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  • jade1280jade1280 Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    I dident bother doing into the breach so far my life has not exploded.
  • nikeixnikeix Member Posts: 3,972 Arc User
    If I have any complaint I wish the event window was a little longer or the for a 21 day even the number of runs needed was only 10. I feel like the 2/3rds participation is a little high and would be more comfortable with daily runs equal to 1/2 the event window.
  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    weekend events I don't take too much notice of, if I happen to passively benefit from them at any time then good but I don't actively seek to gain from them when they come around by say actively saving all of my upgrading for upgrade weekends or crafting for crafting weekends and so on.
    as you say though even without the weekend events there are still a lot of major events and at times it seems like we just tumble from one event to another in an endless stream of events that leave you very little time for anything else.
    having said that I must admit I really enjoy these events and even with this current breach event though I was a little unsure to start with now I had played through for the first few times I have come to enjoy the event more and I am well on track to get the main event award with my 6 characters though I may not be able to get all of the bonus days as well as due to time constraints I have had to miss the odd day on some of my characters and will need some of the bonus days to complete the main award on them.
    overall I would say keep it coming cryptic, anything that stops players becoming bored with the game has got to be good IMO but to players I will say you do not have to do these events if you feel you cant keep up and would rather just do some regular stuff instead.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    Doing this event with 3 instead of 9 toons was one of the best decisions I ever made in STO. Won’t stop me to make an even better decision next time this event turns up.
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  • aliguanaaliguana Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    I feel a bit "emperor's new clothes" over this.

    I don't mind grinding 14 days for a Krenim Science Ship. fab. or the 20-odd days for my Lobster. Amazing ship.

    However, put in the same amount of grind for an Admiralty Card? no. I can just imagine a Cryptic/PW meeting, that went like this:

    "So you're saying people will grind for an Admiralty card?"
    "Sure!!! Imagine, we don't have to design new ships anymore, no more model building, no more weeks of work! Just get the intern in marketing to draw a little picture of a ship, we'll put some stats on it, call it an Admiralty card, and they'll grind for it as if it was a T6 ship! woop!"

    seriously though, there is a time/reward ratio here. I'll put in the time if I get a decent reward.

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    aliguana wrote: »
    I feel a bit "emperor's new clothes" over this.

    I don't mind grinding 14 days for a Krenim Science Ship. fab. or the 20-odd days for my Lobster. Amazing ship.

    However, put in the same amount of grind for an Admiralty Card? no. I can just imagine a Cryptic/PW meeting, that went like this:

    "So you're saying people will grind for an Admiralty card?"
    "Sure!!! Imagine, we don't have to design new ships anymore, no more model building, no more weeks of work! Just get the intern in marketing to draw a little picture of a ship, we'll put some stats on it, call it an Admiralty card, and they'll grind for it as if it was a T6 ship! woop!"

    seriously though, there is a time/reward ratio here. I'll put in the time if I get a decent reward.

    its not just an Admiralty card, there is also the 50k dil and marks to sweeten the deal, as I said in another thread - I am pretty sure if they removed the dil & marks from the reward you would find that most players would not bother with this event at all even if they made the card an account unlock.
    sure some players who have 30 or more characters might but most players with under 10 characters would probably not think it worth the bother.
    at the end of the day its the dil that makes it worth the bother for most players.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • staq16staq16 Member Posts: 1,181 Arc User
    I can't see how the Dil would be the big appeal.

    Here's the thing - if it's Dil you're after, the running the mission 14 times will get you, what, approx 60K dil? Which is about $2 worth these days... for over 3 hours of replaying the same mission. Oh, and it goes against a refining cap which is already pretty full if you're using DOffing and/or Admiralty.

    So the worthwhile rewards are things you can't buy - marks and the Admiralty card. But as others said, it's a lot of grind for a card. Personally I'll do it for one Fed alt as he's rather light on ships and can use the marks, but that's all.

    Truth be told, after years of these events I have got rather cynical about these "must-have" rewards; the only past one I still use at all is the 2014 Emergency Conn Hologram. Hence I probably won't ever bother trying to do an event on all alts again...

  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    The 50k Dil does not really interest me all that much. Sure it makes up for some of the days when I do not have the time to grind 8k Dil per toon, but they all have a decent stockpile.

    The marks are nice I suppose. But I have no need for 500 fleet marks since I am not in a fleet. The 250 marks of choice is not a huge amount of marks, it's not too difficult to simply play other queued missions to get that much. On normal, I think Into the Breach nets you around 160 - 190 marks depending on achieved optionals.

    Only the Admiralty Card is of interest to me because I do not have that many ships for the Admiralty System compared to some other players. Though it is not like I have the bare minimum of ships on my level 60 captains. Basically I have the ships from the Delta Rising Ops pack, the T3 Vandal Destroyer, T5 B'rel Retrofit BoP, T6 Kor BoP and all the event ships beginning with the 2014 Anniversary DSD.

