I can't see the Molecular Deconstruction Beam getting used too often - as it stands, everything in PvE will be dead, via BFAW, long before for the oportunity to use the MDB presents itself.
You can always try playing on a harder difficulty level....
it would be really nice if those ships could share the skins of current century counterparts:
to be precise I have two in mind - research science vessel for temporal science ships and heavy cruiser for temporal cruisers.....
it woudl be so nice that I'd buy both temporal cruisers out of the bat :P
I doubt any of those older skins would work on these.
I'd be happy if they just provided alternate skins like they do most other ships. If there's a Veteran skin option, that would be enough for me
well seeing then not mentioning it a all and knowing cryptic I would not be much surprised if they just forgot that however you look at this between daedalus class and nautilus class there is olympic class, and between gemini and sagitarius there is whole bunch of types rolled out as "heavy cruiser" class [consisting constelation, stargazer and dakota types if memory serves well]
it would be logical to have the T6s being able to use costumes from these although if cryptic has realised that these ships were around before is a thing to see
[although I must note that saggiatrius being able to use stargazer skin pieces and nautilus having access to olympic class skins would make those ships in both variants an instant buy for me - at least as soon as I'll have nuf moniez to spare :P]
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
@pwlaughingtrendy You guys sometimes release a FAQ on a new ship release blog. Can you please add this question:
Are the T6 Temporal ships and their TOS lower tier counterparts going to receive a 2pc console synergy? Since they can wear their lower tier counterpart skin as if they are related.
Improved Polarize Hull
While this trait is slotted, activating Polarize Hull will periodically remove movement impairing effects as well as damage over time and hazard effects for the duration of the ability.
Designated Target
While this trait is slotted, and you kill a target affected by your Focused Assault ability allies within 5km of the defeated target will gain a moderate hull heal and damage boost.
Shield Overload
While this trait is slotted, activating Emergency Power to Shields will also apply a massive boost to Damage Resistance and Shield Hardness. However, the effectiveness of this boost will drop off overtime.
Retaliation
While this trait is slotted, and you suffer a critical hit you will gain a boost to your weapon damage and critical hit chance. This buff stacks up to 3 times.
...So, how will Romulan Republic and KDF captains access these Ship Traits? Because the one-captain-at-a-time lock box prizes kinda sucked...
Improved Polarize Hull
While this trait is slotted, activating Polarize Hull will periodically remove movement impairing effects as well as damage over time and hazard effects for the duration of the ability.
Designated Target
While this trait is slotted, and you kill a target affected by your Focused Assault ability allies within 5km of the defeated target will gain a moderate hull heal and damage boost.
Shield Overload
While this trait is slotted, activating Emergency Power to Shields will also apply a massive boost to Damage Resistance and Shield Hardness. However, the effectiveness of this boost will drop off overtime.
Retaliation
While this trait is slotted, and you suffer a critical hit you will gain a boost to your weapon damage and critical hit chance. This buff stacks up to 3 times.
...So, how will Romulan Republic and KDF captains access these Ship Traits? Because the one-captain-at-a-time lock box prizes kinda sucked...
They won't? Really, this happens every time a standalone Fed ship is released... this time it's just more noticable because there are so many being released all at once; the Delta Ops Pack had the same sort of imbalance (which really sucked because at that point there weren't even enough T6 Ships available to fill KDF/Rom Starship Trait slots). It's not the direction I'd like, but it's the one they've chosen... at least the "faction agnostic" ships will be capable of granting their Starship Traits to any character that could benefit from them.
With each passing day I wonder if I stepped into an alternate reality. The Cubs win the world series. Donald Trump is President. Britain leaves the EU. STO gets a dedicated PvP season. Engineers are "out of control" in STO.
it would be really nice if those ships could share the skins of current century counterparts:
to be precise I have two in mind - research science vessel for temporal science ships and heavy cruiser for temporal cruisers.....
it woudl be so nice that I'd buy both temporal cruisers out of the bat :P
I doubt any of those older skins would work on these.
