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captainkrud1960
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Will we ever get a new Cardassian faction that was being talked about when the Romulans came out? They could make the story similar to the Romulan Republic storyline in a sense that you're rebuilding the Cardassian Union, but instead of allying with the Federation or the Klingons, you could have a choice of building up the Cardassian Union as a democratic state like it is played out to be in the game and novels, or the writers could make a complete U-turn and let you side with the True Way.
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1) When, and
2) What "type" of Cardassians?
Regarding #1, I think sooner rather than later. MMOs cycle between acquisition and retention strategies. Acquisition strategies are intended to bring new players in, and nothing does that better than a new faction. Retention strategies are intended to keep existing players around with new end game content. The last expansion, Delta Rising, was a retention strategy, so the next expansion will probably be another acquisition.
Regarding #2, it is pretty likely the Cardassians we get will be some Cardassian version of the Romulan Republic, not the classic Cardassian military from the show. Personally, I have mixed feelings about this. One the one hand, when I play a faction, I want to play that faction as it was presented in the shows. And before someone says it, I know not all Cardassians were part of the hard core military. True enough. But guess what? Not all Federation citizens were part of Starfleet. And yet, the Starfleet faction we have in this game is *still* modeled after the military we saw presented in the show. So, IMO, it is a contradiction of logic to model one faction after it's military arm we saw presented in the show, but then refuse to do that with another.
On the other hand, I get Cryptic not wanting to have us playing the "bad guy". I also get them wanting to give themselves more creative freedom by being able to break away from what people are familiar with and tell their own story. In the end, I will probably feel like I do about my Romulan Republic character. I'm not truly satisfied with it, but it's good enough to have some fun with.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
1)That would be a major TRIBBLE slap in the face of Romulan/Reman players if the spoonheads got a full faction
2)It won't happen because of their precious red v blue mindset
Bet its nice and exciting and all but only when it’s new. I mean given past experience we would get a dozen new missions and ships and some new tailor stuff but that’s it. Sorry but that’s simply nothing compared to all the effort it takes to push a toon to endgame not to mention to make it handle endgame well.
As somebody who did this nine times over again I think the new stuff coming with a new faction would simply not be enough for me to go for it.
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I think though they might add Cardassian as a new race in the Creator Character selection in the future, like Talaxian in DR.
obviously this will also involve account wide rewards.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
The easiest thing might just be to offer a Cardassian package via the C-Store: playable Cardassian for any Faction, Cardassian BOFFs, T1-T5 ships, and costumes.
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The problem though, is that the Cardassians (if they were released as a faction, or mini faction) is that they'd merely be a complete repeat of what we already have. Cryptic seemingly cannot support two factions, let alone three, let alone four. The Federation faction is always going to be their biggest contender, and rightly so.
Unless Cryptic can do something truly unique and clever/different with Cardassians (I'm not convinced that they can) then quite honestly, I'd rather just not have them, or, at the very least, throw a Cardassian bundle into the c-store for use within the other factions.
One thing is almost certain here, if the Cardassians are released, they'll have all the new toys for a short while, and there will be a bunch of promises following them, and then they'll hit a brick wall and we'll all see Cryptic going back to focus on the Federation. At this point in the game, I think there's too much involved in existing content that would require too much editing to warrant the release of another playable faction.
I'm content with that, actually, I probably don't care; I haven't logged in for a month or two, but if Cryptic want a 4th faction to take off, they need to do something different, and they're not really capable I don't think, they'll just release a slight tweak of what they already have, and then break some stuff and throw everyone into termoil. I got sucked in with the Romulan release, I wont be going the same with Cardassians.
Aye this old dusty topic , youd think they would get tired of posting this felgarcarb
It's not that hard to fill in the blanks, and the structure is already in place. This obviously will take work, but could be tied into an expansion and could be done.
And heck, bring Odo back for some voice acting!
Will it? No clue. Could it? Absolutely.
Now the problems with all of this as I see it.
I love the Romulan faction, I cannot stand the Romulan kdf/fed side factions. I think it’s just dumb. I never bought the one thing that I heard was that it is because of “technical reasons”. That to me is just nonsense and for me it runs along the same tired excuse that I have heard from many a mmo “well the guys who originally did the game left so we got these new guys who don’t know the code and do not want to mess anything up by playing around with it.”
It always seems like a cop out excuse to me.
A Cardassian faction on its own without this fed/kdf attachment I think would be an asset to the game, otherwise it would end up being a Romulan aligned faction with a different shade of paint on it.
So if the developers are reading this I would ask without the excuses I mentioned above why is it so impossible to introduce an independent faction into the game? I’m just asking out of sheer curiosity because I am no developer and do admit that perhaps there are elements outside what I have mentioned at play that prevents this.
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Do you have any references to this? For my own amusement
That's true, they did say that part about shooting themselves in the foot. And guess what else they said at Vegas in 2014? That a Cardassian faction is inevitable. It's only a matter of time. So yeah, they definitely WILL make one, and there is one very simple reason: Money. They want to sell people all those ships.
As far as the Galor, they are just going to give the lockbox version something special that the standard version doesn't get, and wash their hands of that little situation. No, it won't be enough for *some* people. But that doesn't matter. Do you know why? Because they will make MORE money by doing the faction and selling all of those ships than they might potentially lose from the comparatively few people who might quit over the issue.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I really really really really really really really really really really really hope whoever said that was talkin out their TRIBBLE and it never happens.
Wishing has nothing to do with it. A new faction means lots of new ships to sell, and Cryptic is a business. But the good news is, if you don't want to play a Cardie, no one will make you. Aren't you glad you have free will?
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Like what? How many people are wanting to get an old T5 lockbox ship these days? The only reason to get the Galor is to have access to Spiral Wave Disruptor beam arrays. That's really it. 4 off the ship automatically, and the ability to buy more with Dilithium.
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It's bad enough the KDF and Romulans don't even get half the attention they deserve, with the romulans not even being a full faction of their own.
Until both of those two are on absolutely "equal" footing to the Federation, new factions are unjustifiable.
That is a completely valid opinion. But the simple fact is, these kind of decisions aren't made based on whether the forum folks approve or not. I refer you back to my earlier point:
If they decide it's time to do another acquisition strategy, and decide that a new faction is the best way to do it, it doesn't matter whether you think the KDF/ROMs should get attention first. That's simply not how it works.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
KDF: 2 tacs, 2 engs, 3 scis
KDF Roms: 3 tacs, 1 eng, 1 scis
FED: 2 tacs, 1 eng, 2 scis
TOS: 1 tac
all on T5 rep (up to temporal)
all have mastered Intel tree (and some more specs Points)
highest DPS: 60.982