    Also, since it is just an Admiralty Card, I do not need to buy ship / shipyard slots for all my toons... something I need to do if I want to buy more ships since my slots are nearly filled up.

  • kyrrokkyrrok Member Posts: 1,352 Arc User
    This admiralty ship grind was way too much of a grind for me to even consider being worthwhile.
  • trejgontrejgon Member Posts: 323 Arc User
    aliguana wrote: »
    I feel a bit "emperor's new clothes" over this.

    I don't mind grinding 14 days for a Krenim Science Ship. fab. or the 20-odd days for my Lobster. Amazing ship.

    However, put in the same amount of grind for an Admiralty Card? no. I can just imagine a Cryptic/PW meeting, that went like this:

    "So you're saying people will grind for an Admiralty card?"
    "Sure!!! Imagine, we don't have to design new ships anymore, no more model building, no more weeks of work! Just get the intern in marketing to draw a little picture of a ship, we'll put some stats on it, call it an Admiralty card, and they'll grind for it as if it was a T6 ship! woop!"

    seriously though, there is a time/reward ratio here. I'll put in the time if I get a decent reward.

    I'm doing it mostly for dilith and marks tbh....

    but then started making dailies with long time no touched rommie toon cause her admirality is in realy bad state and the card would help :P

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    The 50k Dil does not really interest me all that much. Sure it makes up for some of the days when I do not have the time to grind 8k Dil per toon, but they all have a decent stockpile.

    The marks are nice I suppose. But I have no need for 500 fleet marks since I am not in a fleet. The 250 marks of choice is not a huge amount of marks, it's not too difficult to simply play other queued missions to get that much. On normal, I think Into the Breach nets you around 160 - 190 marks depending on achieved optionals.

    Only the Admiralty Card is of interest to me because I do not have that many ships for the Admiralty System compared to some other players. Though it is not like I have the bare minimum of ships on my level 60 captains. Basically I have the ships from the Delta Rising Ops pack, the T3 Vandal Destroyer, T5 B'rel Retrofit BoP, T6 Kor BoP and all the event ships beginning with the 2014 Anniversary DSD.

    Also, since it is just an Admiralty Card, I do not need to buy ship / shipyard slots for all my toons... something I need to do if I want to buy more ships since my slots are nearly filled up.
    trejgon wrote: »
    aliguana wrote: »
    I feel a bit "emperor's new clothes" over this.

    I don't mind grinding 14 days for a Krenim Science Ship. fab. or the 20-odd days for my Lobster. Amazing ship.

    However, put in the same amount of grind for an Admiralty Card? no. I can just imagine a Cryptic/PW meeting, that went like this:

    "So you're saying people will grind for an Admiralty card?"
    "Sure!!! Imagine, we don't have to design new ships anymore, no more model building, no more weeks of work! Just get the intern in marketing to draw a little picture of a ship, we'll put some stats on it, call it an Admiralty card, and they'll grind for it as if it was a T6 ship! woop!"

    seriously though, there is a time/reward ratio here. I'll put in the time if I get a decent reward.

    I'm doing it mostly for dilith and marks tbh....

    but then started making dailies with long time no touched rommie toon cause her admirality is in realy bad state and the card would help :P

    and that's how cryptic pulls in the biggest number of players, by making the reward a 4 pronged affair they can be sure most will play on as many characters as they want to or can do, if players don't want the dilithium they might want the Admiralty card and if they don't want the card the might want the marks.
    card, marks, dil or fleet marks payers are bound to want one or more of these things and they are bound to want them on at least one character probably more.
    cryptic certainly know how to boost their metrics.
    any one of these things doesn't always pull in the most players but put them all together as a package deal and you have a sure winner.
    this is why they will probably never make the shiny's account unlocked, too much of a dent in their potential metrics.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • lexusk19lexusk19 Member Posts: 1,415 Arc User
    I had no interest in the reward so im letting this event pass by. I feel fine. :P
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  • kmfrye2001kmfrye2001 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    Nobody's forcing you to play every event. If you want a break, take a break.

    Yup. I'm only playing on three chars. The others can do without.
  • hugin1205hugin1205 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    I have 17 characters and so far participated in every event - this is the first that I don't do.
    Well - I tried the revamped Mission twice. It's still TRIBBLE. Without the trench run at first it would be less annoying - but still not a great Mission.
    I was looking Forward to getting the Dil. But I realized that I mostly only log on, do dailies, log off again. So not getting the Dil isn't a big Thing.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    hugin1205 wrote: »
    I have 17 characters and so far participated in every event - this is the first that I don't do.
    Well - I tried the revamped Mission twice. It's still TRIBBLE. Without the trench run at first it would be less annoying - but still not a great Mission.
    I was looking Forward to getting the Dil. But I realized that I mostly only log on, do dailies, log off again. So not getting the Dil isn't a big Thing.