I'd be happy if they just provided alternate skins like they do most other ships. If there's a Veteran skin option, that would be enough for me
well seeing then not mentioning it a all and knowing cryptic I would not be much surprised if they just forgot that however you look at this between daedalus class and nautilus class there is olympic class, and between gemini and sagitarius there is whole bunch of types rolled out as "heavy cruiser" class [consisting constelation, stargazer and dakota types if memory serves well]
it would be logical to have the T6s being able to use costumes from these although if cryptic has realised that these ships were around before is a thing to see
[although I must note that saggiatrius being able to use stargazer skin pieces and nautilus having access to olympic class skins would make those ships in both variants an instant buy for me - at least as soon as I'll have nuf moniez to spare :P]
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
except gemini, constelation/stargazer/dakota, saggitarius are clearly same "line" of ships
same goes fo daedalus, olympic[and it subclasses] and nautilus
if cryptic remembered that while developping those ships it would be no problem for them to make those parts interchangeable - although I am afraid that cryptic HAS forgotten that olypmic class and constelation class exist or ar obvious middleground between 23rd century and 26th in their correspondive ship faimilies
and you have no idea how long I am waiting for a proper T6 ship using these hulls :P
it would be really nice if those ships could share the skins of current century counterparts:
to be precise I have two in mind - research science vessel for temporal science ships and heavy cruiser for temporal cruisers.....
it woudl be so nice that I'd buy both temporal cruisers out of the bat :P
I doubt any of those older skins would work on these.
I'd be happy if they just provided alternate skins like they do most other ships. If there's a Veteran skin option, that would be enough for me
well seeing then not mentioning it a all and knowing cryptic I would not be much surprised if they just forgot that however you look at this between daedalus class and nautilus class there is olympic class, and between gemini and sagitarius there is whole bunch of types rolled out as "heavy cruiser" class [consisting constelation, stargazer and dakota types if memory serves well]
it would be logical to have the T6s being able to use costumes from these although if cryptic has realised that these ships were around before is a thing to see
[although I must note that saggiatrius being able to use stargazer skin pieces and nautilus having access to olympic class skins would make those ships in both variants an instant buy for me - at least as soon as I'll have nuf moniez to spare :P]
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
except gemini, constelation/stargazer/dakota, saggitarius are clearly same "line" of ships
same goes fo daedalus, olympic[and it subclasses] and nautilus
if cryptic remembered that while developping those ships it would be no problem for them to make those parts interchangeable - although I am afraid that cryptic HAS forgotten that olypmic class and constelation class exist or ar obvious middleground between 23rd century and 26th in their correspondive ship faimilies
and you have no idea how long I am waiting for a proper T6 ship using these hulls :P
I don't think they forgot anything, I think the problem is how compatible the designs actually are, even if they are from the same line. If the ship sizes diverge greatly, you can't mix & match sensibly anymore. If the skeletons are very different, it won't work either.
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it would be really nice if those ships could share the skins of current century counterparts:
to be precise I have two in mind - research science vessel for temporal science ships and heavy cruiser for temporal cruisers.....
it woudl be so nice that I'd buy both temporal cruisers out of the bat :P
I doubt any of those older skins would work on these.
I'd be happy if they just provided alternate skins like they do most other ships. If there's a Veteran skin option, that would be enough for me
well seeing then not mentioning it a all and knowing cryptic I would not be much surprised if they just forgot that however you look at this between daedalus class and nautilus class there is olympic class, and between gemini and sagitarius there is whole bunch of types rolled out as "heavy cruiser" class [consisting constelation, stargazer and dakota types if memory serves well]
it would be logical to have the T6s being able to use costumes from these although if cryptic has realised that these ships were around before is a thing to see
[although I must note that saggiatrius being able to use stargazer skin pieces and nautilus having access to olympic class skins would make those ships in both variants an instant buy for me - at least as soon as I'll have nuf moniez to spare :P]
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
except gemini, constelation/stargazer/dakota, saggitarius are clearly same "line" of ships
same goes fo daedalus, olympic[and it subclasses] and nautilus
if cryptic remembered that while developping those ships it would be no problem for them to make those parts interchangeable - although I am afraid that cryptic HAS forgotten that olypmic class and constelation class exist or ar obvious middleground between 23rd century and 26th in their correspondive ship faimilies
and you have no idea how long I am waiting for a proper T6 ship using these hulls :P
I don't think they forgot anything, I think the problem is how compatible the designs actually are, even if they are from the same line. If the ship sizes diverge greatly, you can't mix & match sensibly anymore. If the skeletons are very different, it won't work either.
