Like waiting for the Rep timer to end. Or I just ran an FE to get the reward, but waiting for that timer so I can do it again for the next reward. Or my main is waiting for brand new missions cause they already did them all. This is when I break out the Lower Alts as I call them.

    The AOY to me isn't a faction. Its more of a Recruit. This is why I'm more reluctant to level this one up. Since after Lv10 I'm back to the same old same old. Where I was hoping for all new leveling experience. Unless they bring out the T6 Connie/Connie Refit.
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  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    claiming jem'hadar was a possible mini faction....despite the fact that cryptic is adamant about not doing the 'bad guy' factions, which in this case it would have to be because they literally couldn't be anything else
    That is a hilariously limited view on the Jem'Hadar(wow an STO forum poster with an unrealistically limited view on the world.... who would have thought!)

    As we have seen in the current storyline, The Dominion joins the Galactic Union in the future. The Dominion are not inherently evil and unable to be worked with in a friendly manner. As we saw at the end of the Iconian war, the threat of a greater evil is enough to get them to work with us.

    1. There is no evidence that the dominion joined the galactic union, its never actually stated how many of the major powers are members of it: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Galactic_Union read it. Note the 'are all present to witness the signing of the Temporal Accords; whether they are all members of the Union is unconfirmed' part. They are major powers, it stands to reason they would be present. Not inviting them could lead to a very pissed off dominion.

    2. 'Hilariously limited view?' Take your ignorant insults and belittling somewhere else. Does it need to be explained to you that the jem'hadar have literally no reason to exist beyond fighting and killing people? Its not a 'limited view' to state blatant facts. They are literally nothing more than expendable meat shields. They are as bad guy as factions get in this game, they're right up there with the romulan empire. and remember why we didn't get them? Because cryptic doesn't use the bad guys as playable factions.

    3. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Aside from the fact that the entire idea of the dominion having provided any assistance at all is a blatant retcon - as they specifically said not to come begging for help from them when the iconians showed up, because the safest way to deal with them was not to, any action would be in their best interests not ours. Remember how working with the borg against a common enemy worked out in the end? Remember how the americans sided with the chinese in WW2 against japan? Well they were shooting at each other 5 years later in korea. and that allied-soviet alliance against the germans didn't exactly end well either. The point is, fighting against a common enemy does not make you any less of a future enemy
    That's nonsense. But how about that, a mission where we fly through hoops and chase Spock's brain so the Borg don't catch it?

    Don't give them ideas. We're already half way there with that delta flight mission

    Regarding point 2 there is a DS9 episode which explains that for some Jem'hadar the only reason they fight is because the vorta control their supplies of Ketracel White - no dying no white! These rogue Jem'hadar were trying to go cold turkey to break the addiction and free off the yoke of the founders and that there is your playable Jem'hadar/dominion half of a cardie/dominion faction.

    Oh and I still remember our old exploration missions:

    First officer: Sir we are receiving a distress signal from a Borg sphere shall we set course
    PLayer: Noo its a trap
    Captain: Proceed
    First Officer: Sir its an Ambush the Borg are attacking us!
    Player: :headbutts desk in the ultimate facepalm: but still its understandable since we never finished at Starfleet academy due to having gone and shot lots of Borg instead at Vega colony.

    Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
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