    I was apprehensive over whether I would stay the course but I thought I would give it go, overall its no worse then the mirror event once you get into it.
    I can understand not wanting to do it with all 17 of your characters but I have had no problem managing it with my 6 though due to time I cant do anything else while this is going on so I guess I wont be greatly better off then yourself when its over but that's just a matter of personal choice, I would rather do events like this as a change from the norm rather then just do the same thing as I do every other day for the few weeks its running.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,014 Arc User
    It's a nice way of getting marks to finish projects
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    • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
      edited March 2016
      breach grind is GRIND

      i started out enthusiastically on 8 characters, but after 1 weeks play at ~3 hours a day [dependant on group quality] its just too much.. pewpew pewpew zzz zzz pewpew zzz zzz grrrr pewpew zzz grrr!! i'm almost at the point of role playing a mind wipe, and pretending the event does not exist :expressionless:

      i shall take a few days out, play some swtor, and then see if i feel like charging, once again, into the breach, towards the end of the week.​​
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    • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
      Emergency power to Breach event.

      I'm doing it only on 3 toons. And I still think it's a very fine STF. I absolutely love the map. Just in the recent days was thinking about reinstall Descent. Well, no need thanks to this queue...
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    • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,607 Arc User
      lexusk19 wrote: »
      I had no interest in the reward so im letting this event pass by. I feel fine. :P

      Seriously. I did The Breach once, said "%$^& this &^%$" and never looked back. I feel just fine about it.
    • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,607 Arc User
      qziqza wrote: »
      breach grind is GRIND
      ...

      I shall take a few days out, play some swtor, and then see if i feel like charging, once again, into the breach, towards the end of the week.​​

      How is SWTOR these days? I bailed right after the 4.0 upgrade...

    • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
      edited March 2016
      qziqza wrote: »
      breach grind is GRIND
      ...

      I shall take a few days out, play some swtor, and then see if i feel like charging, once again, into the breach, towards the end of the week.​​

      How is SWTOR these days? I bailed right after the 4.0 upgrade...

      It's about as much fun as SWG after that 'wonderful' patch.
    • qziqzaqziqza Member Posts: 1,044 Arc User
      edited March 2016
      *start of, a little off topic*

      qziqza wrote: »
      breach grind is GRIND
      ...

      I shall take a few days out, play some swtor, and then see if i feel like charging, once again, into the breach, towards the end of the week.

      How is SWTOR these days? I bailed right after the 4.0 upgrade...

      im loving it at the moment, i know there is mixed feelings on the story chapters.. but the quality is amazing, and characters i thought were annoying are actually just really well written, and that initial response is starting to burn away with the more i understand them. oh and i grabbed the most awesome of mounts this morning...

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      also loving that i can run the [heroic +2] solo if none of my friends are in game.. great way to gear up and also just stick to the story line as you level, which is nice.. my memory is pants and i used to loose track, so i've really enjoyed a story refresh with some new characters.


      *end of, a little off topic*


      hopefully this will refresh me enough to come back and run at least 2 characters through the breach grind lol​​
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    • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
      I dare you to find a 2 week period that doesn't have some sort of event going on. Cryptic is addicted to them to prop up player numbers.
      Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
    • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
      Winter event, followed by the Anniversary event and going directly into the Breach event. And that is not to mention all the smaller events in between, there was a mirror event mixed in there somewhere and all the weekend events scattered throughout the entire time.

      "Keeping us busy" at this point, is an understatement. I am more resilient to burnout than most, able to grind for hours at a time, reaping the fruits of my labors with joy and pride. But this, this event fatigue is starting to take its toll, more than starting in fact, more like it is taken hold and begun to create resentment.

      I can hardly see any reprieve either as soon the spring event will come and with it a new string of tasks to take up.

      Honestly I have come to know this as a punishment, a punishment that has a reward attached to it. It is bittersweet, really. I have gotten much dilithium ore, much marks, a ship and with it an admiralty card, another admiralty card and tons of experience. What more could a player ask for? On the other hand, I have had to play innumerable hours, days even, just to keep up, often depriving myself of the things that make life interesting, friends, family, the sun on my back, the wind on my face.

      Are the admiralty ships really worth sacrificing life itself? To what end? More dilithium? More energy credits? And for what? So that I can say I am wealthy in-game?

      You have backed me into a corner Cryptic, you have backed us ALL into a corner. I am soon to break. And with all my resiliency, imagine all those who are already broken.... What have YOU lost Cryptic? What you think that the players are the only ones to suffer these events? No, I think not. You too, Cryptic, have paid a price.