Yep, this is what I was trying to get at. A ship artist could weigh in here and explain in more detail, but short of that this admittedly speculative explanation is as close as we'll get.
it would be really nice if those ships could share the skins of current century counterparts:
to be precise I have two in mind - research science vessel for temporal science ships and heavy cruiser for temporal cruisers.....
it woudl be so nice that I'd buy both temporal cruisers out of the bat :P
I doubt any of those older skins would work on these.
I'd be happy if they just provided alternate skins like they do most other ships. If there's a Veteran skin option, that would be enough for me
well seeing then not mentioning it a all and knowing cryptic I would not be much surprised if they just forgot that however you look at this between daedalus class and nautilus class there is olympic class, and between gemini and sagitarius there is whole bunch of types rolled out as "heavy cruiser" class [consisting constelation, stargazer and dakota types if memory serves well]
it would be logical to have the T6s being able to use costumes from these although if cryptic has realised that these ships were around before is a thing to see
[although I must note that saggiatrius being able to use stargazer skin pieces and nautilus having access to olympic class skins would make those ships in both variants an instant buy for me - at least as soon as I'll have nuf moniez to spare :P]
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
except gemini, constelation/stargazer/dakota, saggitarius are clearly same "line" of ships
same goes fo daedalus, olympic[and it subclasses] and nautilus
if cryptic remembered that while developping those ships it would be no problem for them to make those parts interchangeable - although I am afraid that cryptic HAS forgotten that olypmic class and constelation class exist or ar obvious middleground between 23rd century and 26th in their correspondive ship faimilies
and you have no idea how long I am waiting for a proper T6 ship using these hulls :P
I don't think they forgot anything, I think the problem is how compatible the designs actually are, even if they are from the same line. If the ship sizes diverge greatly, you can't mix & match sensibly anymore. If the skeletons are very different, it won't work either.
Yep, this is what I was trying to get at. A ship artist could weigh in here and explain in more detail, but short of that this admittedly speculative explanation is as close as we'll get.
Looks like the parts will indeed not be interchangeable. (Which I do not find all that surprising, it would look weird even if they were technically compatible).
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Really not a fan of the way these look. Most look like more nacelles than ship. The Saucers are wafer thin. They just dont look functional for an actual crew. The Temporal BC looks like a spatula from the side.
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
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I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
All signs point to 'no'. Simply because, as the devs have stated time and again, most recently on the latest Tribbles in Ecstacy Podcast that the Klingon side doesn't have enough players and so doesn't make money for them to make doing things like that worthwhile. It's a similar situation for the Romulans.
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
All signs point to 'no'. Simply because, as the devs have stated time and again, most recently on the latest Tribbles in Ecstacy Podcast that the Klingon side doesn't have enough players and so doesn't make money for them to make doing things like that worthwhile. It's a similar situation for the Romulans.
Not to mention that the Romulans have already a "Romulans only" expansion back when they were first introduced.
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
All signs point to 'no'. Simply because, as the devs have stated time and again, most recently on the latest Tribbles in Ecstacy Podcast that the Klingon side doesn't have enough players and so doesn't make money for them to make doing things like that worthwhile. It's a similar situation for the Romulans.
Not to mention that the Romulans have already a "Romulans only" expansion back when they were first introduced.
Well, I certainly am not about to poke that hornet's nest.
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
All signs point to 'no'. Simply because, as the devs have stated time and again, most recently on the latest Tribbles in Ecstacy Podcast that the Klingon side doesn't have enough players and so doesn't make money for them to make doing things like that worthwhile. It's a similar situation for the Romulans.
Not to mention that the Romulans have already a "Romulans only" expansion back when they were first introduced.
They kinda shared it with the Klingons... but the Klingon stuff was barely mentioned in the news releases. "Btw, we also added missions for KDF to play between 1 and 20".
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
It's actually not just a "signs point to no", it's just plain flat out NO. Zero said it won't happen, and they already have the next 2+ years outlined. She's basically the lead producer at this point, so she'd know. So unless the Exec Producer after Ricosa radically changes the vision and scraps everything to do it, just plain NO.
I wonder if Cryptic plans on launching a KDF only and then a Rom only expansion after AoY.
It's actually not just a "signs point to no", it's just plain flat out NO. Zero said it won't happen, and they already have the next 2+ years outlined. She's basically the lead producer at this point, so she'd know. So unless the Exec Producer after Ricosa radically changes the vision and scraps everything to do it, just plain NO.
It wouldn't be out of the question. They said that anything is possible if there was enough demand it's just that the Romulans and Klingons don't make them money. If people really wanted something like that there would have to be a /massive/ influx in Klingon and Romulan players to make them shift gears. That was pretty much stated during last weeks interview on Tribbles in Ecstacy.
In respect to the comparisons between say the Daedalus, Nautilus, and Olympic classes. I don't think a 24th/25th century ship works because both the Daedalus and the Nautilus are really small whereas the command science for teddies is much more akin to the sizes of its tier brethren
TOS battlecruiser has a Lt Cmdr Sci, but the 26th Century one only has a Lt. Guess they really don't make em like they used to.
I noticed that, too. Truly a baffling decision. Normally, the T6 version follows the overall setup of the T5 version, and just improves it. In this case, though, it's like a different ship altogether.
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You can always try playing on a harder difficulty level....
The problem is that the Daedalus/Nautilus model, like other models, has specific pieces and skins. Other ships, even if they look superficially similar, may not fit the same model and therefore the pieces (and skins) can't be easily reused. If they tried to directly port them over, they might not attach correctly or might overlap or have other cosmetic problems that are not easily resolved.
The Daedalus and the Nautilus were specifically designed to 'fit' each other and so the Nautilus can use the Daedalus skin. And vice versa, if it were allowed. But you wouldn't be able to slap on Oberth or Nova parts because the models are not close enough to fit.
Aside from that, there seems to be a limit how far Cryptic will go to allow kitbashing ships together.
You guys sometimes release a FAQ on a new ship release blog. Can you please add this question:
Are the T6 Temporal ships and their TOS lower tier counterparts going to receive a 2pc console synergy? Since they can wear their lower tier counterpart skin as if they are related.
Thank you.
...So, how will Romulan Republic and KDF captains access these Ship Traits? Because the one-captain-at-a-time lock box prizes kinda sucked...
They won't? Really, this happens every time a standalone Fed ship is released... this time it's just more noticable because there are so many being released all at once; the Delta Ops Pack had the same sort of imbalance (which really sucked because at that point there weren't even enough T6 Ships available to fill KDF/Rom Starship Trait slots). It's not the direction I'd like, but it's the one they've chosen... at least the "faction agnostic" ships will be capable of granting their Starship Traits to any character that could benefit from them.
except gemini, constelation/stargazer/dakota, saggitarius are clearly same "line" of ships
same goes fo daedalus, olympic[and it subclasses] and nautilus
if cryptic remembered that while developping those ships it would be no problem for them to make those parts interchangeable - although I am afraid that cryptic HAS forgotten that olypmic class and constelation class exist or ar obvious middleground between 23rd century and 26th in their correspondive ship faimilies
and you have no idea how long I am waiting for a proper T6 ship using these hulls :P
I don't think they forgot anything, I think the problem is how compatible the designs actually are, even if they are from the same line. If the ship sizes diverge greatly, you can't mix & match sensibly anymore. If the skeletons are very different, it won't work either.
Yep, this is what I was trying to get at. A ship artist could weigh in here and explain in more detail, but short of that this admittedly speculative explanation is as close as we'll get.
Looks like the parts will indeed not be interchangeable. (Which I do not find all that surprising, it would look weird even if they were technically compatible).
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All signs point to 'no'. Simply because, as the devs have stated time and again, most recently on the latest Tribbles in Ecstacy Podcast that the Klingon side doesn't have enough players and so doesn't make money for them to make doing things like that worthwhile. It's a similar situation for the Romulans.
Not to mention that the Romulans have already a "Romulans only" expansion back when they were first introduced.
Well, I certainly am not about to poke that hornet's nest.
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It's actually not just a "signs point to no", it's just plain flat out NO. Zero said it won't happen, and they already have the next 2+ years outlined. She's basically the lead producer at this point, so she'd know. So unless the Exec Producer after Ricosa radically changes the vision and scraps everything to do it, just plain NO.
If the TOS Connie is any indication, no. At least not for the 23rd century ships.
As for the 26th century ships, we'll just have to wait and see.
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It wouldn't be out of the question. They said that anything is possible if there was enough demand it's just that the Romulans and Klingons don't make them money. If people really wanted something like that there would have to be a /massive/ influx in Klingon and Romulan players to make them shift gears. That was pretty much stated during last weeks interview on Tribbles in Ecstacy.
I noticed that, too. Truly a baffling decision. Normally, the T6 version follows the overall setup of the T5 version, and just improves it. In this case, though, it's like a different ship altogether.