      When will this madness end? Casualties on both sides are high right now. Can we have some peace soon? A respite, a ceasefire even? Even for just a little bit? A time to let our wounds heal so that we can again later pick up our keyboards and with everything we have, fight again?

      this is why i havent even bothered with the most recent event, into the breach, for one it offers no real reward as if money ever had a hold on me. a mere bribe attempt aside, it offers no other incentives, so thats that. there will be another in a few months from now with the summer event on risa. what the ep decides to do on his schedule for sto, i guess we will find out when it happens.

      when DR hit, i started losing interest in the game because of the grind to level 60, that wont ever change. its effected the rest of my decisions on sto accordingly to playing in a far more casual setting than in the past, it isnt just events, but a few choices made that has distanced me from the game i used to play quite a lot of pre-f2p.
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    • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
      edited March 2016
      I dare you to find a 2 week period that doesn't have some sort of event going on. Cryptic is addicted to them to prop up player numbers.

      these events that run every 2 weeks are weekend events that were created to replace the hourly events that used to run with a different event every hour of the day and every day of the week so by that measure there is actually less time during the year that events are running now then there were when the hourly events were active.
      players should not really include the weekend events as actual events in the same way that winter, summer, anniversary, mirror, crystalline and now breach are events, they are really 2 completely different things, players should omit the weekend events entirely when they talk about events like breach, summer and so on in the same way they used to omit the fact that hourly events were always running 24 hours a day for 365 day a year.
      personally I don't even think of these weekend affairs as events full stop they are just something that happens from time to time I may benefit from or I may not depending on what I happen to be doing at the time and if I don't benefit from one I am sure to benefit from another further down the line so they are not a big deal like the real events like mirror or winter are where if I miss one I will have no way of getting the same prize at a future time.
      anyway in a typical year cryptic run 3 seasonal events summer, winter and anniversary that run for a total of about 135 days and 2 smaller events like mirror and crystalline that run for a total of about 42 days making 177 days these events are active that leaves 188 days in the year these events are not running.
      whether breach is extra to the others or to replace another or just a one off event is yet to be seen.
      I have not included the delta event as yet again this is totally different to the normal events and also we have yet to see how often or if ever the delta event will be repeated.

      having said all that I can see where you are coming from, it certainly seems sometimes we go strait from one event into another and personally I think its great.
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      When I think about everything we've been through together,

      maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

       and if that journey takes a little longer,

      so we can do something we all believe in,

       I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

    • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
      personally I don't even think of these weekend affairs as events full stop they are just something that happens from time to time

      Same here. Some of them were proper events way back when you could bank mark boxes to open during mark weekend, then convert to dil during dil weekend, and so on. All those interesting strategies were "fixed" ages ago, the weekends reduced to meaningless global bonuses that require no thought whatsoever. So I give them no thought whatsoever.

      Although I suppose the upgrade weekend still does influence gameplay...for those who upgrade things.
    • sussethraisussethrai Member Posts: 137 Arc User
      Meh. I run Breach occasionally when a friend requests someone to make up their team, otherwise I can take it or leave it. In fact, the last 2-3 weeks I've only been on STO a few times, for less than an hour each time. The only thing I wish is that if you choose not to complete the grind for ship/card/whatever, or if life keeps you from completing it, you could turn in what you have accrued so far at the end of the event for some nominal reward. Right now, I have 3 events partly completed, that I will in all likelihood never finish, and I'd like to get some tiny payback: "Sorry, you didn't earn enough Q-tokens to get the ship, but you can turn in your tokens for dil at a 1:10 ratio."
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    • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
      sussethrai wrote: »
      Meh. I run Breach occasionally when a friend requests someone to make up their team, otherwise I can take it or leave it. In fact, the last 2-3 weeks I've only been on STO a few times, for less than an hour each time. The only thing I wish is that if you choose not to complete the grind for ship/card/whatever, or if life keeps you from completing it, you could turn in what you have accrued so far at the end of the event for some nominal reward. Right now, I have 3 events partly completed, that I will in all likelihood never finish, and I'd like to get some tiny payback: "Sorry, you didn't earn enough Q-tokens to get the ship, but you can turn in your tokens for dil at a 1:10 ratio."

      sadly for players like yourself you can only do this on breach, crystalline and mirror after you have completed the main project on each player that you want to get the extra bonus on and on winter, summer and anniversary after you have completed the main project on one character and even then only until the event ends.

      When I think about everything we've been through together,

      maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

       and if that journey takes a little longer,

      so we can do something we all believe in,

       I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

    • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
      Extra awards from these type Events - Multidimensional Transporter Device, Crystal Shard, and I would think, these Voth Operative Transmissions are good to go for the next time the appropriate Event is run. I decided last year that any extra couple of those Items I may have gathered, I would not put into the Daily Project but save to cut the grind the next time that Event rolled around.
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